>Buffy the Vampire Slayer + Angel
12 seasons
>Supernatural + Supernatural the Animation + potential spin off
13 seasons and counting
Will the next generation have a series to take up the mantle?
Both Buffy and Supernatural threads died earlier so yeah
Supernatural will be remembered for far longer than the Buffyverse if the Spinoff is successful.
Buffy has enough merits on its own, and will remain remembered. Besides, Supernatural is essentially Buffy originally geared toward a different demographic.
Not a direct comparison but Lord of the Rings remains remembered even though Harry Potter came later and had more books (and is still expanding its """canon""")
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Supernatural isn't even remembered now.
It's already currently the longest running North American fantasy show, I'm pretty sure it's remembered. It also has a strong cult following despite not reaching many viewers. Do you know the cast go on convention tours every year?
Monster hunter shows? I'm sure we'll see another one soon enough.
Jeffrey Dean Morgan still goes to conventions all over the place and he was in a handful of episodes.
>daily threads on Sup Forums
>one of the big 3 on tumblr
>>isn't even rememebred
>Grimm
>hey let's do a show like Supernatural with a bigger budget
>okay but I don't want to plan the series out
>that's fine, we'll just do whatever comes to us at the moment
So? It's not going to be in the annals of television history. EW is not going to do commemorative issues about it. They're not going to teach it in school.
There are cons about everything now and the only reason it's the longest running show is the CW clings to established fanbases like a facehugger.
Supernatural is so mediocre compared to buffy and angel even in their worse seasons. I tried watching supernatural and got really bored. Only made it to like s04e03ish. Does it get better or are they just milking it hard? I can't imagine a show still being good 12 seasons in.
>fanbases remember the shows their fans of
There is a world that exists outside of your echo chambers.
At one point Buffy may have been remembered as the better show, but now that Joss Whedon has been outed as the horrific serial rapist that he is, all of the shows dedicated fans (tumblr) have abandoned him.
Supernatural won in the end.
Buffy thread didn't die, it was active all the way to page 10
>fan base
>isn't remembered
Which is it, user?
buffy is feminist leftist garbage
supernatural is bro-tier kino
Grimm doesn't quite do it for me. Tone is somewhat different
yeah but it's not active now, is it?
Holy Jehovah, I'd eat Buffy's muffy all day long.
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Active in our hearts
> It's not going to be in the annals of television history
If it continues for another 5 seasons and hold its current record, it will at least be remembered for that record
>EW is not going to do commemorative issues about it
why would they when it's still going?
I ship the hell out of this.
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Tim Curry is mah nigga
Supernatural was in this level of established camp and fun that I honestly wouldn't even cared if Supernatural existed for 30 years and Sam and Dean did the same stuff until they were gray and old, hunting their own ghosts.
ABSOLUTE COMFY
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>you're never going to have fun with these guys
dont remind me user. just assemble your own team free will with your buddies
>one of the big 3 on tumblr
what are the other 2?
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dont summon that can of worms in here. this is comfy tv monster hunting, demon slaying
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Supernatural is leftist too dumbass
I think Dr Who and Shercock
I wonder how jealous Joss is that Supernatural gets to have a Scooby Doo episode.
will buffy ever cameo in supernatural is the real question
Buffy>>Supernatural>Angel
They dropped the ball not having her play Eve
Maybe Buffy will be their long lost hunter relative in an alternate universe.
>Buffy the Vampire Slayer
5 > 2, 7 > 6 > 1, 3, 4
>Angel
4 (pre-Jasmine reveal) > 5 > 3 > 1, 2, 4 (Jasmine and post Jasmine)
>Supernatural
4 > 5, 3 > 2, 1, 6 (Appointment in Samarra and after), 12 > 11, 7, 8, 6 (first half) >> 9, 10
Why eve though? it's best to have her appear as a hunter
Because I miss evil Buffy
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this is now an Angel thread.
Angel>most tv shows
Assuming the show wasnt canceled and disregarding the comics, what direction do you think they would have taken?
Why didn't they just blow Fred's head off when she was suffering to birth Illirya? at a certain point it was obvious that they couldn't have saved her, so killing her at that time would have saved Fred from the pain, and prevented Illirya from rising up.
Supernatural 1-5 > Angel >= Buffy >> the rest of Supernatural
YES thank you for helping me to remember who this girl looked like in the porn I just watched with a little more tan to her.
>Supernatural the Animation
well if you count that in, Buffy had a motion comic season 8.
>Buffy the Vampire Slayer
>5 > 2, 7 > 6 > 1, 3, 4
gonna assume this is ironic
It would have had some similarities to the comics, but not a whole lot. They always planned to have Fred resurface in season 6, it'd probably be a 'back to basics' arc for Angel, rediscovering his roots as a vigilante working low budget. Hard to say beyond that.
>Buffy
5 > 3 > 2=4=6 > 1 > 7
They didn't know exactly what was going on, and they really thought they could do something to the very end. Plus I think if anyone tried to do anything Wesley would have lost his shit. He wasn't being rational about it.
It does seem like they wouldn't want a time-controlling hyper demon running around, but the idea was that it was Fred and she meant too much.
More like
3 > 5,4 >> 2 > 1 >>>> 6 >>>>>>>>>> 7
1 and 4 are the most underrated seasons of the show. 4 is next level comfy and no one appreciates that because the big bad was shitty.
If you forget they had to bind her powers and she was significantly nerfed. Even Hamilton by the end of the show was able to outmatch her.
no probs
guess i'll stop counting it then
never found the appeal/hype of season 3, sorry. on the other hand, i was in my early adulthood when i watched season 6 and my first job was slinging burgers before i finally got to work as my actual profession so yeah, i kinda understood that season's direction
>a 'back to basics' arc for Angel, rediscovering his roots as a vigilante working low budget
they literally just started taking over the LA branch of Wolfram & Hart
this is pretty much my taste. right on, niggadfriend.
And Angel was only able to beat him after drinking his blood, the blood of, "The Wolf, the Ram, and the Hart," as Hamilton put it.
I didn't forget? I don't know what this has to do with what I said.
Yes this ended up happening, but no one planned it and it took them dying over and over to get her to even agree with it. So until her shit became unstable they had no reason to think she would be anything but a time-controlling hyperdemon.
So no idea what that has to do with the idea of 'how could this be prevented'
I mean the eventual result wasn't that cataclysmic since they did manage to do that.
Yeah I honestly might put 5 even a lil lower, and 2 up slightly, but most people can't think straight about 5 because of the Body and the Gift. It was kind of a lackluster/slow season even though it had a few standouts.
I'm more of a 3 > 2 > 5 > 4 > 6 > 1 > 7 guy
Yeah but that has nothing to do with preventing her in the first place. It was entirely incidental, they got lucky because it was inconvenient to the plot to have that much power running around.
Honestly this is okay too. I take minor issue with 1 being so low since it's genuinely funny and campy, but you get just how abominable season 7 is and at least don't rate 4 so low.
3 is the absolute pinnacle. Aside from the clunky plot with Angel (necessary to set up spinoff), it's when the writing was best, the aesthetic was best, just everything at the top.
but why does Sup Forums hate the potential slayers and season 7 so much?
>build up to big bad was great
>everybody had subplots that tied into the main arc
>Conversations With Dead People
and how is the activation of all slayers not a good thing? It was the satisfactory way to end the story. Not to mention season 7 brought the focus of the story back to vampire and slayer lore
season 5 as a whole is pretty well calculated. tons of foreshadowing to Buffy's death and an overall theme of dualilty and split personality throughout the season.
5 was amazing on the whole, 4 did side plots and MOTWs best, with 3 somewhere in between. They're really a league above the rest.
>le 'back to basics' meme
this needs to end. why do tv writers think we want to go back?
Was it? I mean it set up the twist with the blood well, but other than that I thought all the foreshadowing of her death was done in like season 3 and 4. Enlighten me please user, I'd like to find a new appreciation for season 5
dues ex machina motherfucka
Because what else was there to do? She tussled with the Master, the Master's ace progeny, a pure demon and a rival slayer, a cyborg demon, a literal hell goddess, a powerful dark witch. The First Evil was a pretty logical step in upping the ante.
It's not like it toned down everything, it actual stepped the game
>more powerful vampires
>tons of slayers
>>Conversations With Dead People
why do people jizz over this episode?
>Dawn plot is cliche' horor trop that doesn't even make sense in retrospect (how did the first do all these things anyway)
>Willow talking to a random girl she doesn't know because Tara's actress refused to reprise the role that was obviously written for her.
>No Xander
>Buffy's 'discovery' is that she thinks she's better than other people. Wow, like we didn't figure that out years ago!
>The First Evil was a pretty logical step in upping the ante.
except she already faced him, and he was pretty lame even back then. reusing a lame old villain is lame.
>doesn't even make sense in retrospect (how did the first do all these things anyway)
which part didn't make sense? did you forget they were dealing with a primordial entity? what confused you? Joyce's apparition warning Dawn against Buffy? You mean the First tried to tear apart Dawn from Buffy, wow. how dare the First! Very uncharacteristic of it
>Willow talking to a random girl she doesn't know because Tara's actress refused to reprise the role that was obviously written for her
this is irrelevant to what they discussed and what she was tested for
>No Xander
who cares
>Buffy's 'discovery' is that she thinks she's better than other people. Wow, like we didn't figure that out years ago!
it's not the reveal that carried the episode--it's the way everything was handled and presented. Plus the score was a nice touch, too
>She dies at dawn
>her made up sister's name is Dawn
POTTERY
>reusing a lame old villain is lame
you sure about that, user? Angelus was still pretty good in Angel 4. In fact, prior to that, I thought Angelus from Buffy 2 was pretty low game
>Angelus was still pretty good in Angel 4
agree to disagree
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>which part didn't make sense?
>tv and stereo turn on by thensleves
>winds out of nowhere and flying shit all over
yup, The First can't do that, never could, never had.
r8 my tattoo
>the First didn't have minions
okay buddy
flaming star of david?
you can't be a villain in your own show, silly user.
It was like Angelus was constantly snorting coke compared to how he was in Buffy. He was pretty funny.
Did Papa Winchester learn from Angel?
looks neat, albeit a little too large
Its honestly the best introduction to the big bad they ever did, the only one that comes close imo is angelus s2 and that kinda fizzled out since his plan was so lame.
>le invisible minions argument
rationalizing shit writing.
Agreed, great intro but his endgame sucked
>Supernatural the Animation
is this any good? Never heard of it and I've watched all of the tv series.
>Its honestly the best introduction to the big bad they ever did
THANK YOU
>Big bad tormenting Spike, appearing as the previous big bads in reverse order
>repeated "From Beneath You It Devours"
>all the demons and supernaturally-attuned players feeling the arrival of something older than the old ones
>Willow repeats "From beneath you it devours"
>Not "it". Me
>angelus s2 and that kinda fizzled out since his plan was so lame
also this. The way Angel Investigations made it seem like Angelus was so fearsome and dangerous did not make sense to me because he was small game from Buffy, but boy did they step up his psychological game in Angel 4
Angel 4 fizzled out after The Beast, Faith and Angelus left center stage
Its japanese, also bobby looks weird, and no I've never watched it either, have heard good things tho.
Not a lot of light to it. In the light of what happened to Willow you basically had all the main characters feeling sorry for themselves or generally being super serious all the time.
That and there were a lot of secondary characters added with a fair bit of focus that it was a struggle to care about.
I don't think it was bad, just po-faced and didn't feel like the show it was.
>I am the danger!
Angelus's crowning moment in s2 was Ms Calendar, nothing came close to that.
never watched it really. i might in the future if the live action series ends
i thought this was just a random demon mafia boss