Rewatch avatar book 1

>rewatch avatar book 1
>its genuinely lighting in a bottle

holy fuck how did the same people make korra?

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Too much self-awareness and pressure to make something even better.

Aaron Ehasz was a big creative force behind the original series. He wasn't brought back for Korra.
I think it was his suggestion to have Iroh be secretly good the whole way through - the original series outline is floating out there somewhere on Sup Forums, and Iroh fights Zuko when Zuko becomes good.

korra was great

the upgrade in artstyle made up for any shortcomings in storytelling

bolin > sokka

>holy fuck how did the same people make korra?
But having actual writers and people to tell them their ideas suck.

Also having an outline for a whole story and not just "make the exact opposite of the last person who was the Avatar and throw some other people in there too, I guess."

It's easy to worldbuild something interesting and much harder to make a network mandated sequel based on what the audiences liked about the first show.

>I think it was his suggestion to have Iroh be secretly good the whole way through

It was obvious that Iroh was good the whole time. What you read was some unsubstantiated horseshit.

They had a team of writers and a proper crew.

Mike and Bryan's egos didn't swell yet.

They had a proper plan for three books and knew how to pace themselves, while Korra was greenlit as a miniseries and then they had no idea what to do when it became a full-blown show.

And not to mention the animation studio jump arounds. That hurt the show.
Anyone have those derpy eyed comparison pictures?

He was a force behind the show throughout the whole thing. Iroh being good was his idea from before they actually started writing and animating the show. It's definitely a legit outline - it even had production art - but it was posted years ago.

i thought korra was great but after rewatching the first few episode of last airbender and then watching the first episodes of korra it is like comparing a new hope to phantom menace

that being said even phantom menace had some enjoyable things like darth maul or light saber fights

>or light saber fights
Shut the fuck up.
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Bolin and Mako were pretty much Sokka split in half.

...that's not how it works.

Also no.

>>holy fuck how did the same people make korra?
They didn't. Avatar had tons of different writers compared to LoK.

I still liked Korra, but the network kept yanking them back and forth over just how much of the story they were expected to have planned out.

First it was a mini-series spread out into one season. Then it was a second season that had to backtrack on the closure the first had. Then they needed to make four. Then they lost the budget for an entire episode. etc.

They didn't write every episode for ATLA. They also had their own specialists in music, and fight choreography which korra could never achieve (the fighting).

Nickelodeon panicking at the end was hilarious, though.

Bolin was good in Book 1, but his character went to shit in Book 2 and never really recovered. I have no idea why his character took a sudden turn for the worse when he was just fine in the first Book.

They should've done what they did with Avatar: The Last Airbender. They weren't guaranteed to get a full series, but they still had everything planned out. If it was cancelled, the last episode would've been The Blue Spirit, a pretty good episode in its own right.

>tfw you can now enjoy ATLA in 1080p

light saber fights was like the only thing that was good about the prequels

i'll stand by what i said

your video is bullshit cherry picking

Remember when the pre-release material called him a ladies' man?

>could have been married to best girl

The lightsaber fights of the prequels are overly choreographed, sterile shit. Seeing Yoda bounce all over the place makes me laugh every time because it's so goddamn retarded while at the same time completely missing the entire point about what makes Yoda such a strong master of the Force.

The original draft for Iroh would have him mis-training Zuko in firebending on purpose

as a joke

>Got to see Zuko's life after the war in depth, his kids, and his grandkids they're even heavily focusing on him in the comics, still
>Got to see Katara and Aang's life after the war, their kids, and their grandkids
>Got to see Toph and her family after the war
>Never got to see Sokka's family or life after the war beyond a brief cameo, and he's the only other dead one other than Aang
why

Yeah, there's also some other interesting stuff in there like Toph and Azula both being men

Bolin was a victim of the Bermuda love triangle. He had to be charming enough to make the romance conflict more serious and awkward, but when he lost that his character arc was mainly just comic relief.

I warmed up to him in Book 4 though. He brought a human and morally ambiguous element to Kuvira's cause before it went full-Nazi.

oh man i forgot about that one

ok it was pretty bad

the fight with maul was top tier tho

and i liked the dooku duel and the mustafar duel but i still think the bespin duel and maul duel were the best in the series

He was spared from most of the bad writing, be grateful that he died in peace.

Korra book 1 is essentially the same experience, only sped up due to 13 episode only constrains. Books 2 and onward had the creators finally starting to fan pander.

THAT is what made the entirety of Korra different.

>Zuko's first draft

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Wow.

>besides the fact that aang only got that far because of sokka

They could've at least shown his kids, the characters were in the Southern Water Tribe more than once

>the upgrade in artstyle made up for any shortcomings in storytelling

Remember how Sup Forums still makes him out to be one and puts him on a pedestal instead of just some idiot who the plot allows things to happen to him for no reason to give him relevance?

Don't forget that they gave Yoda two duels. One on Geonosis and the other in the Senate chamber on Curascant. They just didn't learn their lesson in Attack of the Clones.
>and the mustafar duel
It just kept going and going and going and going and going and going. Climbing shit, and swinging on ropes. They probably spent most of their writing budget figuring out locations for the fight to happen.

The Bespin duel is the GOAT of the series, though. I think especially so because it wasn't overly flashy.

>It just kept going and going and going and going and going and going.
It wasn't any longer than the ESB duel.

i like the mustafar duel because of how silly it is

is there anything else in the whole of movies that does anything that insane?

it was like 17 or 30 mins of pure dueling absolute man lucas

then we see the most iconic movie villain being turned into a bacon man screaming I HATE YOU

>I saw Empire as a kid and it cemented the idea in my brain of what every single SW movie must be otherwise I won't like it
The very definition of a nostalgiafag.

>It was obvious that Iroh was good the whole time. What you read was some unsubstantiated horseshit.

Its on the FUCKING ARTBOOK of the show.

Iroh was going to be evil and trained Zuko wrong as a joke, the idea was changed before Book Water, but I think that we can still see some traces of it on the first episode.

I kind of liked the Mustafar duel.

I was just annoyed they gave them both the same color of saber, so I could barely tell who was swinging at whom during the far-out shots.

korra s1e02 was amazing and made me think maybe there would be a sports aspect to the series

they really should have done more with probending conflicting with traditional bending, especially how it was all about efficiency and cut out the spiritual aspect of bending

the only thing last airbender did better was having dual storylines throughout multiple seasons (zuko's development paralleling aang's journey), whereas korra was only ever about korra

would have been great if korra had been more about the avatar slowly losing purpose in modern society, not just with bending being overtaken by technological development but also a population that just didn't believe in spirituality as a viable path of progress anymore

would have been a more pessimistic story but the story we got had 4 seasons of korra being beaten up, drugged, tied up, and tortured until she got severe PTSD so it's not like a more pessimistic story was out of the question

Most of the same people who made TLA did not return to make Korra.

>the creator is missing the point of his own character.

Pretty sure that his point was "this little guy is the killer rabbit from Monty Python".

Here's your (You)

what did he mean by this?

is this how fem dom fetishes are born?

>would have been great if korra had been more about the avatar slowly losing purpose in modern society, not just with bending being overtaken by technological development but also a population that just didn't believe in spirituality as a viable path of progress anymore

The Avatar did lose purpose with modern society. And the population didn't believe in spirituality for a long time what with the Fire Nation killing the most spiritual people on the planet. It was never a viable path of progress but simply a way of life and a means to center yourself.

The Avatar lost so much purpose in modern society that the storyline was never about Korra and what she learned and taught others but about the villain of the season and what state the part of the world was in.

Also a sports aspect would be terrible and it was terrible. It works as a mini-game in a video game but should not have spotlight in the show regardless of how many episodes.

Season one alone was riddle with some many plot holes and inconstancy that I could enjoy the animation. Also Bolin went full retard after season 1

It's been ages since I last saw Episode 3, but I remember laughing during one part of it, I think they were cut back to the fight (possibly from the Yoda/Palpatine fight) and they were just swinging on the cables fighting each other. It was just too ridiculous for me. It was almost like a parody.
Man, fuck off with this shit. I saw all the Star Wars when I was a kid. There was a period where I would watch Attack of the Clones every single day when I came home from school. I thought it was the coolest shit.
I did not enjoy 3 in theaters, though.

multiple story lines are necessary for any show

you should always be cutting back and forth when each reach its peak

Im super happy I never watched Korra, feels good

Some parts were really good, I liked the story of the first Avatar. The animation was excellent in those two episodes.

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>plot holes
I just liked how stupid everyone was. Nobody thought anything through at all.

>It was almost like a parody

thats my exact feelings on korra and the prequels

but i love parody's

Im just content with ATLA, and I knew from the start Korra would only disappoint.

That's another thing the show did badly, foreshadowing. All of Amon's backstory was shoved into the last few episodes.

I mean, they kind of tied into it with the Yakkone bloodbending trial and shit, but it just fell so flat.
God, everyone was so stupid.
>my face isn't actually burned
>it's just make up

I want to see Korra pass out after being drugged and sexually assaulted for days without even a moment to rest.

I want to see Eska choked out and then slapped awake before involuntarily throwing up a gallon of semenvomit. Desna was the mastermind.

I want to see Asami descend into severe drunken depression, drug abuse, and general self-harm as Future Industries gets targeted by spies from Cabbage Corp and ruined due to a lack of proper copyright in Republic City.

>Pretty sure that his point was "this little guy is the killer rabbit from Monty Python".
That is a terrible point to make. 1980 George Lucas would kick 2002 George Lucas right in the nuts.

I am dreading the shit out of the Yoda movie.

>the Yoda movie
I was much happier before I knew this existed, why did you have to say anything?

The Yakone stuff felt too, I don't know what word to use, coincidental? I don't know. It felt convenient that Amon was related to Yakone. And they never bothered to explain how he found out about bloodbending, and how he perfected it to be able to be used without a full moon. Or why Katara couldn't fix the benders with her own bloodbending.

God Bless Ehasz

>Master Water the sister element to air.
>Master Fire the opposite and opposing element of water
>Master Earth
>Can't airbend at all.
>no clear explanation why this happen.

To give context Aang could play with all the elements but his opposite (Earth) because it was against his skill set. Somehow I'm to believe a 16 year old Korra that was all ready a prodigy in the other 3 elements at age 3~5 couldn't crack that one element in over a decade?
It's like fanfiction writers were in charge.

Her male design was reused for Roku's Earthbending master. Toph also asks Aang later in the episode if friendships can transcend lifetimes, so it's possible she's his reincarnation.

Why did Amon use waterbending to come up? Of all the BS in Korra, that's the one thing that bugs me. He had no reason to use a water bending sprout to get out of the water. He could have swam away and seemed like a martyr and then came back when he got his make up fixed.

Right, it was like Fate kept doing a Xanatos gambit with Korra.

It has to do with their personality. Not their elemental affinity or skillset.

Some people theorize that in a past life she was Roku's Earth Bender teacher, because he is the one in the opening, and he was meant to be her.

Also, in the same episode she asks Aang if he believes that friendship can carry on other lifes and reincanations.

What you guys think?

Fuck, you wrotte it first.

Apparently there was to be a love triangle between Male Toph, Katara, and Aang.

Thank fucking god it never happened.

Her introduction as a kid kind of annoys me. Its too on the nose with the "deal with it" attitude and her already mastering 3 elements is bullshit

Is Korra the show that filled the world with such hate for love triangles?

desu her personality always seemed more in tune with earth or fire than water.

No skillset was also a factor. Airbending is based around fluid movements and redirecting an opponents attack. Earthbending is all about strong stances, enduring hits, and dishing out heavy attacks.

Better question, why would the movement fall apart on that alone? He has used his powers in front of them, he could easily share his story in fear of being rejected and truly wanted benders gone, some would decent but the whole movement would still rally behind him.
Also I was really pissed off Korra just magically learn Air bending after her other powers were strip, it opens up so many unanswered question and this was all before be man Aang fixes her and everyone else.

>you think of me when you're with her, don't you!
Yes

No, it's a cliche in YA fiction. Korra didn't just have a love triangle, it had a love hexagon.

>holy fuck how did the same people make korra?

It's not, though. Most of the writers and directors of the TLA left. DiMartino was really the only constant between both shows across all seasons while Konietzko left aft the first season of LoK.

Many teens rubbed one out to Korra's screams of pain.

I kind of liked that. In contrast to Aang, Korra had a forceful personality and natural talent that made her cocky and aggressive from the get-go.

Which ties into how her character arc ends up revolving around how she has to acknowledge that being the Avatar is more of a cross to bear than a lottery that she won, and that she would have to mature to handle that.

GUYS

GUYS

THINK ABOUT IT

AN AIRBENDING CHI BLOCKER

Do you know this from experience?
Ty Lee would've done well as an Airbender if Aang made her into one.

Korra was great, Avatar was still better, second season of Avatar is the best, movie is a blemish on existence, I am boring and my opinions are boring

At least politically I'm a closet racist

GUYS

GUYS

RANDOM PEOPLE ARE NOW AIRBENDERS FOR CONTRIVED REASONS

This looks like it was written by a robot.
And not someone on /r9k/, like an actual machine.

Right and if her personality was suffering air bending her water would be shit too.
And again she was super woman with the other three elements, it's like they just ignored the abnormality that she was block out till she was 16 and then magically cared.
Yes, it was like the creators were going "See she great and train we don't have to wasn't time on how she learn these skills, but air, air is fuck, why? I don't know it just is because she needs a flaw"

Which is fine I suppose but again, her knowing 3 elements at fucking 5 is reaching even for the Avatar

>it's a cliche in YA fiction
to be fair it's pretty much a fact of YA life

I remember back in season 2 when people thought Bolin and Asami was going to be a thing, I laugh thinking of what anguish those fools must have felt as the show ended

>love triangle
I could have gotten over it if it ended with that one awkward episode, but it just kept coming back.

At least they had the sense to put if out of its misery, with Korra finally admitting that she and Mako suck at romance. Just a shame it took two seasons to do it.

>They never brought back Amon's Lieutenant and made him an airbender.
>We never got to see him become the very thing he hates.

It's fuck up how floozy Korra was. For a girl focused role model her entire run can be summed up as "don't be this bitch"

They had to complete every story within 12 episode and couldn't effort making 80% of the time filler.

So I forget, in the OS anyone could theoretically learn bending with years of practice correct and didnt Korra do some weird genetic bullshit?

I was one of those people
Fandom hype can turn nothing into something
I had hope the show would address them both being snubbed by Mako and somewhat snubbed Korra

Like I said, my opinions regarding the show are so mainstream I don't think they even register as opinions

I did make joke after book 1 that Korra and Asami should get together to spite Mako after having him lead both of them on, made the next three seasons relatively exciting

No, Bryke gave an interview while the original was still on - bending is genetics/culture/nationality/spirituality. It's something few are born with. That's why Katara was the only Waterbender in the South Pole.
When you think about it, they actually did pair her up or at least tease her with every member of Team Avatar.

>and natural talent that made her cocky and aggressive from the get-go.
Aang was just as bad until he burn Kat then he changed up.
>her character arc ends up revolving around how she has to acknowledge that being the Avatar is more of a cross to bear than a lottery that she won, and that she would have to mature to handle that.
and then she throws it all out the fucking window. She never learn a thing the whole run of the series, it was like watching 'Homer's Enemy' except we viewers are Frank Grimes.

It's not even that they had to, Bryke wanted shorter seasons for Avatar. They got their wish with Korra.