Captain, did I ever tell you about my adoptive human sister? She started that war with the Klingons ten years ago that everyone remembers and talks about all the time, since you were about 25 when it happened. She was a good friend.
Captain, did I ever tell you about my adoptive human sister...
...Fuck me, when you read this, you really start to wish they would have made a post-DS9/Voyager trek
>T'Kuvma the Unforgettable
>Is never once remembered after Star Trek: Discovery
Bravo Vince.
...
>I forgot
Reminder if you watch nuTrek you are literal redditard cancer
Captain, if you kill him he'll be a martyr that will unify the klingons forever. Let's take him as prisoner.
Great idea, captain. Beaming a torpedo warhead inside a klingon body to be recovered by them probably won't kill T'Kuvma.
Now that our plan worked let's beam inside their shit and so I can switch my phasers to lethal before I shoot him.
There really is no reason for them to have shoehorned this in right before TOS
Continuity issues could have easily been avoided if they cared at all.
>wish they would have made a post-DS9/Voyager trek
If only
She was also famous. starfleet's first mutineer.
>sister was a mutineer
>looks just like a romulan
>dad looks EXACTLY like the romulan they just met
All this guy gave him was mean looks, he should've fucking blasted his ass
They could have left that bit of backstory on the cutting room floor and not changed much. Even use a different Vulcan foster parent. It is unnecessary to tie her to Saravok to justify her Mary Sue powers.
>Captain, did I ever tell you about my adoptive human sister?
No, and it's entirely in character that you wouldn't. You didn't tell Kirk & McCoy that Ambassador Sarek was your father until he was on board the Enterprise, and you'd known them for nearly thirty years before you told them you had brother.
Don't forget Sybok. The cult leader brother.
Spocks family cinematic universe when?
>Excuse me. What does God need with a Star Ship?
>STD apologists
Not even once
>trying to build up a case against STD
Good for you.
>complaining about things that aren't worth complaining about
This undermines your case.
>t. orshille
Engineering here, scotty speaking
we cannie get a lock on im capin, eye suggest we use the ol tractor beam on the on the discarded hull, if you give us a minute I could probably give us warp 3 and move to safer distance
good work scotty, get ready to beam down security
Why is Discovery set before Star Trek? The Klingon motive would make more sense if it was a few decades after the Dominion war. The thing Discovery is researching would make more sense.
>Why is Discovery set before Star Trek?
Because they wanted it to be? Because they really don't know where to go post-Voyager?
Fake and lame.
>LAFORGE: Yeah, well I told the Captain I'd have this analysis done in an hour.
>SCOTT: How long will it really take?
>LAFORGE: An hour.
>SCOTT: You didn't tell him how long it would really take, did you?
>LAFORGE: Of course I did.
>SCOTT: Oh, laddie, you've got a lot to learn if you want people to think of you as a miracle worker.
Scotty would tell the bridge that it would take hours to get warp 3.
In any case, ship couldn't do warp 3. It couldn't do any warp at all. They had to abandon the ship, remember?
Difference is this would be a matter of starfleet record not something internal to the Vulcans. They've shown Michael to be famous among starfleet and it's in starfleet's record that Sarek is her adoptive parent.
>Wait Sarek is your father? So Michael Burnham is your step sister? The famous [mutineer/insert final legacy] that we heard about in pop culture and at the academy?
I'm guessing her legacy will end up being something positive but this is all unnecessary. The more important she becomes the more ridiculous it is. Just set the fucking show after TNG/DS9. But they wanted to use the JJ films' popularity so we have this shit.
>and at the academy?
Kirk and McCoy are already out of the academy at this point.
it's no longer possible to make a trek after the events of voyager
voyager brought back armor that is impervious to all weapons, time travel is even more ubiquitous and carelessly introduced into stories, and the borg are downgraded to target practice
they would have to reinvent everything, including weapons, dramatic limitations in technology, and enemies
Why would anyone give a shit about continuity between Trek series?
Perfect starting point for Mass Effect 1.
>impervious to all weapons.
>armor almost fails from present time borg attack in like 30 seconds.
>hello we're the galactic time cops, we'll be taking all that.
But then they effortlessly blow up the Borg ships until it doesn't fail.
The Borg are weak against new weapons. It takes them a bit to adapt.
And now they're all dead.
True. Thanks
>And through Starfleet*
Spock forgot his adopted nigger sister was Starfleet's first mutineer when he said there was no record of mutiny on a Starfleet vessel. Or even his mutiny during the Talos IV incident.
Star Trek Online has dibs on post Voyager timeline.
>We don’t introduce anything to just not pay it off. This creature is vital to our show. This creature is vital to Burnham’s journey. And the audience should look at this “monster” as sort of a metaphor for [Michael] Burnham. And in the next episode Burnham is going to be confronting what that means. Is she a monster or is she not?
Did he ever mention his brother until star trek 5
No they aren't. There are multiple queens. Just like the death of one queen that has gone back in time in First Contact didn't do jack shit to the collective, the death of the main timeline Queen will only be a temporary setback. The Borg will adapt.
here kitty kitty
He's lampooning the fact the Burnham is infamous among Starfleet. And at a time when Kirk was in his twenties and would clearly know about all this shit.
The canon is dun broke.
This:
7 of 9 formed a small collective with just 3 other borg when they crashed. Imagine thousands of drones doing the same now that they don't have a queen. Until they decide to make a new one.
Infecting the queen with that virus was just a diversion, to allow Voyager to get away, it wasn't meant to destroy the entire Borg collective.
Because they want the "things I know" crowd of people who only have a vague understanding of Trek.
Every single episode is littered with references to established Star Trek lore only those can pick up on who are hardcore trek fans. Vague understanding my ass...
You can hear this person sniffing their own farts. The thing I have hated so far, especially in the first episode was all the "smart" dialog and "whoa deep/epic" visuals. Without good writing, all that stuff amounts to is material for an epic trailer.
OMG a Tribble XD!
if that's the only thing you noticed you're a trek brainlet
Spock also forgot about all the mutinies during the TOS episode This Side of Paradise.
Maybe TOS isn't canon.
Even Enterprise made an effort to uphold continuity. The ship was less technologically advanced than in TOS and yet the sets looked fine. In season 3 they also had T'Pol start wearing outfits that were similar to the TOS outfits. It was subtle but you could see how it could eventually evolve into the TOS era fashion.
>DIS creators: lol fuck you nerds
>The true monster is MAN
Truly thought provoking stuff they've got going on
>its a Michael is a smug self-righteous unlikeable bitch episode
OMG the ship is NCC 1031!
31!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
again, brainlet
Not him, but I'd love to hear about all the details I missed out when watching. What were the easter eggs?
>Even Enterprise made an effort to uphold continuity.
Daily Reminder that cloaking devices are supposed to be purely theoretical before the episode Balance of Terror, yet Enterprise shows multiple species using them, including the Romulans.
For example, Spock's mom loving Alice in Wonderland? That's a reference to TAS, Once Upon a Planet.
For something more subtle, when Michael was in the mushroom chamber, part of her quantum hallucination was a reference to the TOS episode The Paradise Syndrome.
Things I know!
How about Alice in Wonderland for starters instead of the OMAGAWD DRIBBLES AND SECTUN 31 bullshit?
STD is part of the NuTrek timeline.
I doubt that you watched TAS, to be honest.
No it isn't. It's explicitly set in normal Trek. The showrunners are just bending/breaking canon and telling nerds to stfu
Star Trek Discovery is set in the Kelvin timeline not the Prime timeline. Try again, OPenis.
>Alice in wonderland
Oh, that's why they did that? I've only seen ToS like twice and it don't remember that. The scene in STD came off as cheesy and really weird though, I thought it was just a reason to mention Amanda is spocks mum before winking at the camera. I suppose i'm glad there is more too it but it's still pretty shitty and weird they are shoehorning spock into STD.
>It's explicitly set in normal Trek.
Source or you're bullshiting.
Then there's a Chateau Picard wine on the Captain's shelf on the Shenzou with books that are titled TOS episode names, etc.
You missed the references to the guardians of forever and the iconians.
Still doesn't make STD's writing any less atrocious. Remember that time they walked in the shape of a Starfleet badge during a sandstorm so their ship could see them? Or that time when Michael was made a scapegoat for a massive war yet her or her mutiny are never brought up ever again even when the conversation would dictate that it be brought up?
But OMG, the reflections on Lorca's eyes look like Gary Mitchell eyes! 10/10!
They haven't broken canon yet.
TAS, not TOS. McCoy and Spock are discussing Alice, Kirk teases him and Spock defends himself by saying that his mother loves the books, and also that there's nothing wrong with light reading.
Wrong, it's confirmed several times to be Prime.
See
I still do not see a source.
Spock mutinies twice in TOS season 1 (The Menagerie, This Side of Paradise). You should just ignore that line about no record of mutinies.
io9.gizmodo.com
How are you on the internet without a search engine?
>I'm too lazy or stupid to google, or both
"Set roughly a decade before the events of the original Star Trek series and separate from the timeline of the concurrent feature films, Discovery explores the Federation–Klingon cold war while following the crew of the USS Discovery. Gretchen J. Berg and Aaron Harberts serve as showrunners on the series, with producing support from Akiva Goldsman."
Wikipedia
"Discovery is a rare new piece of Trek media that takes place in the franchise’s original continuity, instead of in the spinoff “Kelvin Timeline” of the big-budget J.J. Abrams films that have served as the only new Star Trek properties for the last decade."
The Verge
etc.
FAKE NEWS
Try Wikipedia. In 2016 they
>announced the series' title to be Star Trek: Discovery,[43] and revealed that it would be set in the "Prime Timeline" (which includes the previous Star Trek series, but not the modern reboot films) to keep the concurrent series and films separate, so "we don't have to track anything [happening in the films] and they don't have to track what we're doing"
Holographic communicators break canon.
Everything else is mass hysteria over nothing though.
Star Trek: Discovery will be set in the “Prime Universe” (so in the timeline of the original shows, not the J.J. Abrams reboot films), about a decade before Captain Kirk’s five-year mission. “We can redefine the visual style,” he said. “We get to play with all of the iconography of those ships and that universe. Since we are doing this series in 2016, and all of the other series have been produced [at a time that] isn’t as sophisticated as we are now with what we can do production-wise, we’re going to be reestablishing an entire look for the series — not only for the series, but for what we wanted to accomplish with Star Trek beyond this series.”
>budget that allows for more CGI breaks canon
>I haven't seen TNG season 1 or the DS9 episode "For the Uniform"
Sure. Brush up on your trek knowledge, it blows. Big time.
>Because they really don't know where to go post-Voyager?
the grim war story would better work in a post-dominion-war-timeline with ships like the defiant being around.
So it's just a straight up reboot. Which is why they don't give a fuck about canon, visual continuity or technological continuity.
>I want to see 51 year old visuals
turbo autism
Wtf are you on about? When they install the holocommunicators on the defiant in DS9 they explicitly state that this is new technology, so how are they supposed to have it like 100 years earlier
>the borg are downgraded to target practice
borg were a boring antagonist race anyways. klingons, romulans and cardassians are way more fun.
Not what I was referring to.
If they hadn't stated it's new, you trek purists would have bitched and moaned endlessly just like you do now why you haven't seen it so far. They needed to mention it's new so you can shut the fuck up about it.
Sarek, I KNOW WHAT THAT IS!
It was brand new technology in that episode.
I don't really give a shit and I'm not mad at STD because I don't get upset over retcons. But it still is one.
Borg were great when they were unthinking, unstoppable monsters. Voyager and later TNG ruined them.
isnt modernity spectacular?
please accept that there a difference between modern special effects, and modern special effects that are good
no but they could have had visual continuity from VOY and DS9 era trek and done a soft reboot, actually moving into the future and defining their own landscape instead of playing the safety of a prequel
Please calm down. There is no need to treat your current conversation partners like they are your enemy.
I think it only added to their creep factor that they had an actual ideology instead of a simplistic directive. I found the later borg episodes much more menacing than the first ones, and I've been watching them as they aired 30 years ago.
It's not. It's something a higher budget allows only purists are triggered by.
I won't accept it. I welcome the fact that I don't see some anachronistic regurgitation of the same, half a century old tropes and visuals.
What bothers me is how eerily similar Michael's backstory is to Worf's and how unlikable she is compared to him.
In the pilots a thought Micheal was unlikable as hell and obnoxious.
After seeing how much of a douche every single person on Discovery is, she's actually not that bad anymore. Still a terrible character though.
(I like Lorca)
I found Worf pretty unlikable for most of TNG. He served only one purpose, to have this awesome warrior race on the bridge as a punching bag for enemies to make a point how physically superior they are, they can even 1 punch a klingon.
It wasn't until the Duras and Gowron feud I felt less annoyed seeing him, but it was DS9 that made him an actual, likeable person.
The Federation are the galactic time cops
Bitch please. When you need to get told, you gon get told.
basically this
Worf was Enterprise D-s ensign Kim.