Studying film in college?

Studying film in college?

Yes or no

Absolutely yes

No. Study film at films.

Yeah go for it! Mad cash potential guaranteed employment $200k starting

Absolutely not.. .
Considering nowadays 15 year olds with internet access are watching tarkovsky and dovzhenko films thanks to IMDb your film major is an absolutely useless joke

Yes. I just took out a $150,000 loan to study french poetry. My life is fulfilled I'm so happy now I could die

You can make a professional film with an iPhone, a selfie stick and a pirated copy of after effects.

Fuck college, especially art majors.

Don't go to film school user. Go to films

as in production or theory? if you study "film" at Arizona State or whatever it basically only trains you for a job as an archivist or a critic

Don't go to film school, go to films.
And I say that as someone who went to flick school.
You will learn more about making films by making your own movies. Get people skills by casting crews, securing locations, raising funds, learn how to balance a budget, hit deadlines, make mistakes.
If there was a virgin X, chad Y meme about filmmaking, it would be the virgin film student and the chad micro-budget filmmaker

Unironically this.
Film school is filled with pompous assholes and "know it all" professors who have never made an actual movie in their life

Production.

I mean theres more to making a film than just holding a camera and knowing cinematography and sound design. There are hundreds of professionals working on big movies surely there is some way in? I feel like everyone is saying no but then only giving the self employed kinda explanation

No

That depends. How good are you at preparing coffee?

>Runner
No how do people get a job as someone in the credits of a movie that actually work on a movie? Lighting technicians, sound designers, editors, set designers, colourists, consultants etc.

This. Studios care about the bottom line budget more so than an edgy knock off Aronofosky shit. Don't just watch films though, analyze them too. What makes a certain film good and another bad? Pay attention to details too; lighting, resolution, cinematography, acting, casting choices, plot and story. Also there's no better experience than going out and doing it. Get some friends, hit up local colleges Facebook pages or Craigslist and get involved. Film the worst movie ever, who gives a fuck. Post it online and get honest criticism, not
>hurdur fake and stupid
Fuck film school, learn in the real world.

>Considering nowadays 15 year olds with internet access are watching tarkovsky and dovzhenko


This so much

You will be paying $250,000 for essentially the same amount of knowledge a persistent and inquisitive 15 year old gets for free in his spare time

It depends on your level of drive and what you're going to do with the networking and production opportunities. If you want to learn about movies and how to make them then it's a complete waste of time and money. If you want to acquire resources for making movies and build professional connections then it might be worth something. Film sets are like small communities and your success within them and the industry is directly dependent on social interactions

>i study film

How do I actually learn about the technical skills of directing and cinematography? Watching a shit ton of films isn't very educational if you're not looking at for the right things to observe

If only there was a global network of information, like a web of some sort, to learn about any topic you could imagine.

Art Institutions are to create art and make connections in the art world. Not to make capeshit and rise in the Hollywood system

>This. Studios care about the bottom line budget more so than an edgy knock off Aronofosky shit.
As long as your latest movie made money, you should be able to find an investor giving you more money to make a bigger movie. George Lucas made the best analogy by saying a director is basically a professional gambler, and the studio is giving him money to go to the casino and win them money.

Do you have a portfolio that will get you in to a decent one that like usc or ucla? Are you actually talented? Do you have connections or are you socially attractive? Are you loaded?
Unless you have a strong yes to at least one of those, then it is a massive waste of money and time.

t. Limited knowledge of film, their idea of something deep is incredibly pedestrian and pseud reddit friendly

It's a big web. Most of it is filled with nigger porn and useless shit.

You could watch interviews, documentaries and some YouTube channels dedicated to breaking down the technical aspects of a film (not critics, channels like everyframeapainting). There would be massive amounts of books you could read as well. Ultimately, it's experience and networking that will land you a job in the film industry.

Try looking somewhere outside of Sup Forums, then.

you mean like reddit?

there are people on Sup Forums who went into debt being so delusional that they were going to make a movie with no connections or anything to show apart that one script they have obsessed on for years

meanwhile there are kids still in school making video games or short youtube movies just for fun which will result in an actual portfolio before they hit 20

College in general is a meme.

Especially art school.

Only and I mean ONLY go to art school if youre going to use that to make connections. Its useless for anything else.

>after effects is a NLE
Whatever you do, don't ever listen to advice from people who obviously don't know what they are talking about.

My friend's dad is a producer and he told all his kids who wanted to do film to stay away from film school. He said that people in the film industry don't give a fuck about where you studied and what to see your portfolio of work.

I'm taking intro to Film for an art credit, does that count?

if by "film" you mean film production, then sure. You can have access to equipment and get to know people, and by the end you will have a degree that will help you get a job.

If by "film" you mean just film theory, then fuck no.

I'll take a Grande pumpkin spice latte, andale andale hombre

BASED

but film school can allow a person to work on projects to put on their demo reel.

The biggest meme thrown around about film or art school is that it's only for making connections and networking. While networking is not a meme, going to college for the sole purpose of networking is. 9 times out of 10 people don't make any substantial career connections in their years attending film/art school.

I cannot stress how much of a bad idea studying any non-STEM degree at college or university is.
At best you'd be throwing away 3 years of your youth in exchange for an overall lifetime earning of about 150,000 dollars.

Unless you want to be a director or a stagehand I would work on journalism or something else

To be honest I'm not into film at all. I enjoy watching them but I've never tried to study it and it's not a career I want to move into. I think he was trying to say that it's not worth dropping a load of money into when you can put yourself out there and achieve those things spending less money then with doing a degree in it. He's done a few documentaries, films, TV shows and apparently gave some famous Australian actor (his name slips my mind) his first break which is cool. He's still struggling right now with money so be wary if you want to get into the field. It probably won't be easy.

but that's assuming that everyone wants to be a director. There are many other film related skills that allow for more stable jobs and even can be used in other related industries.

Same question, but college/uni is free in my country(Finland). Y/N?

He's not a director, he's a producer. He's also from Australia and the film industry here is fucked and there's not a lot of money in it. So I guess it depends where you live and how much money your government puts into it. And maybe other roles in film are more needed and get more work. If you really want to do it I'd say just go for it. But be ready for the dark road.

I was thinking about switching to journalism to my degree, is this a good idea?

How many people can even work in the film industry in Finland? Like people said ITT, networking is the only real advantage of film school. Networking in a finnish film school won't get you a job as a director in Hollywood. But it might get you a job in some finnish government funded art project or whatever.

That's what I thought. Getting into such a small industry might be hard without any merits.

the big thing is just getting any degree ASAP. I see kids spend 5 years in community college because they change their major 5 times

God no, study something that'll broaden your mind or skills. Film is just masturbation and pretentious assholes who think theyre better than everyone else (mind you thats all of uni, but film is littered with tons and tons of these mongs).

>Watching movies is the same as understanding them and getting the technical prowess to actually use the million dollar equipment

lol what kind of delusional faggot are you

>avoiding anything reddit for the sake of fulfilling Sup Forums hivemind
Just fucken go there if you want, man. Who are you trying to impress, anyways?

>He thinks universities let the unwashed masses spend hours playing with million-dollar equipment and "honing their craft"

AAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!

Journalism isn't the best industry to go into right now. It's shrinking; journalists are getting axed left and right as clickbait on social media gets better viewership than well researched, informative articles written by reputable writers. Smaller papers are dying out, and the equivalent of the NYT and the WaPo are cutting costs and changing their content to help compete against Buzzfeed and Vox and Facebook and Twitter. The NYT has stated its thinking about scrapping the paper newspaper to focus on its online efforts. Even newswires like Bloomberg are experimenting with bots that write articles. You'll most likely get a job at Buzzfeed writing listicles and pop news for $27,000 to 33,000 a year, and be expected to keep up with ALL the social media trends.

Now, if you're willing to work, you can move up. Buzzfeed publishes some decent investigative journalism, so if you want to advance, you'd probably have to start there. You write something decent, a "serious" news company might want to hire ya. You had better get comfortable being around people, because both your work (interviews, meetings, social media) and networking to get better projects and maybe get a better job / do side work is HIGHLY dependent on your networking skills.

as long as your purpose is to make propaganda flicks to destroy the patriarchy, go for it