When did you realize Rightwing Environmentalism is the ultimate redpill

When did you realize Rightwing Environmentalism is the ultimate redpill.

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Wasn't the guy that started green peace right wing and then it got taken over by blue haired fems?

Basically be a lumberjack or some shit, eat nothing but salmon, everything will sort itself out.

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Conservation, not Environmentalism. The latter is a bunch of feel good hooha hippie boomers invented to save the whales.

>Rightwing Environmentalism is the ultimate redpill.

The first time I explored The Everglades.

It's not a real ideology yet but I am fabricating it.

Here are some standpoints:

-Low taxes
-Anti Big Oil (No more favours!)
-Against cheap oil from Middle-East and Muslims --> rising oil prices means
car manufacturers forced to go electric ( we are Pro-Tesla and similar)
- Nuclear, Hydro, Wind, Solar, Thermal and Gas energy

Basically rightwing environmentalism accepts CO2 and global warming is bullshit, but we do really, really want to cut down on REAL pollutants (SOx, NOx, Chlorine, and all other shit)

Here's part of your Tesla's carbon footprint, a nickle mine. None of the "green" energy bullshit is green, it's just highly-subsidized happy pappy BULLshit.

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Shouldn't we be saving the whales tho?
Or at least be trying to get the japanese to stop killing them?
I rather pay for the whales than the nogs

Floridians sure love their publix.
On a related note, that chick looks a lot like my cousin from florida.
Why do we have to be family members. She is so fucking hot. :(
On the plus side, my family doesn't mind skinship.

>Rightwing
these faggots are pushing gary johnson shit all over my area they are fucking SJWs with guns

I like the sound of this. I've always had a strong environmentalist streak even though I lean right on most other political issues.

As a right winger who actually knows enough to believe the science of climate change (BSc w Hons in Chemistry) this appeals to me. What are the basic tenets of this movement?

I hope we're all prepared for underground eco terrorism when they take fracking too far.

I've always told people ever since I found out what Cascadia could be, it'll be the future of white people.
>blue water access
>abundance in resources
>mild climate, besides rain.
>easily defendable mountain ranges
>cloud cover aids against eyes in the sky
>by land an attacker would have to make his way all the way across the continental USA or Canada
>easy to defend against naval invasion
>fighting insurgents would be near impossible
>white conservative population of the USA, Canada, S.A., and Europe could build it up into a powerhouse and keep it
I'm telling you bros
It could happen. Besides, how glorious would it be to take that land from liberal crybabies and make it a semi fascist, conservation minded ethnostate that can go innawoods anytime?

In a similar vein so to speak. I work in the Acrhitecture and Construction industry. I got news about 90% of the LEED Green Building Program is kickbacks to favored rent seeking corporations and governments

Change the flag to this.

you fucking cuckold democrat in disguise.

What

you are so fucking reatrded.

Yeah go ahead. Let me gues you jsut moved there?

Live there for 20 years faggot. you aint gonna do shit.

Your all autistic anti social fuckheads. You cant ever form a group if your too fucking autistic to even say hi or talk to your neighbors you fucking game of drones loving sperglord.

>as a right winger that underwent marxist indoctrination this appeals to me
Manmade climate change is a cult and Obama is its prophet

Sounds like a Green Capitalism idea I was working on before.

Prepare for dump.

you almost hit the sweet spot. until you started ranting about global warming being a hoax.

have you ever been to Cascadia dude? Its a study in cuckoldry at this juncture.

NEW PRINCIPLES FOR ECOLOGICAL CONSERVATION
1. Accept the role of the free market as the guiding force in human behavior and not state mandates.
2. Incorporate effective economic mechanisms, such as private property, profit incentive and prices, for pursuing ecological and biological protection.
3. Understand the difference between potential and proven reserves and the economic impact of technological progress on resource availability and usage.
4. Accept that externalities dominate all human activities and find ways to mitigate their impact and; that the price system encourages conservation and alternative resource development.
5. Abandon the risk-adverse, zero-impact mentality and develop a balanced cost-benefit analysis taking in account individual variations of tolerance.
6. Accept innovation for meeting standards and not dictating specific controls or methods for limiting pollution.
7. Understand the Kuznets Curve which demonstrates how long-term growth correlates with higher demand for human welfare and environmental protection.
8. Understand how Moore's Law allows for future technologies to utilize fewer resources at lower costs over time; and how Comparative Trade Advantage enables free trade to conserve resources.
9. Concentrate efforts on protecting communities and individual human beings from direct environmental health hazards.
10. Understand that the greatest polluters are governments and work toward a regime that enforces pollution controls against government actions as well as private.
11. Understand the limits of energy efficiency on conservation imposed by Jevons Paradox.

Threats to Environmental Conservation
1. Public ownership creates a tragedy of the commons for forests, wetlands and grasslands.
2. Prior-Restraint regulation socializes the costs of environmental damage thereby encouraging it.
3. Federal subsidies of dams, irrigation and agriculture damaging wetland habitats.
4. Prohibiting ownership and commercial use of endangered animals hastens extinction.
5. Federal agency exemption from both clean water and clean air standards.
6. Illegal dumping on public lands due to sporadic public enforcement.
7. Eminent domain use on behalf of private interests for risky projects.
8. Public funded insurance encouraging people live in flood zones and coasts.
9. Trade barriers protecting water-intensive agriculture and manufacturing.
10. Reducing the effectiveness and quality of green products via non-competitive subsidies.
11. Draconian wildlife protection laws encouraging wildlife destruction.
12. Economic stagnation and recession increase tolerance of eco-degradation (Kuznets Curve).
13. Excessive regulation and prohibitive insurance mandates have stifled the development of safe and emission-free nuclear power.

I've loved there for a long time. It's home to me. That's why I said it should be taken from those people in

How to Fix These Failed Policies
1. Privatize the majority of public lands and aquifers allowing for stewardship and conservation by private actors. Return National Parks to the States so that they can be better managed as smaller budget items.
2. Allow for industry to meet EPA standards by cost-effective innovation and repeal specific -control mandates and replace them with fines for violating pollution limits.
3. End environmentally destructive hydro-electric subsidies that encourage aquifer depletion and wetland destruction.
4. Allow for the commercial trade in endangered species to create profit incentive for recovering their numbers and relax rules requiring scientific research for the ownership of animal by zoos.
5. Ensure that regulations for protecting water and air from toxins apply equally to the agencies of the federal government as they do for private actors.
6. Increase fines for dumping in public spaces while decreasing the total acreage owned by any given agency and let private owners have a stake in protecting those resources through civil remittance.
7. Repudiate Kelo v. New London, which allows for eminent domain seizures for private use and expand the ability for property owners and communities affected by rails, dams or pipelines to sue for injunctions.

8. Repeal FEMA and NFIP compensation for coastal areas, deltas and floodplains that are too risky for private development by market-based insurance estimates, saving money, seashores and lives.
9. Repeal or greatly reduce tariffs and farm subsidies that protect intensive agricultural activities from market costs at the expense of aquifers and wetlands.
10. End all subsidies, tax-breaks and no-bid contracts for energy production or energy-saving products to let the market decide the value of green savings, increasing competition and quality.
11. Give property owners an incentive to care for protected species by justly compensating them for the loss of land usage under the rules of eminent domain for public use.
12. Support policies that are pro-economic growth allowing for greater demand for clean environments and a robust development of new green technologies.
13. Reform NRC regulation on nuclear power plants to reflect actual risks, replace the Linear Non-Threshold model for radiation risk assessment, raise ceilings on uranium production; lower the premiums for insurance by revaluating the actuarial risks and indemnifying overruns through public financing; and expedite the license process for new reactor designs and waste repositories.

Nice projecting
Your pessimism is lame and go fuck yourself
I can damn well say for sure you wouldn't say that to my face friend

>when did you realize

>ultimate redpill

>47% forest
>So nationalist that the russkis are mad and calling us fascists
>Even our current minority (slavs) despise foreigners exactly as much as us.
>Most atheist country in the world, *tips respectfully towards you*

F

>t seattle cuck shill

Its a great place, I'm new to the region and have lived all over the USA. Holy FUCK the PNW is reaching levels of cuckiness I could only imagine.

i have a shortcut

abolish government
keep only death squads annihilate all people who do harm to environment and which you fund by extortion money

Every time Cascadia is mentioned or a thread pops up about the hypothetical possibility a pessimistic shill always shows up.
I think the jew fears Cascadia

Warlord society and despotism. Already done. Shit sucked. Alexander the Based as p. based, tho.

I know. It's a shame that pig disgusting people get to soil the Holy soil

Are you fucking me? This sounds like Free-Trade but impose fines for fucking up to which I am totally fucking for.

I hate this hippy degenerate hell whole that Portland is.

Hope is not lost secede! I'm guessing that outside Seattle is more based.

Yeah. Most of WA and OR are red outside of Seattle, Portland and Eugene.

I live in the NW, none of the city niggers around here would last 5 minutes outside of King county.

Seriously the libtardation is real here. Mostly in the Portland, Salem, Eugene, Vancouver, Olympia, and Seattle area.

If America decides to split up and Balkanize I will probably be removing liberal to help secure a prominent and prosperous Cascadia.

FREE CASCADIA NOW!

(but fuck Portland and raze it to the ground)

Well yeah, niggers and slimes don't care about their neighborhoods being clean.
But liberals want more of them.

At worst we can "Hong Kong" the city and force it into economic deals that favor us.

Well it took me a while, I was always an "Environmentalist" kind of guy, not your liberal type but it's plain to see that we need to be Ecological in our societies or else our industry will seriously harm our natural habitat to the degree that economic recessions will not be survived.
Originally I was an "Anarcho-Primitivist" as an edgy teenager, because I could see that post-industrial revolution life results in mental disorders and perversion.
A return to manual farming implements, candle light and more humble living would reduce crime, strengthen families, and harden people to the realities and virtues of natural life on Earth.
I eventually began looking into different systems of government that resembled my "idea" of Anarchy, in order to discover what about the idea I really liked, and I realized that it had to do with making the Noble man free so the Noble man can be more Noble.
Through this I realized that Aristocracy is probably the best system of Government, but and Aristocratic class must also self govern, and in all seriousness, the Constitutional Republic of the United States really is the best system we've got.
The problem is we aren't Aristocratic enough, we allow way too much immigration and invest far too little into education, but all in all,
I'm an Ecological Traditionalist.
We need to connect our wild life preserves, and outlaw Organization of Subversive Ideologies like Communism, Feminism, LGBT, Black Power etc.
Every city should have a vast city park of a relative size, and the parks should be used for Community festivals, weddings, Funerals, other ceremonies sacred to the Community.
Stuff like that.
I'd say, after considering the process of my political discovery, I've been an Ecological Traditionalist at heart forever, but I only began expressing it to others when I was around 17.

Oregon is a goddamn wonderland we mostly banned niggers from living here until 1927. Fuck Portland though.

>environmentalism
>ever
there's no environmentalism anymore, Anunnaki gutted the Earth too much already, there's nothing we can preserve.

humans were always slaves.

Isaiah 14:8, 16 & 17
Psalms 82:1, 5 & 6

As long as we publicly hang Charlie Hales and Amanda Fritz from Portlandia's trident I'm OK with this.

They fear the NWF.
Which is more or less the same thing as Cascadia but honest.

Wind slaughtering birds. Hydro interrupting fish migrations.

A real right wing conservationist turns his lights off and reduces his consumption of power to a self sustaining level.

are you me?

one thing: never accept compromises
never be ok with republics
read about traditionalist school and perennialism
especially evola

ok its 3 things

lol i completely disagree

Haha, I know, even Americans didn't like the idea of having a Republic, Benjamin Franklin was especially opposed to it, but the point was for the Constitution to limit the power of the Republic so much that the people would not be impeded by it, ever.
Sad to say that's obviously not worked out well for us at all, but there's hope in restoring Constitutional harmony and I don't think I'd prefer living in any other country.
Evola is one of my favorite authors, and I like compromise, but true compromise with industiral fat cat earth rapists won't look anything like compromises if we take into consideration what they would need to compromise in order to even out the playing field.
I pray for the day Ecological laws are imposed in the USA, like Iceland, and the Netherlands.

>pro tesla
>green

teslas carbon footprint to make the batteries exceeds that of regular cars.

Oil and coal are going to run out sooner or later.
Why not look into alternative means that can be reliable produced domestically?
The solution might be fracking, or nuclear, or solar, or geothermal or whatever. Blinding picking one over the other isn't going to solve anything. They're all flawed and there will never be a perfect method that can produce enough energy to support modern living.
But some choices will be better than others and burying your heads in the sand won't make your pick any better.

Exodus is the ultimate red pill. Humans have outstayed our welcome on Earth. Anyone who disagrees is a capybara fucking luddite and should be exterminated before we leave.

About 6 years ago. Responsible, libertarian environmentalism is vastly superior to the left-wing tree huggers.

>Floridians sure love their publix
Same here in Georgia. It's sad when I visit friends in Ohio and have to settle for places like Kroger.

Fuck the environment. This thread is full of anti-industry communist cucks.

"Haha fuck factories and energy bruh we'll just import that shit from China and Saudi Arabia"

>I can't wait to live in a smoggy shithole like China
>I'll have to wear a gas mask to go outside, it'll be just like my post-apocalypse video games

Get your special snowflake bullshit out of here


The economy is 100% dependent on foreign oil.

The ultimate red pill is right wing capitalism

Yeah dude, we should just have hippie communes where everyone grows their own vegetables and weed and talks with animals all day, it's not like environmentalist policies have led to the Rust Belt and mass unemployment and foreign oil dependence!

They're probably the same Jews who push the "Alt-Right" bullshit trying to subvert us into thinking homosexuality and now environmentalism are somehow "right-wing".

NWF is a honeypot, I'm sure. They're to be avoided.
Oregon is indeed superb. I can't find much on it but I am positive the Jefferson said that there should / should be been a republic in the west. I believe if that's true and IRC he was referring to Oregon.
It's a fine deal. Portland will be like the reverse Danzig for liberals except it will suck balls.

There is nothing that can't be worked out amongst industry and conservation. At least, what I'm thinking of.

Capitalism is a jewish scam like communism
Usury, friendo.

CO2 is a pollutant you dumb nigger the more it piles up in the ocean the more its going to enter the oceans carbon cycle literally acidifying the sea leading to trophic collapse

NWF is a retarded idea. You'll have a microstate, half of which consists of disgustingly liberal hipsters, and the other half is a shithole semi-desert.

You imply those liberals will be there

What are you going to do, magic them away? They're the fucking (vast) majority.

This is the answer. Basically, take over all left causes and provide a solution that does not involve being a total faggot.

I took the green pill long ago, glad to hear some people on Sup Forums are waking up

Flood the a land with white right-wing types from all over like a reverse California. From there some would have to capitulate to overwhelming debate and pressure. After that, those that will retain their mindsets amidst reason and logic will probably leave. Others will shut up and grumble. Any that resist will be 'camped.
Hypothetically, speaking.

Fuck off Kiwi, I know your research universities can't compete with ours but that's no reason to be salty.

Also, this: Subvert and assume.

Just because people we don't like say stupid shit doesn't mean global warming isn't real

these are my favorite threads on Sup Forums and i'll explain why. Now that we are "popular" the shills will come . These threads hardly ever co-opted and when they are its obvious.

fucking normie invasion today, gimme a safe space

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I remember Ron Paul talking about this. Contaminating damages someone's property.

Literally earlier today.

Fascism is literally the only way to maintain our quality of life, save the environment, AND continue to progress as a race.

I'm study to work in Conservation

Environmentalism is only with objective principles and nationalism. You have to be extremely careful though of socialists who easily co-opt green movements.

A large number of people who got into my course are for human progress, but it's a damn shame how shunned they have been to conservative ideals by the ugly face of neoconservatives, whilst being drawn in by leftist trash who use anything to gain power.

watch this

studying*

only possible*

tired lads

Exactly. Pollution is a negative externality causing harm to a large number of third parties not involved in private transaction with the polluter. Pollution, particularly of the atmosphere and water, is essentially a large scale violation of the NAP. I don't get why most liberarians don't give a shit about this.

Greater Cascadia
I like you canuck friend

Eastern Sierras north of Bishop, CA should also belong

I love my state and don't want to move out, but I would love to live in a white ethnostate, can Arizona come?

The entire west is rightful Greater Cascadian clay.

>careful though of socialists who easily co-opt green movements.
Leftists have pretty much kidnapped the environmentalism banner, during decades. Unfortunately this has caused that many conservatives/traditionalists distance from it.

I've been working on reforestation campaigns and eco-friendly workshops to educate school kids on the matter, for a couple of years now.

Most of the time I work alone or just with a couple of redpilled fellow volunteers, but sometimes we come across the typical weedlover degenerate hippies.
We try to portray them as losers as much as possible in front of the kids.

No shit it does, it's no coincidence that conservation and conservative come from the same world. If you want to preserve the way of life you have to preserve the environment that sustained it.

Business interests AKA JEWS want to destroy the environment to make shekels.

Are you a proxyfag or actually el Salvadoran?

Why do these delusional fags even exist?

Are they so fucking cucked. that they seriously have to come up with these kind of fantasy shit on FUCKING Sup Forums?


Like wow. Thats why im glad i left that forever cucked part of the country.

ALL Sup Forums fags GO TO WASHINGTON! where you fucking belong

Hi BC Averlanche.

What like there isn't fantasy everywhere else here? Seriously? How about on Sup Forums, where Risk, Kek, repeating integers, and all sorts of other hypothetical shit is?
You are acting like a child, sir. You even type like one. So let me ask you, who the fuck are you to criticize?
>forever cucked part of country
>discussion of uncucking
>wow omg liek fantasy weirdos jeeez

you are ETERNALLY cucked. Ok get over it.

You have no fucking culture in that shit hole. The only thing people cared about there was. OOOH do you like working for microsoft? OOOH why not work for Boeing? or Amazon? Thats your fucking pathetic culture. Pure slavery to the companies. All at the same time having literal fags and trannies at work who will bitch and whine all fucking day about christianity and yet bow down and bend over to islam. The only way to save oyur precious "cascadia" is to fucking nuke it with all missles from russia.