Say Marvel Studios does Thunderbolts, and uses the OG Busiek run as the basis.
What if they kept the gimmicks & personalities, but used different villains? Something like: >Justin Hammer as MACH-1 >Abomination as Atlas >Leader/Shocker/Klaw as Techno >Nebula as Meteorite With Songbird being introduced in the movie itself as the MC.
There's always a chance we get the original villain characters before then, but giving them special treatment like that would defeat the point of them being Z-list nobody's that no-one suspects.
Jacob Roberts
These are all terrible.
How is nobody gonna suspect fucking Abomination? What the hell would Nebula even be doing on Earth, her power set doesn't even resembles Moonstone/Meteorite's.
Elijah Ramirez
I like your idea, but would it be really Thunderbolts?
Everybody saw Abomination fight Hulk in Harlem, Justin Hammer as MACH would have to become black which can justify changing an actor, none of the villains you mentioned would fill Techno's void and what the fuck would Nebula forget on Earth and hang around with this cavalcade of villains which can be best described as underwhelming to ok.
Blake White
I honestly think if they make a thunderbolts movie, they'd make it more similar to the ellis run.
And then Zemo has his master plan and messes everything up for the government.
Cameron Long
I still prefer my old idea that Abomination should be re-introduced as an ally.
The idea being that for one film, he would be taking orders and helping assisting the Avengers. The Avengers would hate to work with him and expecting a betrayal, but then he never did for the whole film. But at the end you realised that it is all about Abomination getting instated as a government agent by having positive PR made for him.
I genuinely think that the Thunderbolts must have a decent public image to start with. It would be silly to make them too blatantly evil. And the Abomination need the most amount of PR because people already fear the Hulk as it is.
Joshua Hernandez
That already happened with Absorbing Man in Agents of Shield.
Bentley Rogers
>That already happened with Absorbing Man in Agents of Shield. And? I stopped watching AoS after the first few episodes. And 100% the film staff don't care what the TV division had already done,
Blake James
Your loss.
Samuel Peterson
>How is nobody gonna suspect fucking Abomination? Holograms. >What the hell would Nebula even be doing on Earth We've got 3 movies to find out. >her power set doesn't even resembles Moonstone/Meteorite's. Space science. They were just examples, desu I expect Captain Marvel to introduce a female villain so Nebula was just a placeholder.
Evan Bailey
>And 100% the film staff don't care what the TV division had already done, Pretty much.
Only retards bring AoS shit into movie discussion.
Zachary Sanders
>ellis run.
>be me >Warren Ellis >write a cool Iron Man comic >it happens to be easily adaptable by just lifting he plot 1:1 >it gets adapted >it's shit because they just "adapted" it
I'm all for movies being different than the source, but this just boggles my mind? It may just be one of, if not the easiest arc in comics history to adapt and they didn't do it.
Camden Walker
Atlas should be the test subject to the Cross Particles that the HYDRA dude fled with in Ant-Man
Jonathan Murphy
Totally possible, yeah. Given where it is, though, I figured Ant-Man two would be a bit more cosmic in scope. And there's no clear place to fit in Beetle & Fixer, if you go with the originals.
Isaac Jenkins
Wouldn't Beetle fit into the Spider-Man movies? Doesn't even have to be the 2017 one as the second one is before IW Part 2.
Lucas Lopez
>they'd make it more similar to the ellis run. Isn't that just Suicide Squad tho? It'd still be lacking names.
Henry Allen
>There's always a chance we get the original villain characters before then, but giving them special treatment like that would defeat the point of them being Z-list nobody's that no-one suspects. Maybe Marvel ought to have thought of that before turning the franchise into a main antagonist bloodbath.
Asher Walker
The second one is 2 months after IW2. So still possible but cutting it reeeeeeal close for the sake of needless accuracy.
Honestly I figured he'd be in Homecoming for this very reason but they gave the jobber cameo to Shocker instead. Hence why I'm now wondering "maybe they'll just use Hammer?".
Levi Reyes
Thunderbolts aren't main antagonists anyway though. They're a bunch of literally-who career failures, none of them were even rogues gallery material. That's part of what made the reveal so devious.
Tyler Hughes
>none of the villains you mentioned would fill Techno's void Leader's smart, Shocker's got gadgets and Klaw looks vaguely similar. Killmonger's the main villain of BP, for all we know AoU was a red herring and he gets his pimped-out Vibranium arm specifically for the Techno gimmick.
Nathan Walker
Fuck off, retard.
Juan Thomas
Don't forget Batroc was in Winter Soldier. I can't think of anything else they'd use him for.
Colton Lee
I just remembered that Homecoming's also got Tinkerer in it. That's so much easier.
Hudson Brooks
...FUCK Homecoming's also got Vulture. What if he survives & becomes MACH-1? Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Lucas Bailey
I doubt Keaton will come back, but if he does, it will be for Sinister Six since Sony has such a huge boner for that and probably brings it up at every meeting with Feige.
Brayden Torres
He can be the Slipknot.
Lincoln Walker
Based Sony doing some good for once.
Carson Hill
Fuck you. Batroc deserves better.
Blake Ward
What it they introduce Beetle and Screaming Mimi in Ant-Man & Wasp just for the sake of having a villain couple
Zachary Jackson
>people go into Ant-Man & Wasp expecting Infinity Gauntlet hype >it's just them chasing super-powered Bonnie & Clyde for 2 hours
Asher Howard
>How is nobody gonna suspect fucking Abomination?
glasses, it worked with clark kent.
Easton Barnes
I fully want it.
Joshua Barnes
There's no fucking Thunderbolts movie
Disney would never have time to produce it, let's be real. Inhumans got pushed to the back burner for like 5 years until they decided they were never going to be able to make it so they handed it off to ABC to do a television series instead
There won't be Thunderbolts. They'll be busy making sequels to Spider-Man, Mister Doctor, Ant-Man, etc
Matthew Murphy
Are you fully aware of the circumstances surrounding Inhumans, good user?
Cooper Parker
Thunderbolts already has a great basis for a trilogy. I see no reason to mess with it.
>TBolts1 Zemo leads. OG Busiek story-based.
>TBolts2 Hawkeye leads? If not, Songbird leads. Nicieza run.
>TBolts3 Osborn vs Songbird.
Michael Robinson
That's what people said about Marvel Studios since forever.
Then GotG came out. Then Doctor Strange, Black Panther and Captain Marvel.
It's not going to be all sequels user, let's be real here.
Parker Gomez
>Then GotG came out. Then Doctor Strange, Black Panther and Captain Marvel.
Black Panther and Captain Marvel haven't come out yet. What are you talking about?
Ryan Barnes
Feige said a new IP for every 2 sequels. Phase 4 has two confirmed sequels (Spider-Man 2, GotG3)
Andrew Carter
His argument is that all we will see in future movies is sequels when it's pretty clear there will always be something new every phase.
Isaac Perez
That's a new one. Don't suppose you have a source link? I believe you but'd like the full context.
Cooper Powell
Feige says a lot of things. Then he changes his plans when he sees an opportunity to make more money. When he got Spider-Man, shit got pushed back. When Ant-Man became a hit, shit got pushed back for a sequel.
Nothing Kevin "Fuckboy" Feige says should be taken as accurate, because he'll switch it around however he pleases to make more money for the mouse
Jacob Ross
His argument also ignores the fact that nobody on the movie side ever wanted to make Inhumans in the first place and deliberately bumped it off the schedule.
Jacob Bennett
>nobody on the movie side ever wanted to make Inhumans in the first place and deliberately bumped it off the schedule.
>implying the movie people want Thunderbolts
Jack Jones
>implying anyone wanted GotG Now they want it.
Disney knows they can let Marvel do whatever the fuck they want because the audience eats whatever Marvel shits at them.
James Nelson
Gunn wants
Leo Perez
Examples? I feel like you're referencing something specific. Or did you seriously think he wanted to do Inhumans? Gunn openly does. That's at least one movie people. And enough higher ups were convinced that Zemo should be kept alive, despite the character literally trying to kill himself. He's also last seen in the custody of Thaddeus "THUNDERBOLT" Ross, no less.
Brody Nguyen
>Mister Doctor
Fucking kek
Lincoln Cook
Marvel doesn't have villains. The idea of a villain team made by Marvel is laughable.
Chase Turner
They've got laughable villains. Which is Busiek Thunderbolts' bread & butter.
Wyatt Price
Also if this is a console wars thing you can't really talk when Suicide Squad was a debuting cast of 60% literally whos.
Brandon Martinez
The only classic Thunderbolt that wasn't a joke was Zemo
Levi Thomas
SUicide Squad was about characters who were onown for being in the Suicide Squad, since it was an adaptation of a comic property.
Thunderbolts would just be a slapped together mess of half-written characters, like all Marvel villains.
Nathaniel Butler
...Thunderbolts is a comic property property as well, you realize. And, get this: since they'd be the main characters, they'd actually get written like main characters. By your own logic, the guy most at risk of being "slapped together" is whoever the story's own antagonist is.