>that literally perfect acting and those comprehensible dialogues >that unconventional and fresh writing for this kind of movie >that filmography
The characters were so good that I was like "wow, that's exactly how I would act" every 10 minutes, like when Tim Roth eats the baguette I was like "hm, no, I think someone couldn't eat in this situation" and then he spits it out.
Most entertaining movie this decade. And since it's essentially German, it actual KINO.
It just doesn't feel the same without that unique German autism.
Brandon Hughes
>its not as good as the book. fuck off
Leo Butler
I really wish Haneke had not put those retarded grindcore songs into it but it's vastly superior to his original version of the film
Aiden Diaz
Both films are by Haneke
Logan Morgan
english-language version is automatically better because of Watts, Roth, and Pitt.
Blake Nguyen
>the book It's not a book, friend, it's a movie of which this movie was a shot for shot remake made by the same director with Americans in it because the message was meant for America and American audiences wont watch movies unless they have Americans in them because they can't understand accents speaking English other than American and they don't want to read subtitles because that's too much effort
Henry Cook
>Haneke is so autistic he legitimately thinks people watch horror movies to empathize with the murderers Jesus Christ
Grayson Anderson
Not horror movies, but violence in movies in general. And yes, people do enjoy watching violent movies, face it. It's pretty much indisputable. People love violence in movies. Any given mainstream movie is a coinflip away from being a movie in which there are several violence scenes.
Austin Rogers
>being this fucking retarded.
he was making fun of the "hurr durr tha book wuz better" crowd. moron.
Jace Nelson
t. virgin
Jason Powell
And? They don't do anything because of that so whats the problem? Unless you are saying the movies lead to actual violence then I guess you could say the same for sex in movies and shows.
Asher Morris
To be honest, I don't really know. I personally have no issue with violence in movies. I love a good violent movie. Haneke wrote an essay on it to accompany the film, so if you really want to know what he was trying to say I'd just go read that. I think it has something to do with commercial media being a mirror for the desires of the general populace, which would kind of imply a scary bloodlust in the average human being given that such a huge percentage of our media is so violent.
Jordan Young
>Grosses Kino
what did he mean by this?
Connor Robinson
I don't understand Americans don't liking subtitles, burgers are pathetic some times
Juan Robinson
>generation of desensitized borderline sociopaths >still trying to claim such movies don't have an harmful effect on society just like promoting gay shit and other stuff
Charles Lee
DUDE it's bad that you watch torture porn movies, feel guilty yet LMAO
Haneke should stick to movies about how African migrants are better than native Europeans.
Parker Brown
subtitles are for third worlders and insignificant countries of course you don't understand
they also ruin the aesthetic of the movie
Jason Taylor
If he has problems with violence in movies why did he make films like Benny's Video, Cache and Le Pianiste? They are actually more perverse and disturbing than torture porn or whatever violent movies (like Pulp Fiction, maybe?).
Aaron Long
t. brainlet
Jordan Allen
Shush retard, you can't even form a real argument other than memes.
Matthew Rodriguez
I can believe pitt beating up and handling a man with a club but not that skinny twink
Cameron Sullivan
>I don't understand Americans don't liking subtitles Quite hilarious actually, considering Germans at least are far less likely to tolerate subtitles, instead preferring films to be dubbed, which is completely gone from Americans theaters aside from anime.
Anthony Lewis
>animal that evolved as a tribalistic predator is inherently violent really meks u think
Jace Campbell
ok brainlet
Jose Gutierrez
I have no idea dude, I'm not Haneke. I don't even agree with his stance.
>moron that defends subtitles >calling others brainlet
Jordan Nguyen
>can't even read
face it, you're a brainlet
Lucas Bell
cowboy movies and stories were violent and often glorified murderous criminals (billy the kid, jesse james) but they had some adventurous aspect to it, but if you go back a couple thousand years the ancient myths were more brutal and graphically violent than anything nowadays, so I don't know if I would say we degenerated(neither that that culture degenerated since they were myths and not entertainment actively constructed stories and they didn't have 1% of the brutality of war that we've seen) but defenitely there's a underlying bloodlust in mankind I pulled this out of my ass in the moment so don't start a shitfest if you disagree
Owen Roberts
'People like movies with violence' is a completely different statement than 'people like movies with violence because they like to identify with serial killers'. Haneke just conflates the two and then tries to blame his audience for his equivocating bullshit.
Lincoln Gomez
and russians prefer a monotone voice over over subtitles, what is wrong with them
Jason Powell
t. oblivious retard
Dylan Perry
His opinions are that he's a righteous moral preacher and his movies are good because they're moral, unlike those violent movies other people make that are immoral because he didn't make them.
Landon Gomez
ok whatever you need to believe bud lol stay strong
Christian Fisher
>trying this hard to have the last word
Anthony Brooks
HE WILL NOT DIVIDE US
Nathaniel Jones
I'm surprised you're even bothering to keep replying, seems out of character for a borderline illiterate brainlet who hates reading
don't you have some funny picture movies with farts in to watch
Christian Russell
>father can't defend his family from a skinny kid >lets them get too close by being too agreeable and polite >write a charismatic and entertaining villain more likable than the family >from the beginning you already know the family is kill wtf was I supposed to feel guilty? the egg thing annoyed me a little but beyond that I was completely detached from the family
Bentley Bell
>you must hate reading if you are not a pleb that defends subtitles >this is what retards actually think
Julian Sullivan
not an argument brainlet
Thomas Garcia
>even more meme responses >calls others brainlet L M A O
Lucas Gomez
Well yes, the entire movie is sort of written around the idea that you want the family to win and have a happy ending, and the denial of that desire. So yeah you're probably just autistic lol.
Logan Russell
I am calling you a brainlet, I'm glad you're picking up on that
Liam Brooks
I know, I have called you out on being a retard with no argument since the second post.
Jackson Hall
congratulations on having followed the conversation so far captain brainlet, I'm impressed
Josiah Thompson
>oh cool a haneke thread >people arguing about subtitles :(
Zachary Foster
It's just one retard that got triggered for being called out so has been spamming "brainlet" since then.
Caleb Fisher
Haneke knows his shit. One of the best directors alive imo.
David Wilson
lol faggot
Parker Thompson
The killers literally say several times over that they're doing what the audience wants. Either Haneke legitimately believes people watch horror movies to identify with the sadistic killers or he's projecting his own miserable sadism onto everyone else.
Daniel Garcia
Watch the austrian original, it's basically the same movie I still prefer the original.
Ryder Wright
I'm German and no thanks, not even trying it. German people are always r-selected, awkward, uncomfortable cucks.
Jaxon Flores
>grosses kino Is it... dare I say it...
Xavier Long
>Haneke should stick to movies about how African migrants are better than native Europeans. What movie is this and what makes you believe that's the message?
I refuse to believe that EVERY European is a cuck. Please leave me Haneke.
Daniel Adams
The killers literally suggest that the audience wants the family to win.
Camden Long
Can't you guys understand that you are supposed to just EXPLOIT? How does it matter if the people behind something are retarded fags when they provide something for you? Understand that even retards can do good things and stop trying to idolize everyone.
I'm sure even Lady Gaga made a good song, even though I don't know it. I'm sure there is one.
Juan Cruz
>not raping Watts Unrealistic.
At least her son is a sissified little tranny just like in real life.
Adam Davis
lady gaga is pretty rad as far as pop goes desu
Thomas Wood
Now watch this
Benjamin Wilson
that user probably means Cache, the main conflict is meant to parallel the Paris massacre of 1961.
Jacob James
Only a few languages sound good to the ear. German is not one of them.
Lucas Phillips
>dubbed >completely gone from Americans theaters Seriously? Why?
Michael Hernandez
>The killers literally say several times over that they're doing what the audience wants
Because by the act of going to see the movie where a nice family gets hurt then turns it around and beats the bad guy you're implying you want to see them suffer for a while, you went into this knowing the family would suffer and you sat down to watch it anyway, despite wanting the family to win, because you're happy to see awful things happen as long as the bad guy gets whats coming to him in the end.
Blake Reyes
why does the director get away with making the same movie twice?
Caleb Torres
cash and clout my dude
Ryder Hall
Michael Pitt is literally the best thing in the US version. German version doesn't come close except the wife in the German version is cuter
Ryan Perry
>German people are always r-selected, awkward, uncomfortable cucks. That's the whole point of the movie you fucking mongoloid
Juan Scott
agreed, Pitt is perfect for the role (though I disagree that Susanne Lothar (RIP) is cuter than Naomi Watts)