There is a juggalo rapper who seems to be based on him
Dominic Young
Why is Voodoo such a cool concept which I never see outside of really hokey stuff?
Easton Diaz
...
Jonathan Ross
I wish this movie had been a lot better.
Alexander King
Because it's restricted entirely to parts of Central America and the American Southeast. Not many stories take place there, ergo not many stories can justify having it in use.
Carter Lopez
Female Facilier?
Would you want her to keep the tooth-gap and slight paunch?
Jackson Rogers
needs more tits
if you are going to make fanfiction, do it properly
Grayson Bennett
Great villain, smart spin on the fairytale, memorable cahracters and beautiful.
This movie filed killed all hope for 2D animation because it was so fucking good yet nobody saw it.
Ethan Powell
I could listen to Keith David sing forever and not get bored.
Turbo/King Candy was good but had nowhere near as much pressence or charm.
Meanwhile, Gothel, Hans, Yokai, and Bellweather were bland pieces of shit and the crab in Moana sadly was just a miniboss forgotten after his sequence. Same thing with the lava god just being personality-less a final boss.
Carter Martin
God, I hate small hats
Logan White
That's a deal I will take
Blake Gutierrez
The thing about Hans and Bellweather was that they weren't revealed as villains until the climax, so they really only had a few minutes to be fullu villainous
Jackson Evans
>Based on him You know voodoo is an actual thing in the real world, right?
Hunter Scott
>MFW TPATF is one of the 99% likely worlds to get into Kingdom Hearts 3.
Hopefully Facilier's boss battle will be epic as shit, seeing that unlike those harmless pieces of shit Facilier can be a genuine threat.
Luis Garcia
God, I LOVE smol hats
Blake Davis
I wish Clopin were a full-time villain like in the book
wat, he scored? it must be before the movie takes place
...so, he's an absent father
Isaiah Gray
Also that Gothel was wasted potential: The villain (We could've gotten a conflicted relationship between her and Rapunzel like Jim and Silver in Treasure Planet where Gothel is torn between being a greedy bitch and caring for Punzey but nope. fuck all complex shit.) and Yokai had 0% personality whatsoever.
Anthony Anderson
Just chalk it up to AU the decendants stuff stops making sense when Southern Genie genie shows up.
Zachary Bennett
Still trying to figure out what the middle fucker's eyes are made out of.
It's like a pop top.
Andrew Nelson
Those eyes bug me.
Those aren't "oh shit, oh shit, i'm fucked" eyes, those are "whoa dude, it's kicking in" eyes.
Jason Torres
Fuck everyone. TPATF was the last REEEEAAAALlY good Disney movie or at least renaissance-tier.
-Strong heroine who actually gets shit done despite all the shit thrown at her. -Strong moral that toys with Disney tropes (The "charming" prince is a lazy douchebag who constantly relies on the heroine, the discussion that even if you wish upon a star, you still have to work to get your wish to come true.). -Unique early 1900s New Orleans setting. -GOAT soundtrack (Fuck you I loved "Going Down the Bayou"). -Disney's last really really good villain. -The goofy comic relief actually amounts to something. -Tiana's totally based white friend. -Glorious 2D animation (I actually feel like crying whenever I see behind the scenes stuff.)
Andrew Howard
Voodoo is also an actual religion and most people are a little leery of pissing off practitioners. It should also be noted that a lot of what is presented as Voodoo is actually hoodoo, Southern US folk magic, a completely different thing.
Juan Garcia
Dig a Little Deeper is one of the best goddamn Disney songs ever.
Robert Sanchez
>Facilier's boss battle fuck, I can already picture an American McGee's Alice from that The guy being all jazzy, throwing around voodoo's, hoodoos and things he ain't even tried
Henry Martinez
I felt the movie would have been better off it Facilier had dragged Lawrence down with him or used his soul and gotten off scott free as he fled town to practice elsewhere.
Kayden Powell
this
Christopher Peterson
>absent father >bla=)
Aaron Kelly
I imagine Facilier being fought either:
-Him running around the graveyard and disappearing through the shadows trying not to get hit similar to Barbossa and Oogie Boogie in 2 as he summons Heartless and shadows with you having to figure out where he is.
-He sends Sora and co. to some trippy voodoo dimension influenced by his song where he quickly moves around throwing stuff a la The Magic Mirror in BBS.
Jack Kelly
>It doesn't even bother me all the "nothing personal kid, I just a have a nihilistic, wicked sense of humor" Wow really? So if a villain isn't Dr Doom "2deep4yu" then he's some super edgy cartoon character?
Noah Cooper
>Strong heroine who actually gets shit done despite all the shit thrown at her I swear I'm not always that guy... but she was too much of a Mary Sue Her only mistake was working too much, and in the end it payed off wtf
Her struggle was relatable, but the film tried to hard to make it sound a bad thing
imo, it would have been great if she became a greedy bitch and screwed everyone up by taking the shadowman's offer, become human and actually see the restaurant fully refurbished and the deeds in her hands. And THEN cry a "I'm sorry father" and steal and break the talisman also, it was shitty how she as a frog could beat Facilier
If she doesn't loose her soul, then she's not greedy, just hard-working
Kayden Kelly
It's a good moral because it's not one you see very often.
Tiana was legit working too hard. For workaholics, it's about as hard for them to relax and appreciate life as it is for slackers to work.
Bentley Murphy
god, I just know it will never live up to its full potential Thinking of all the shadowplay alone makes me moist
is there any Facilier and his Shadow doujin? just curious
I know, I just feel it doesn't come across as such a terrible personality flaw as it was portrayed in the film maybe it's just me getting old and wanting to "take off" once and for all, but I always hated the "lol u dont know how to fun" rethoric
Kayden Kelly
That's a deal I will take.
Noah Perez
Facilier had both.
Cameron Taylor
Your vore fetish is showing.
Caleb Green
that's a deal i will take.
Julian Phillips
He had things he ain't even tried.
Asher King
Maybe you just like those "nothing personal kid, I just have a nihilistic, wicked sense of humor" types, but have seen them done so poorly so often that a different take on it reminds you of what you like about the concept?
Mason Gonzalez
Voodoo doll heartless
Isaiah Gomez
What would the rest of the cast look like?
Jaxon Wood
How the fuck do you do it Sup Forums?
How the fuck do you have constant discussion of minority characters without Sup Forums taking the threads over?
And when they do try, you all just...ignore them.
What is it about this board that makes it so Sup Forums proof? Are comics truly the patrician medium?
Luke Roberts
>comics
Gabriel Torres
yeah, probably
>Sup Forums proof >He wasn't here for Korragedon, or during GG
Andrew Hall
It's fucking crazy how easily this dude could be in Kingdom Hearts III. His minions are basically heartless.
Jaxson Morris
It's crazy how that "dude" is a dude, because he looks like a tomboy girl who's asshole i'd eat
Juan Taylor
I meant Facilier but you do that user
Levi Walker
>wat, he scored?
No, that's what his friends on the other side did to him after dragging him to hell, they turned him into a cute loli and them spit him back out. He wasn't ready.
Wyatt Wood
PATF is certain to get in. One of the few remaining "profilic" 2D films with Jungle Book, Pocahontas (With Squenix can get past the possible lawsuits.), and possibly Emperor's New Groove. At the very least Facilier and Tiana will make appearances.
Hell I know it's getting into KH3. Last year a few weeks after 3's trailer I broke into Keith David's house to ask him and he told me "yeah, I've already been signed with Squenix and am in the middle of recording lines".
Though then he shot me in my right shoulder with his shotgun for breaking into his house, and now I probably won't be able to play 3 properly. Fuck.
Ayden Morris
What's ironic is that Tracer from Overwatch kinda resembles Sora in drag, and she's a confirmed lesbian.
Ryan Brown
You don't come to Sup Forums a lot I see.
Benjamin Carter
My one gripe with Facilier was that he was really just a pawn cowering in fear over the beings he should have been controlling completely. Can you imagine if Scar had been visibly terrified of the hyenas and tried to placate them all the time? It really undermined him. He was perfect otherwise.
Matthew Bennett
>whenever there's a female version of a male character, they never have male character's charm Really makes you think
Hudson Perez
It's part of the reason I gave Diablo III a pass. Witch Doctor was just so fun
Jaxon Scott
That's a deal I will take
Jonathan Perry
Sup Forums doesn't tolerate tumblr's shit either. Both of them get tossed out like angry drunks when they try to start their shit.
Ayden Ramirez
It's because they're afraid to make female characters unrepentant assholes
Joshua Cruz
It's because most of us don't care outside of waifus and nonstalgiafagging and neither of those like Sup Forums or /tumblr/ very much
Steven Universe is an exception because HOO BOY do those threads get heated
Hudson Butler
>That Facilier reference in Moana Funny how that character was ALSO the best character in his film
Landon Gomez
But that's what made it so interesting, and stand out in my eyes He wasn't just a powerful wizard evil for the sake of it, he was a resentful peddler with no real power of his own He was playing with forces he was deadly scared of because of his high ambitions, and he wanted others to pay the cost
I like the how it went down, because it wasn't "oh, my power source destroy, I'm melting", or ironic death by his own evilness They agreed to help him, but they were never his "friends" He hadn't sold his soul, he just pawned it, and couldn't pay back for it
Isaiah Martinez
What reference
Dominic Williams
His song sucked.
But then expecting anything good from nuD*sney is a bit of a stretch in the first place.
Nolan Russell
I dont want her to be anymore of an ass than any other princess. Her working too hard to the point where she becomes antisocial is a flaw.
Benjamin Roberts
Kek, you haven't seen enough. Look at comics threads with multiethnic legacy characters
Isaac Hughes
>It really undermined him. He was perfect otherwise.
No, that's stupid. His character was interesting because he was a conman trying to scheme his way out of hell. Making him have authority over the voodoo spirits would've just made him into another generic villain.
Cooper Smith
>the least popular Disney movie of the last 10 years is likely to get into KH3 Keep dreaming.
Andrew Jenkins
But if Sora beats him people will cry that it's racist that a white dude like Sora did the black villain in. Then they'll complain that Heartless are black and shit....fuck political correctness. You have a better chance of seeing Gigantic in KH3.
Jonathan Reed
>"nothing personal kid" how was he like this at all? hes more classy than edge
Ryder Kelly
>or used his soul and gotten off scott free as he fled town to practice elsewhere. That's dark and I'd have been ok with that if as a result he had to work his way back into grace with the Friends. Like he tries to do something fancy and kaput so he runs off ending with him getting his shadow to move as a seperate entity again.
Owen Mitchell
It was supposed to be a parallel to Tanya with how she works hard and makes her own money and doesn't take handouts or loans so she won't be in dept. Facilier's "friends" were loan sharks so while he got his powers they wanted something from him witch he did not meet so they took him as payment.
Asher Bailey
Buuuuuullcrap. Sup Forums INHALES bait without even chewing, especially if it has anything LOOSELY to do with SJWs.
Chase Russell
That's neither ironic nor at all related to the discussion.
Nathan Russell
really though, who Doesn't love a good "nothin personel kid" character that is portrayed an written well
Blake Cook
>Would you want her to keep the tooth-gap and slight paunch? Obviously.
Michael Myers
That's a deal I will take
Evan Gonzalez
This is too caucasian.
Jace Wilson
>you all just...ignore them Sometimes threads have been derailed over one faggot thinking they would be invaded by Sup Forums. You and I aren't helping here, so let's not speak of this any further.
Connor Cox
Moana is just as good.
Christian Hill
ARE YA READY?
Ethan Brooks
>The "charming" prince is a lazy douchebag who constantly relies on the heroine If you think about it, Naveen is one of the only princes with personality.
Luke Murphy
>And when they do try, you all just...ignore them. I wish, this board has become a battleground for tumblr kids and Sup Forums faggots to sling shit at one another. Have you ever visited an SU or brown girl thread before?
Juan Gray
Yeah, he's more of a flamboyant con artist with magic than your typical edgy dark sorcerer. Sort of like Hades from Hercules (imagine those two as partners or rivals, that would be fun to see).
Logan Thompson
>hes more classy than edge he's not not edgy, but I can just picture people on comic-con pulling mad-hatter-tier cringe costumes
Liam Rivera
>Look buddy, homie, mon Frey or whatever they say in that bog town of yours. Your tricks are cute, but they're Busch league. Me I'm the majors. The Big Leagues. You take out tiny loans you need to repay. Me I own the Bank. So don't tell me about your friends.I know your friends they like me better than you.
Cooper Robinson
>Naveen is one of the only princes with personality well fuck me, it's true pitty he was a shithead
nice, this works, I just don't see the context for Hades to even talk to him
Justin Russell
It *is* hokey. A lot of it was just exaggerated entertainment by writers like Robert Tallant. My cartoon is set in New Orleans and it's /x/ as fuck, but Voodoo isn't even a plot point because of how much of it is manufactured bullshit instead of actual spooky stuff taken from my culture's lore.
It's like why none of the Cartoon Saloon movies have leprechauns even though they're about Celtic mythology.
Easton Butler
Its like /his/. It has good days and bad days. More good than bad, that's cool.
But maybe that's because /his/ is full of detached scholar elitists who can easily debunk anything the common rabble over at Sup Forums throws at it.
Dominic Campbell
>"least popular Disney movie"
Kingdom Hearts has a track record of using a cult classic movie as one of their worlds. Nightmare Before Christmas' surge in popularity happened after KH1's release, and if I remember correctly the inclusion of Tron and its reception assisted Tron Legacy's resurgence.
Song of the South or Black Cauldron are movies less likely to be seen in a KH game. PatF has a stunning chance to be used in comparison.
Jason Anderson
Our janitors sometimes do their jobs. Thanks for everything mods, you're often underappreciated.
Also, Threads do periodically get taken over, but we're usually just here to talk about how good cartoons are / were. It's not a field of discussion that usually mixes with politics directly, and when it does we're lucky enough to stick to more or less germane statements as opposed to "LEL POO IN LOO GAS TEH KIKES" shitposting.
>Nightmare Before Christmas' surge in popularity happened after KH1's release Not really, Disney didn't even put their own logo on Nightmare Before Christmas back in the day, Disney only acknowledged it as one of their properties after they realized goths were buying merch of it in the late 90s, Kingdom Hearts pretty much came right after that
Adam Taylor
>juggalo rapper Holy shit, that's still a thing, I thought they died out in the earlier 2000s
Kevin Martin
Just skim the parts with the frogs in the swamp and watch all the facilier scenes, it's so much better
Jose Fisher
They wasted him. He must have had 10 minutes of screentime, tops.
Who the fuck wants to see a stupid trumpet playing alligator or a firefly making butt jokes when you've got a character this fucking cool.
Goddamn it, Disney.
Joseph Thompson
Then you'd have to get onto the whole should selling and actual evil parts, main reason you can't expand on a good villian