>A law has just been voted in with a majority of 75 against 74 parliament votes in the Netherlands that makes ALL citizens donor automatically unless you register otherwise
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REEEEEE this goes against our Founding Fathers liberty principles and Free Republican history! totally wrong
Groningen secession when?
What's wrong with this? The moment you are completely dead you own nothing.
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This is a really good idea. There's a shortage of organs, and it's pretty awkward for doctors to ask relations of a kid who just died if they want to donate. You can still opt out if you're a jehovahs witness or whatever anyway
Just unregister you massive faggot.
And?
It's not like you're going to use your liver when you're rotting in the ground
That's a good thing. We have it here in Wales. Only Christfags will object. If you don't like it opt out.
I don't care about giving my organs after I die If I could choice to who my organs would be donated.
I don't want libcucks living because they received my organs
Can we have your liver?
Because they might just let you die and not bother to save you, for your organs....
You may not have a concept of a "will" in the nation of holland where the sun never shines and the sky is always black, but in more civilized lands a common practice is to distribute the possessions of the dead to those who are still living according to their wishes, not to assume that it's a free for all because "they dead lol"
>don't resuscitate him., the governors son needs a heart transplant.
Hahahahahahahahahahahah you did this to yourself.
>willingly giving away your liberty to the state
stay cucked, I'm moving to Texas, Wyoming or Alaska
This desu.
>he was legally dead and therefore possessed nothing
Welcome to the future common law legal reasoning
Lol, just lol.
They are gonna let you die to give your organs to a very sick person who also might not survive. Yea that sounds as logic and not something your fat trash dad/uncle screamed across the room.
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>werkt voor een meme partij
>komt te laat opdagen
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Come to South Dakota. We'd love to have you. Up by Brookings there's a town with a bunch of ranchers that speak Dutch fluently for some reason.
Unlike your greedy corrupt as fuck nation, we have guidelines for thing like this that actually get followed. Your corrupt system allows mr. Rothschild to have his third heart.
The organs are shared in a special program with other nations to make sure you dont get rejections. That reminds me, you guys all dont know shit about this stuff ofcourse.
The organs are giving to the donor with the highest score. Score is gained from having matching HLA types. Having a full match or a 4/5 match gives insane score and a hospital would have to explain a lot of stuff if it doesnt go to that person. You cant just give any organ to xxrichperson. The organ would die.
>moving to Texas
I implore you to reconsider. All there is here is cactus, desert, and Mexicans. Any positives that you have ever heard about us are lies propagated by the Texas government in an attempt to cling to life.
You will find nothing but pain, poverty, and despair here. It's too late for us here but the least I can do is to tell you to fuck off before you make the worst mistake of your life.
No thanks are necessary, just move to California instead.
>toothpaste this far into denial
What part of "you're dead, it's not yours" don't you understand?
Your body is not you after you're dead senpai, it's just meat
I am still waiting for that Greencard.
>toothpaste
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I'd legalise euthanasia too.
Nice try organ dealer.
And it's not property of the state either.
This will ease up the ''cut-open-the-body-now'' principle, while the person may still have possibility for life. It will morally justify it to hasten the process which is bad. Also, if there are more organs available, it will decrease gentech development and stemcell laboratory organ development. Scarcity is one of the reasons why we have achieved so much...scarcity + demand = innovation
I am going to un register for this bullcrap now.
Texas was a meme, I want a colder state desu, but I am still waiting for that greencard. I hope Trump will ease European immigration to the US
Wow the Chinese and Arabs are going to love this.
Can the person responsible for you when you're in critical condition (forgot the name for it) de-register you as you're dying?
If yes, I see no problem with this.
If no, I still don't see much of a problem with this. Big fucking deal. You can still opt out, but it does do a very good service in removing the emotional part of organ donorship. Basically when you die your relatives and such are in grief and don't want a doctor harvesting your organs for someone else, so they never offer and refuse if offered. This way you're preventing emotional crap from impacting a very practical decision.
And again, if you mind so much you fucking de-register. They're not forcing you to do it.
Dutch Minister of Health was quoted to say, “Muslims in particular refuse to donate their organs for religious reasons. However, they are ready to receive such organs if they fall sick … This does not hold for an incidental Muslim but for a substantial group”
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Wait a second, something like this was in place like 15 years ago. I remember my parents talking to me about it when I was a kid.
So are you against inheritance too, since you are dead you shouldn't be able to decide who gets what
The eternal muslim leech.
who would want inbred organs though?
>A law has just been voted in with a majority of 75 against 74 parliament votes in the Netherlands that makes ALL citizens donor automatically unless you register otherwise
Well, just like the socialists did or wanted to do a few years ago ...
>things that have never ever happened and will never ever happen
Same thing in Belgium
Would you accept your parents saying "actually, fuck those worse off then us, dump all our valuables in the ground and bury us with them", whereafter everything they have of worth is promptly covered with earth and you'll face life in jail for trying to dig it up?
This has been the law in my country for decades.
Nobody is getting my organs.
>Being the state's property
Exactly, why would we copy a third world country.
If anyone tries to guilt trip you into organ donation just reply you'll sign up on the proviso only whites will receive what's left of you.
I'll never understand why the right suddenly flips its shit on inconsequential issues. This sort of behaviour sets us back immensely.
You can still just register to not be a donor instead of the other way around. You have lost no freedom except the freedom of sitting on your ass for the ten minutes it takes to remove yourself from the registry.
You know what I would do? I would move everyone who is not a donor straight to the bottom of every waiting list. Oh, you don't want to give your organs away? Well, then you're not getting anything but leftovers, either. And that would work great, because muslims are rarely ever donors. Because of their shitty religion.
So why the fuck are you cucks suddenly taking the side of muslims?
>You know what I would do? I would move everyone who is not a donor straight to the bottom of every waiting list.
That seems fair, why is it not like this anyway?
If you're not willing to share your shit, why should anyone share with you?
scarcity of organs = demand
demand = innovation in laboratory stem cell organ growing
Organ harvesting is primitive and outdated. We can and should grow organs in laboratories. It needs more funding.
that's how I justify it
Some faggots here dont what organ donor means:
- afaik you have to braindead, so they can butcher your still working ogans out
- you donor them, but transplant them is a big business
- only few hospitals do transplantation or can store them, so a huge pontential of donors is wasted, because they are in the wrong hospital
- its not fair and share, there was a big scandal some years ago in Germany, there were preferred receivers
>why is it not like this anyway?
My bet: Because it would disadvantage muslims. Just like every other time their personal choice to live according to a backwards set of rules is considered more important than simple logic.
I'm pretty sure there's a lot of funding going to that. I recall something about growing organs in pigs, and stuff like that is being done already. Of course, the muslims also will not like that.
Why do we even accommodate these people? Just like with the fucking Jehova's Witnesses who don't believe in blood transfusion. Like... how? How is that shit a bad thing? That's Masai "camera's steal your soul" tier bullshit. Yet when they get surgery, people take effort to respect their bullshit.
All this insanity just stifles progress. It's the ultimate irony that it's the "progressives" who are its staunchest defenders.
Then you are still free to take yourself off the list.
i support removing the option to opt out
but really anyone who thinks this is a bad thing can go fuck themselves, i hope they die needing a kidney transplant in a hospital when in the next bed someone dies of brain cancer with plenty of organs intact, but then they have to bin entire body because "MUH FEELINGS"
Could your country at least ATTEMPT to have real problems?
Everyone ITT should instead donate their body to medical science.
Not only does it save more lives than being a donor but there's always the chance of being resurrected as some kind of undead superhuman.
So better hand it to some BLM's nigger or some """ex"""-ISIS militant instead?
Nobody is complaining about giving away organs voluntarily to someone you or your relatives approve, but to whom those organs will go, since it's the State who will decide.
We have real problems but te politicians just choose to ignore them because they are afraid to take them on.
I would support people having a say in who their organs go to.
I'd definitely cross muslims off the list, on account of their appealing donor percentage.
You haven't seen the way bodies become the toys of med students. You'll be giving handjobs and getting stuff pushing up your anus for the next 15-20 years until you're literally falling apart. After that the uni/lab will simply dump you in some trash can.
>I would support people having a say in who their organs go to
Exactly.
I don't want my organs going to some "reformed" gangmember, nigger, muslim or leftist in general.
I wouldn't mind giving it to children (no black or muslim children, since they'll simply grow up and become exactly like their parents) or someone who has something to do with his life, a reason to live for; I'd need my family to decide this last one for me.
Signing up someone you trust to make the call would be the best way, probably. No need to get into lists that people can whine about. Just a reasonable option for reasonable people. I mean, you can pick apart the suggestion of lists with race and religion as being insensitive. You can't do the same with appointing a personal guardian for your organs.
And who knows, maybe the muslims WILL start donating once they can give their organs only to other muslims. Their "rigid" rules tend to fall by the wayside when they become inconvenient.
>t. America
>old provinces matters in such a small country
Good joke. The world calls you Holland and will continue to do that even if you absorb Flanders. Deal with it.