Why do liberals and left-leaning people tend to be more intelligent and better educated (STEM)?

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Liberals are good, conservatives are bad. Yes, it is really that simple.

They can afford it.

Cute deer

dependency

most libs live off republicans tax dollars so

The Left gives jobs to academics. They're voting out of self-interest, not because Leftism is intelligent.

Book smarts =/= wisdom

Look at autists. Insanely clever in maths, but hopeless when it comes to real-life, people-oriented things

Basically, being good at science doesn't mean you're smart at international diplomacy, military strategy, running a country, etc.

because you get grades for being a liberal and left-leaning

Modern education is liberal brainwashing and nothing else

Also to answer that point further, people who are bookish turn to sciences because it's a refuge for them from harsh reality.

Hence they are people who favour wooly lefty social policies because they're scared of the big mean nasties of the world.

they're sheltered. they never experience the horrors their liberal policies inflict on the middle and lower class.

they live in all-white neighborhoods. they've never victims of crimes.

Why are most white liberals usually young, have no life experience, have zero understanding of economics and still live with mommy and daddy in upper class white suburbia?

Duh. A good mage is a terrible cleric.

>why do people who have spent more time in college, a hotbed of leftist indoctrination, tend to be more left-leaning

There are plenty of people on the far left who are intelligent. There is a rational argument for totalitarian Marxism, it just lowers the quality of life of everybody living under it. They are the far rights greatest allies because true conservatism opposes capitalism and pursuit of self-interest first and foremost. It's also great to have intelligent debates with people who hold completely opposite views to you. Some of my closest associates are marxists and I prefer talking to them than talking to my conservative friends because it's boring to hear stuff I allready agree with over and over again.

It's the virtue signalling pseudo left wing people that fuck it all up with their idiocy and faggotry. 'Left wing academics' at the moment are just a bunch of people educated in either a meme subject or a highly specialised subject who are given credibility purely from a blanket respect for academia and not for their actual knowledge about politics.

> liberals
> STEM
Yeah nah.
About half of STEM people are social outcasts, autists with no empathy for anyone and other groups of people who actually despise normies and such.
The other half dont give a fuck about politics and only care about doing their research/work.

I have only gotten to know 2 leftist out of like 500 other stem students and both failed their first semester because supprise you actually have to do work to achieve something in STEM.

Because emotion tends to drive peoples political beliefs. Intelligent people can still be retarded and believe in nonsense.

>people that are bookish turn to sciences because it's a refuge from harsh reality

precisely, because science is the antithesis of reality

*FART*

shut your dumb bitch mouth

Because we get forced diversity training during college.

undercooked roast

You know exactly what I mean you dumb cunt

literally nothing you said has anything to do with them being more intelligent and better educated.

Nikola tesla was a social outcast.

Do you perhaps value social capabilities and status more than education and intelligence?

IS THAT WHY THEY ALL HAVE LIBERAL ARTS DEGREES AND NO JOBS!?!!>?!>!?!?!>?!????

This. The social science departments are unreasonably biased toward the left. And any sauce on political affiliation and its relationship to STEM education?

theweek.com/articles/441474/how-academias-liberal-bias-killing-social-science

Orgo here.
In my classes, we had more conservatives than progressives. Most of us are libertarian realist however. Politics isn't our thing, but we understand that some parts of life are liberal and go all-out, and some things are very conservative and efficiently run.

Economics for example, works far better under a conservative and privately run system that can meet changing trends, whereas socialist economics universally fails.

>Orgo
Eyy.

social capabilities and attaining status takes a lot of intelligence and adaptability you fucking autist

What if the changing trend is that conservative economics are beginning to fail when not supplemented by socialist policies?

That is basically what has happened over the last 20 years.
We kept giving the private system more and more freedom, and they took gross advantage of it. The stock market and global economy have introduced a different world that is showing will literally suck everything dry for its own gain.

That cannot be allowed right? So why not institute some socialist policy that will offset the efficacy consolidation of economic power that is the privately run system we have right now?

Is not a successful economic system one that enriches the majority of the society whilst raising the status quo steadily/

The last three tests that showed such a gap found an excuse to lump blacks in with conservatives for their social views, totally ignoring their stance on economics.

Blacks are super Christian but they are all hard Democrats. If you took 50 white Liberals and 50 white Conservatives and tested them, you would not see even one standard deviation in difference.

>What if the changing trend is that conservative economics are beginning to fail when not supplemented by socialist policies?

You're missing the point. Conservative economics is the only form that works.
Liberal economics always fails because you eventually run out of other people's money to spend.

Academia is controlled by kikes, you figure it out.
Also check these digits.

I've yet to meet one left-leaning engineer in my entire career and I've done engineering across the world.

The problem is not, and has never been the overreach of actual businesses, but of banks, investment banks and investor-insurance corps, which are all backed by the Federal Reserve.

Read Ryan Dawson some time, he explains it in terrible detail with citations. Most of our problems don't come from a lack of regulation, but because our entire monetary system is completely fucked up.

Here's an example--our entire tax system is a ponzi scheme. The federal government does not actually use your tax dollars for anything, the Federal Reserve literally prints their budget in dollars every year and gives it to the Fed. The Fed then has to PAY IT BACK WITH INTEREST.

A bunch of Jewish bankers have arranged for every dollar in the country to be an IOU to them, and you care about what Wal-Mart is doing? Perspective. Socialism will not fix this, either, the Socialists have always been in bed with big banks since the time of Lenin.

They don't. They include socially conservative people in with fiscally conservative people while conveniently only looking at socially liberal people. Fiscally conservative people are more educated on average.

this

I never said it doesn't. you dolt.
However,Intelligence does not REQUIRE social capabilities. Nor does social prowess mean you are more intelligent than someone lacking in that area.
again, nikola tesla example.

You seem to be taking this as calling rightist dumb, its not. It's simply saying that leftist are more intelligent and better educated, which they are.

You probably have more friends and get more pussy than them though and likely are pretty smart as well.

Because they're spoiled and sheltered by their parents.

That explains both the college education and the complete absence of real world experience that drives their world view.

conservatives care more about making money than making a difference

Because what these studies define as "liberal" is closer to a libertarian rather than a screeching marxist SJW.

Idk myself, all the STEM high achievers like japs and chinks are so liberal it hurts

they can be degenerate but they still prefer liberal economy

Yeah seriously, I had my first "diversity training" session last semester. Tbh my major (education) is prerty liberal. I wouldn't necessarily recommend going into education as a man because the field is rather sexist towards men, assuming all male teachers will at some point rape students and generally bashing make teachers and students for being overbearing and "erasing" female students. Teaching is rewarding and if you can get along with kids that helps, but the pay is shit and society looks down on you. But God the race training we have to go thru is cringe-central. Just all the cis-het white males need to pay reparations for some original sin doesn't click for me. And all of the students buy into this mindset! You can't be openly conservative and in education because conservative=racist, hate families, selfish. I get that (although I hate) teachers have to live a certain way to stay credible: no hard drugs/excessive degeneracy but also having to THINK a certain way? Ffs when did we stray so far?

They don't include niggers in their statistics.

> liberal economy
you mean high taxes?

Because there's no such thing as making a difference. You just pretend that what you do matters because it makes you feel good about yourself.

Take tesla owners as an example. They think they're making a difference buying a car that is a tremendous waste of energy.

Or solar panel owners, despite the fact that solar panels are a net loss unless you live in a desert.

Liberals fall for every scam imaginable.

no, liberal as free
it used to have that meaning

If economics can change and the need to adapt is wanted than it lends to reason that there could be a climate where conservative economics doesn't work.
Perhaps a climate where you can't really run out of other people's money because the economy is globally connected?
Murrica will never "run out of money" nut regardless it doesn't have to be all or nothing, just a change that creates more balance.
Hopefully you see that in its current state is not balanced at all and by the nature of conservative economics it will only become more one sided.
We arent going to ever dismantle the federal reserve or stop the government. We have to make due with what we can.
Under our current system big business is taking advantage, a slight shift to some socialist policies will offset this and better the country as a whole.
If the italian mafia is robbing my bank of choice it sucks but that doesn't mean I won't carry a gun to stop the street thug from robbing my house


The goal is for the country to get better right? For life to be easier? For people to work less, be better educated, be able to travel, have hobbies live life, not worry about losing their homes if they lose their job etc

Conservative economics works to a point but you will never be able to say that the aforementioned is the goal of the system.

I smell a cucked German shill.

the word you're looking for is libertarian

They don't, and they're not. Just the fact that the lowest scoring ethnicities are lefties/dems fucks that whole idea straight outta compton.

liberal indoctrination in universities

you can only hear one side of an argument so long until you take it yourself

Unfortunately for everyone, that kind of "indoctrination" or "brainwashing" is very real.

In all serious, WHO THE FUCK MODS Pol. It sure as fuck isn't a Sup Forumslack. Why is this board modded by people who hate white people and the right wing? Does this make sense? Is the auto board moderated by people who hate cars, is Sup Forums moderated by people who hate anime, is /k/ moderated by people who are afraid of guns?

Then I ask you, WHY is this fucking board moderated by people who hate the people who make this board different from the rest of the fucking political boards online?

Why isn't the piece of shit who started this thread, for example, not banned for shit posting? Why are IPs from Israel not banned automatically? What the fuck is the point. Is there a way we can protest this by migrating to another board and fucking things up for them the way the mods fuck things up for the right wing on Sup Forums?

Please don't end sentences with "so".
I figure that there are people that think policies they agree with will work because they assume that other people are like them.

Throughout all of human history, until after World War II, the opposite was true. Leftists now control our universities in the West, and they push out and punish conservative thought.

They don't. There is no real correlation between intelligence and education ans political meaning. There may be more "educated" (assuming that womyn studies and liberal arts are real education, which is bullshit) libtards than conservatives, because libtards simply do n't have anything else to do than get shitty degrees, while conservatives tend to be more busy doing actual work. Besides, shitty "education" does not equal neither intelligence, knowledge nor wisdom.

In the USA, where private schools are allowed to "teach" whatever the fuck they want, anyone with money could make their own "college". If I had enough money, I could build my own "college" and give people degrees for writing on exams that dolphins are fish and dogs are ayy lmaos.

well when u say libertarian it also mostly refers to whole ideology same as liberal i guess
so i guess its best to say free then

I would just like to add that this is NOT the picture I posted.

Social climbers conform

If Liberals are so smart, why do they believe in left media lies and half-truths?

I wonder where your picture went. Is there a way to find out?

Because the less life experience you have the softer you are. It's why old people are conservative.

I don't think anyone would disagree communism would be great, if it worked. But the problem is the human element, I would personally love to live in a world where everyone was caring and kind to their fellow man. However, we don't live in that world. But when you grow up in rich neighborhoods, then go party with other rich kids, it's easy to develop the view that everyone is the same XDDDDDDD! What they miss is that it's not so much race or religion as it is a class thing. I don't think here in North America we think so much that way, although it is shifting in that direction. What middle class people don't realize is that they will be the ones paying for shaniquas 6 kids.

>STEM
>better educated

>STEM
>liberal

Afufufufu~
STEM is for autismal middle class fascist retards.

>"book smarts is what separates the white man from the nigger"
>"math is the language of the universe. if i know enough math eventually i'll mathematically solve all my problems"
>"any job i want 300k starting"
t. deluded pasty whiteboi nerds

Meanwhile Chad and Stacy get cushy government jobs with their "shit tier" humanities degrees because they never left the real world and actually talked to other people.

>people educate themselves
>become liberals
Hmm... made me think

whatever, user. the catgirl is out of the bag now. we all know your fetish.

The "tragedy of the commons" is as much of a problem in a socialist economic system as it is in a capitalist economic system. You can't conflate the environmental problems of the capitalist system saying that they are inherent problems of capitalism because the cause lies elsewhere (go look up "the tragedy of the commons" if you want a detailed explanation).

The problem with centrally planned economies indicitave of socialist economic models is that they overestimate the predictive and controlling power of the state. The system works fine for some time, however in reality it sits on a knife edge. because crises (somewhat paradoxically) invariably occur and they invariably bring centrally run systems/empires to their knees.

People fail to realize that they exercise very little control over their lives.

you have got it wrong.

STEM/ intelligent people aren't particularly left, they are just particularly quet about their ideology.

They have something to lose, hence even if they are as far right as you can get, they will never utter a word.

I am such a case.

Just think about it, 70 years ago all scientists were making tanks, rockets, bombs, gas etc for the reich!

yes because those people who dropped out of college work at wallmart and live off of welfare checks are very uducated

Well I was a liberal, i.e. ignorant child, and even when I suffered terrible real life events it required me to educate myself with forbidden books and websites in order to education myself far enough so I could become enlightened. And it cured me of the more insane and hypocritical parts of modern day "liberalism".

You've apparently never dealt with engineers, they're very right wing. Especially if they lean in on the business side of stuff. Except comp sci/ software guys. They're faggots.

Classical Liberalism is GOAT. Although modern Liberalism is nothing like CL. It's unfortunate that the term has been appropriated by degenerates.

I just tried to post my picture again, but the system says it's a duplicate file of what's posted above... Very strange. Pic related (old-timey photo of kids rollerskating) is a different copy/version of the pic I tried to post.

Maybe one could search the archive at 4plebs via google image search or something like that, if one really wanted to know if it was posted somewhere "random" on Sup Forums the first time...

Also, I have not a single catgirl on my machine, nor have I ever considered saving a catgirl to disk.

Capitalism fundamentally operates because of a free market and competition.
The reality of our economic climate right now is a simple oligarchy.
The best have proven themselves, the greatest have established their empires and made so much money there is no such thing as competition.

The sheer amount of money that the leaders of our economy can shell out on a whim to buy out any kind of competition is enough to ensure their continued dominance.
But on top of that, the politics of capitalism and the connections inherit to the leaders owning so much make it a nearly absolute death sentence if you decided to not take a buy out and compete.

Obviously they earned their thrones and we cant dismantle them but we also cannot allow them to continue holding back the overall growth of society for pure money sport.

Pic related - this is a fairly recent trend. Some of it however does have to do with some republican policies (homosexuality, global warming) being scientifically indefensible.

These links should be useful:
verdantlabs.com/politics_of_professions/index.html
businessinsider.com/charts-show-the-political-bias-of-each-profession-2014-11
huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/07/studying-economics-in-col_n_603180.html

Mathematics and Computer Engineering double major here.
Also conservative.

Depends on what you mean by "educated". If you mean "took a bunch of classes and ended up with a piece of paper", it's because universities are little more than the left's churches. You subscribe to the right beliefs, repeat the right incantations and you will be given their approval. Even if you study a STEM field in the US, you have to take courses that have nothing to do with your degree, so a person with an engineering degree may end up with courses in African Drumming, Middle Eastern Studies and 12th Century French Poetry to cover your "diversity", "non-western civilizations" and "literature" credits.

Leftists are not more intelligent by any stretch of the imagination. They are drones who do what they are told and never question.

Your shilling is insane tonight.

Just fucking kill yourself,jew.

most of them live off their parents and gov im not shocked more dems are able to go to college

Assumed that what you're saying is the truth, what if I told you that the current system is purposedly tailored to capture the support of all the educated while it fails to win the powerful, instinctive, self-conservative, bowel-thinking of the "stupid" in trying times?
In other words, you are a fucking cuck, and rednecks have a better understanding of reality than you will ever have.

unintelligent

fixed it for you, idiot.

germoney is the worst shit hole on earth right now right behind cucknadia.

I hope you're not having a go at "womens' studies" or sociology.
Or I shall report you to the appropriate non racist authorities.

Wew lad. I need to go to my safe space after reading your post.
I am offended. And you gave me hurt feelings.
I have reported you. The Polizei anti hate speech unit are on their way to re-educate you.
Best you get ready for a non homophobic, feminist, anti fascist indoctrination method.

>homosexuality, global warming
>scientifically indefensible
I don't know what you're on about, scientists suspect the gay gene doesn't exist and is entirely due to upbringing, and everyone knows climate change is real (that's why everything isn't frozen any more) the only argument is if it's man made or not,

>liberals
>stem

They aren't. Most people with jobs are conservative

>takes 90 credit hours worth of sciences, maths, physics for engineering
>takes 6 credit hours of humanities
>moron who never learned anything but leftist beliefs

You are fucking hilariously ignorant about what it takes to become anything in the stem field.

The people who are literally responsible for all the worlds medical and technological advances are all just drones who were gifted a piece of paper for taking african drumming.

Oh man I love this place

>Be me
>moderate, libertarian leaning
>majoring in CIT

Feels good man.

>Scientists suspect
Sauce?
Also, no single "gay gene" doesn't rule out the effect being of prenatal environment or polygenetic.

>Everyone knows climate change is real
Tell that to James Inhofe.

You know you don't need a truckload of poison for a well right?

what a weird deer, dear!

This so much. Any university by definition has a ton of different course work, and in any STEM degree you only have to take X amount of electives in 100/200/300 level social sciences. The X is usually very small, maybe 1/10th of your total coursework.

Also note the word elective, which means you can choose which courses you take. In my time in college, I took a European art history class, a technological ethics course, and a philosophy of science course among other things. All were chosen freely and all have greatly enhanced my appreciation for art, culture, science, and ethics. For Christ's sake my art history final paper was on an early Baroque piece that depicts a saint.

Why do morons think that because some colleges offer African Studies or some such that it means all humanities are worthless?

>comp sci faggots
Not necessarily true. Yes you have a fair number of open source ideologues, who often can afford to be so magnanimous because they either have a job paid by an evil corporation, or sold a product or company to one. But most engineers are fairly conservative, and way more conservative than most liberal arts majors.

You can't go far in science/engineering if you think there's no such thing as truth. For example, if you believe that whether or not the bridge will stand is a matter of perspective.

>math isn't real life
You don't really know what real is, and your attitude about math reflects that.

Listen, the fact is, NO sentient being who supports a political side that works AGAINST his own species (white people) for the benefit of others can be considered intelligent. It's a contradiction in terms.
It's cutting your own throat.

>Subscribe to the right beliefs
>Repeat the right incantations
Wouldn't they be the left?

because you have mixed up what cause and effect are

because the market has determined that humanities degress are worthless
just might have something to do with the fact that any braindead moron with 0 self-discipline can get one and does

citation needed, kraut faggot.

Because it is pushed everywhere at the uni.

t. med student

Anyway most of them finish by growing out of it when they realize the governement takes 60% of their shekels to give them at lazy niggers, unless they get a job in a public structure, in this case they just vote to protect their priviledges.

The youngest Sup Forumsacks should rapidly understand that the vast majority of people don't really care that much about freedom of speech, white genocide or corruption, what they care about is the material comfort and their capacity to consume, that's why they are so short sighted and bluepilled, why acknowledging the truth when you can just live in wonderland ?

Give the choice between being a little multimillionaire and the power to decide the policies pf your country during the next 10 years to people, 95% will pick the money, mostly because they have no vision for their own country, just a list of personnal material and in best cases social achievements.

Mathematics ia a human construct m8 :^)

Because they run their own polls dumbass