Storm spends 2 years shitting on Scott Summers Then basically turns into Cyclops as soon as shit hits the fan...

Storm spends 2 years shitting on Scott Summers Then basically turns into Cyclops as soon as shit hits the fan. I wonder if Storm has enough self-awareness to know how much of a hypocrite she's become . I also wonder if any of the other X-men has the balls to confront her on it.

How is it that every attempt to prove Cyclops wrong just reinforces his correctness? Is Marvel doing this on purpose, or are they just stupid?

Neither. Scott is just that right.

Scott's secondary mutation is uncanny awareness. It's literally his power to know exactly what's going on all the time. He literally cannot be wrong.

At what point does character assassination go from "character progression" to just plain shitty writing?

Are Marvelfags just deluded?

Of course they're doing it on purpose you dingbat. This is Marvel Marketing 101: shit on something you like in order to make you angry and therefor make the thing more popular.

Well if they write him out of character, fans lose their shit, so they keep him in character, and his character's just that right.

>we're STILL expected to side with the Inhumans
>The cloud outright kills mutants and potentially humans, and inhumans who undergo secondary terrigenesis sometimes get fucked up, but you can't do ANYTHING to it because MUH CULTURE
>even when Storm can literally control the weather and could syphon the Terrigen mists into safe containment where it can't harm anyone and still be used to turn inhumans

There's literally no downside to containing the cloud. Inhumans, humans, and mutants all mutually prosper from it. And the Attilan royalty are literally saying "you can't interfere or you're fucking racist"

The entire premise of Inhumans vs X-men is utterly baffling on all levels.

One side thinks that a cloud of poisons gas is more important then the lives of Every Mutant on the planet

The other side just wants to live. How can teh Inhumans be anything but the bad guys in this thing?

Repeat after me.

MUH

CULCHUH

>Mutants & Inhumans destroying each other and showing their true colors

I don't think that is a bad thing

It's worse than that especially with the hamfisted writing in Uncanny Inhumans. We constantly seem them act melodramatic put on the cross of "woe is me the oppressed minority" in their book but also get hints that they know genociding the mutants with their cloud is a bad idea. Not because of morality (because they really don't have any) but because of the PR. While this at first seems interesting it falls apart after Uncanny #12-13 I think where they find spare terrigen crystals from an Inhuman's private stash that even they admit could terrigenesize everyone in Attilan at least twice. Medusa keeps it to herself and from the tie-in it's hinted Kamala knows about the stash as well. So instead of letting the cloud get destroyed since they already have extra terrigen that can be contained, they just let it go around mutating and/or killing people because they're just greedy. Gets even more infuriating because they keep going back and forth about the cloud being unclean/an abomination but also sacred whenever anyone else comes near it. Inhumans are complete shit and I can't see how Marvel can justify their actions. My only hope is that Magneto and un-house negroed Storm find out about the spare terrigen and rip them a new one for their stupid and selfish behavior.

Like, it's straight up confirmed that the gas can be safely contained and it can still transform inhumans even if it is, and the inhumans are STILL like Nuh uh can't touch it it's sacred

I don't know if I'd call her a hypocrite. She wanted "a better way" and only now has she come to realize there isn't one, that Cyclops was right.

But user, you made that up entirely. Post the pages where your lies come from.

>sacred
I still don't get this.
They're the scientastic result of the Kree sticking their alien schlong into human genetics with the intent on creating a vassal race.

How the fuck do they get a religion and royal fucking family out of that?

Medusa is fucking crazy.

so the inhumans = israel

It was thousands of years before they found out where they came from
And plenty inhumans do think they should just abandon their traditions in light of that, but those tend not to live on new attilan

Okay but like, pretty much every major religion has a big fucking asterisk on every "sacred" part that says "unless someone's dying from it". Like, Muslim women are allowed to take their headdresses off, or have them removed if they're unconscious and suffering a massive head wound. That's implied consent, motherfucker. What POSSIBLE moral pillar can the Inhumans stand on?

What you said was:
>I wonder if Storm has enough self-awareness to know how much of a hypocrite she's become
What you should have said was:
>I wonder if anyone at Marvel has enough self-awareness to know how much of a hypocrite she's become
The answer is no, by the way. They don't know what they're doing and that don't care either.

Tbh there was a case in Saudi Arabia where firemen couldn't save schoolgirls from a fire because they weren't properly dressed, and they died

I thought so cause I've read just about every inhuman book so far and don't remember that at all.

They gone out of there way to make sure Scott did nothing and made fake scott right. The X-men win in the end and the royal family leave. I don't see how that is them trying to make us side with the Inhumans. They even make the X-men take the non violent role and put the Inhumans in time out until they do what they have to do.

Do they even have Jews among their """"""ranks"""""?

its going to end with "Sinister or Skull was poisoning people to start a war the whole time"

>Saudi Arabia
No surprise there. Fuckers still live in 1400.

Sinister is Inhumanfag, user.
>there'll be never story about Sinister being upset at Emma because she didn't ask him to revive his boy
I unironically headcanon Sinister as BEST DAD OF THE YEAR.

Is this a real page? Because good god that is some shit art. I mean how could any company publish that?

Why would you bother with art for fucking X-book? If it had stickmen, people would buy it.

Did she admit she was wrong and Scott was right? better late than never

Think of it this way. When Marvel told you that Cyclops was right and good and the clean-shaven leader of the X-Men, everyone hated him. Cyclops was made fun of endlessly, was the butt of all jokes, and got cucked (in the actual sense, not the Sup Forums sense) by Wolverine.

So, Marvel now says you should HATE Cyclops. And then makes stories where he's making logical decisions, or standing up for others, but they still say "nooo, he's a bad guy, he's hitler!" on the surface, yeah? And now everyone loves Cyclops.

Is this the new IVX issue?

I always loved Cyclops though, and I've never cared about other people. Also, he was never really cucked by Wolverine until Morrison's run, where he was losing his attachment to Jean anyway.

That's not even remotely true.
Everyone hated Cyclops in the 80's when he left his wife and kid in Alaska to go hang out with Jean and the boys.
Everyone hated Cyclops in the 90's because the Animated Series and the movies all had the subtlety of a brick to the face and set Cyclops up as the boring buzzkill who stopped Wolverine from doing all the cool shit.
Everyone hated Cyclops in the 00's because the X-Men movies did the same thing as the Animate Series, plus made Cyclops Wolverine's romantic rival.

Kind of both.

See it's the basic flaw of the Straw Man argument. The more you shit on your rival the more it becomes clear you don't have a leg to stand on.

I disagree with a lot of Scott's ideas on the species and some of his actions during AvX but these fuckers just don't know shit

>during AvX
>unironically going REALLY MAKES YOU THINK on that shitshow

>and inhumans who undergo secondary terrigenesis sometimes get fucked up
>sometimes
It has a much higher fatality rate than normal terrigenesis and survivors turn into monsters 50-75% of the time (and normal terrigenesis still occasionally kills motherfuckers/turns them into monsters). And that's for pureblood Inhumans. Nuhumans have even shittier survival rates.

On top of all this, normal and secondary both run the risk of giving someone powers that trigger as a WMD in a populated area.

Mutants = good minorities. They have jobs, mow their lawn at reasonable hours and eat disgusting food while babbling in their dumb language

Inhumans = bad minorities. They shout allahu akbar while trying to exterminate all of their enemies

>Black Bolt straight up murders Scott (as far as she knows)
>we must work with the Inhumans to prevent more deaths
>mutant dies from Terrigen mist
>we must go to war with the Inhumans
Fuck Storm

The irony is that, before this STUPID FUCKING CLOUD, Marvel had the perfect narrative for a species conflict that was basically the opposite of this.

Imagine being a mutant in the Marvel universe, and then nuhumans start popping up. Despite the fact you're the same fucking thing, humans who've arbitrarily lucked into genetic superpowers, marvel civilians treat mutants with hate and fear, but treat inhumans with sympathy and concern. Mutants are just total genetic randoms, while nuhumans were good ordinary people (not just teenagers at the onset of puberty, we see grown men and women who have lived full lives suddenly change) who've been forcibly changed by an external force. My poor son/daughter/friend/mother etc. They've been turned into a freak by Black Bolt's horrible gene raping mist, won't someone console and accommodate this victim.

There's your social interspecies conflict. Not a fucking murder cloud.

They had more sense in 1400. That entire region going to shit is less than 100 years old.

Don't blame characters, blame "events". the more tie-ins and ongoing series that are affected by events the more difficult it is for writers to maintain characterization.

I'm tired of events in comics. I'm glad i haven't bought any event comics in years.

Wrong pic but whatever.

>the more tie-ins and ongoing series that are affected by events the more difficult it is for writers to maintain characterization.
If a character is sufficiently developed, which storm should god damn be having existed for decades, then events should have no impact on characterization. The character should write the event, not vice versa, with circumstance driving conflict and not forced out of character bullshit.

If that means there's less hero on hero bullshit. That probably means the hero on hero bullshit was stupid in the first god damn place.

Is that nightcrawler? How did he come back to life?

They busted him out of heaven. Because that's a thing you can do.

Busting someone out of heaven is something you could make a 12 issue run out of if you did it right. Was it interesting or just like, half an issue and effortless?

He teleported himself out. Yes, that is apparently a thing you can do.

Seriously? Everything is such garbage now.

One trade, pretty much effortless. Xavier was shown being happy as fuck.
Even if he's one of evil Multiversal Xaviers.

He also has no soul now since he had to use it to bind Azazeal to earth to prevent him from taking over Heaven and Hell as if any random Ghost Rider couldn't kick his ass.
A lack of soul has somehow done nothing to his personality.

Which issue did this happen in?

Well of course not, user.

He doesn't wear shoes.

Nobody confronted Beast after he joined the Illuminati. What makes you think they'll confront Ororo?

>the other X-men has the balls to confront her on it.
Help, Storm is being oppressed

>Sinister is Inhumanfag
You mean summerfag

Can we talk about how shitty Beast has become?

You forgot about le Inhuman gene is superior than X-gene when he was trying to save mutants?

>mfw I've read CBR Storm thread and all Stormfags being buttblasted for her attacking Beast
>s-she could talk him out of that!

Seriously what the fuck is up with Beast?

He's a coward and always picks the path that runs away.

You guys know they're going to blame it on this new mutation and have him revert back to being regular Beast when they need to actually reboot the X-Men, right?

As soon as he mutated into this new yeti-man form right before he pulled his time bending shenanigans, I figured they were going to use it as an excuse to write him out of character.

No I mean... at what point did the writers decide that Beast needed to be the fucking worst? At what point did they decide he needed to basically hate his own race?

Considering the powercreep that Cypher got with his linguistics ability that would actually be an interesting place to go with (what I believe is canon) Cyclop's actual secondary mutation regarding knowledge of geometry, angles and all that math he does subconsciously for his assorted feats of bouncing shots. He literally sees all the angles now and is instinctively seeing the way things can play out and is selecting the best possible choice he can.

What the fuck did he do in AvX, anyways? I skipped out on that because I don't like Xmen.

This was so terribly written. She lightning bolts Hank to prevent him from going to the Inhumans, but then has to spend an entire day being wishy washy over the subject until a little girl dies. Give me a break.

Dark Reign

Wanted Hope to get the Phoenix after not training her or even letting her know the word exists for several months. The Avengers were a tad concerned about the Phoenix at that time tearing an actual path of destruction across billions of inhabited worlds as it gorged upon their souls on the way to Earth.
Cyclops had multiple time travellers say that hope was going to be a genocidal mutant hitler and Cable saying to protect her. He chose to ignore the others and listen to Cable despite knowing that Hope automatically enslaves any mutant she touches.
Both sides went full retard and stumbled into survival. While Cyclops was in Godmode at the end and burning the entire planet to death Jean secretly ascended from on high to call Cyclops an idiot before sapping his power.
Beast at this point is reacting to the fact that billions of people should be dead, only fucking idiots wouldn't be able to tell it was them, and the new mutants that spawned are all logically going to bear the brunt of any retribution (in the form of mass genocide) for it as if any of that won't be glossed over by the next issue. Cyclops cherrypicks the fact that new mutants are around now and flashes a gang sign in happiness which is enough to start a Cyclops is right meme.
Then it was revealed afterwards that Tony had stolen a cheatsheet on the future from his future self so he was basically the only one that knew what he was doing.

TLDR
He didn't know wtf he was doing and lucked out but everyone hates the other side more (Fuck da police) so they look at it as if you HAVE to pick one side instead of realizing they're both being retarded.

>When Marvel told you that Cyclops was right and good and the clean-shaven leader of the X-Men, everyone hated him

Sup Forums isn't Chris Sims.

Cyclops was right about 2 things in Avx:
1.) Phoenix would bring back mutants
2.) No one gives a shit about mutants except the X-Men

He's been acting in accordance with 2 until he died

Storm looks like a white girl in black face

Rightclops is actually Right-angle-clops

No, X-Men = Gays, Inhumans = Islamists.

>then events should have no impact on characterization
well it should, but one that doesn't come in and invent a new personality to serve the event. But writers don't know how to handle and even while keeping personalities in tact and letting them develop organically. It is just shitty, lazy writing.

I've given up on events too. The ones that are good are 'small' ones or ones removed from the greater picture. Like Annihilation.

>Right-angle-clops
10,000 hours in paint

X-Men and Inhumans should both go die in a Cosmic Fire

I still love how everyone forgets she almost went dark on the moon before the Phoenix split

They are in fact just that stupid.
It's almost too ridiculous to be believed, but Marvel's current staff is so completely incompetent and without originality or talent that they actually drive home the OPPOSITE point they supposedly are trying to show off.

It shows how far the company's talent has fallen when they can tell you explicitly what they are aiming for, attempt to write with that explicit goal in mind, and then still totally fail at it.
It's like writing the dialogue to a porno and then forgetting that at some point they are supposed to fuck.

No, most of us are aware how crap the company has become.

>She lightning bolts Hank

I don't care how terribly written Storm is, I'm just so happy this finally happened.

It's okay when Storm does it because she is a proud woman of color who don't need no man, except t'chala, or Logan, or Thor.

But when it's a white man saying the same things, he's worse than Hitler.

To be fair, she was supposed to have her weird cosmic support system of new mutants with her when she met the Phoenix.

Which she didn't have because when the Avengers attacked Utopia they inadvertently released a supervillain that purposefully took them out of the picture.

They don't forget. They just claim that without the initial interference she would be on Utopia where the lights would make things easier despite Hope already murdering one of em, another being on the wrong side of the continent, another being a newborn baby and on the wrong continent, and the penis metaphor robot being easily capable of and planning to see what happens when the phoenix host doesn't have lights to stabilize them.

>"If we run now, we'll be running away forever all our lives, this is our line" - Cyclops
>Gets killed
>X-MEN GO LIVE IN ACTUAL LIMBO
>"We can't go on like this guys" - Storm
You can't make this shit up.

No user. In 1400 they had Turks telling them not to be idiots.

Unit was not released from anything in Utopia. He CHOSE to leave. Literally everything was going and went according to keikaku for him. It was made extremely explicit that he was in total control of the situation from the get go when he hacked the entire jail.
I think you have a few selective holes in your memory or simply forgot what you read from it having been a while.

>tfw no Cyclops & Gambit story set in the eighties, with lots of bikes, whiskey and pool hustlin'

Did someone co-wrote X-Men '92 with Sims? His Cyclops wasn't Comics Alliance meme monster.

He was able to leave unimpeded because the X-Men were busy squabbling with the Avengers.

Doubly sad when you remember that Gambit was originally going to be the third Summers brother.

Instead we got Vulcan. Eugh.

Someone named chad bowers, anyways his pice of shit X men 92 fanfiction got canned and it's in the thrash were it deserves to be

He can teleport and controlled the entire jail full of soon to be enraged supervillains if he felt like releasing them. Do you seriously think he couldn't have literally disappeared at any moment or made a distraction?

What a fucking coward.

Where is the storytime?

IIRC he only left after his objective of incapacitating those kids was completed. He wouldn't have had any opportunity to do so without a fight unless everyone else had been distracted.

That said, I could be misremembering, it has been years.

So how did we end up with this beast? From what I've seen he's been one of the most consistent characters but that personality is just shitty. What turned him into this

That shitty robot was the worst part of Gillen's X-men and Iron Man run.

And I guess Beast is pic related

Why do you guys still read X-Men?