Tfw you had a beautiful, innocent girlfriend who loved you unconditionally for who you are...

>tfw you had a beautiful, innocent girlfriend who loved you unconditionally for who you are, but it was all a lie and she's just a sex object for other men
>even the cute nickname she gave you meant nothing

Women will never understand this scene

See?

>tfw realize you're just another Joe
>tfw a nobody like millions of other meaningless Joe's
>tfw you reject this truth and realize you must make your own meaning

K I N O

Imagine missing the point this hard. Where's this from?

New Statesman

How you could think that scene was K just being sad that Joi was dead is beyond me

His girlfriend was a futuristic waifu.

He had to have known other guys had the same waifu out there.

movie reviewers are slowly turning into game reviewers because outlets are realizing what matters is drumming up controversy and views instead of quality content.

i mean, quality content can make you money, but there's a far bigger userbase for shitty, unethical and retarded content

fucking brainlet roasties ree

t. brainlet who misunderstood the scene

Sounds like shitposting for (you)s to me.

Women understand the scene fine, they just can’t stand the idea of a future where their bullshit might be rendered irrelevant in favor of a cute/sexy A.I.

you just perfectly described modern film reviewers

What the fuck that's an ostensibly respectable magazine. This shit is turning into an anti-femite

Ffs, this whole angle was done by Her. They even copy pasted the whole AI solicits a prostitute scene except this time it works. The merged women look like Scarlett Johansson.

Falling in love with an AI is a mid-20th century sci-fi trope. It wasn't invented by Spike Jonze

They managed to do this angle in a subplot better than Her and still have a fantastic movie outside of that one subplot
Also it ties in with the other themes in the movie, this scene follows right after he learns he isn't Deckard's son

>"We all wish it was us"

But she loves him, they'll be together forever!

>no scene of him holding her broken "flashdrive" while staring in to commercial
missed opportunity

And they try to tell you there's no differences between the genders

same but different. Joi while she was with K was different than Joi with some other dude. Joi adapts to its user and this Joi starts offering K things he likes and the relationship becomes more personal. At least for him. To the point where he doesnt want to put her on the stick in fear she will die. He bought into the love thinking it was real.
Its like if you had a bodypillow waifu and you have had it for so long that you start having your own kind of connection and memories and moments with it. then one day someone burns your house down, your possesions, destroyed. and later see your waifu on the internet getting a hot load on some cropped porn image on Sup Forums. you realise that your waifu was just a slate that you carved on. the slate isnt worth anything its the text on it that turns it from rock to tablet.
this is all coming to him after the first gut punch of him realizing he wasnt the child.

man I really wish I can have an A.I. Waifu in my lifetime.

>always qt as fuck
>never ages
>never starts drama
>can provide jerk off instructions
>not a stinky

Same could be said to people though, they die and your love is gone. Movie plays with this idea when they tell Deckard that his love for Rachael was programmed and not real, well same could be said about human love, it's all work of your brain and processes inside them. I'm not saying that that's how we should view the world, but movie really plays around with this.

what is she saying here to K?

>come on Joe, type a long TSUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

Women can never understand the level of attachment men feel towards a significant other.
Woemnare bombarded with attention and validation from the opposite sex, to the point where choosing a man is literally picking the best option from a menu. No struggle for anything. That's why they branch swing so much when they find something better, and that's why they hate "clingy" guys. Because if they're with a men other women don't want to be with, they're losing. They need to be with the best, most popular ones.

CELLS.

goddamn it user

He did, we see advertisements for Joi throughout the movie but K doesn't pay attention to them because he has his own unique Joi who he shared experiences with. That scene showed that he was not as special as he thought (again) because Joi was programmed to love everyone who bought her and it showed that even though she's a disposable product, getting a new Joi would not be the same as the first making his loss even greater

>More JOI, then.
who else caught this?

Just seen the movie,fucking awesome.

"Only consciousness is fundamental"

>mfw you look like a good joe

what if: love is a lie and humans are sex objects

think about it

>folds denim jacket
>imagines to be bladerunner irl

>if i turn into a sassy fat black lady will it make this movie less sexist?

Imagine being this stupid while paid to write about movies

>see this
>wat do

I think the film goes on to show why K was wrong about Joi.
K finds out that many of his older memories arn't his own. But he still has his own, real memories. He still experiences the world in his own way, from his own perspective. His death is just him looking at the world one last time, taking in the experience.

The film establishes that K's Joi is physically attached to hardware. There are no other copies exactly like her. She is not networked as Wallace Co can't just hack her. She doesn't share memories with other Joi's.

She may have certain tendencies, like calling guys Joe, but this does not make her identical to other Joi's. It's like being sad that your golden retriever likes to play ball because other goldens do to. Your dog (which is what Joi is implied to be) is a meaningful relationship even if other people have relationships like yours.

havent seen the movie yet, what exactly are they missing?

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>user, just reply that Nolan is an overrated hack

The whole point about Joi.

>this made me feel sad and uncomfortable
>this is a bad thing
hopefully journalism is illegal by 2049

pack up my prayer mat and run, you feel me?

Is Joe one the most broken characters in tv history?
>everyone treats him like shit
>thinks he has actually special
>nevermind it's somebody else, he really isn't special
>at least he has his waifu
>she's dead nvm
>also she never loved him
>he dies alone
The death part is probably a sweet relief from his miserable existence

But don’t you want to age with your woman together?

this. really hit the feels during that threesome scene.
he wants to touch her, feel her but the best he can get is that flickering mimicry. really painful

>>also she never loved him

please don't, user
it was real enough wasn't it?

i had it once. i hate her now but ive really never recovered. its been almost two years now. everything else, including her just feels shameful and disgusting. im worrying ive started a vicious cycle starting with preferring to be alone and ending with me dying alone

Writer thinks that that scene was meant to "create a touching moment of remembrance for Joi" then goes on to complain that the scene fails because all it does is remind the audience that he fell in love with a product. But him realizing that he fell in love with a product was the entire point of that scene. It was the moment he understood it was all illusory

which is?

Humm... probably the most important scene in the movie?
Not even joking.

so writer cant see a film without using the lens of feminism and racism. nice to know that this is what movies have turned into.

ITT: Waifufags who literally dont understand what love actually is, and cannot differentiate it from lust

>New Statesman
Is this a Laurie Penny review?

>all the good memories are hers
If it was lust he would just head home and buy a new Joi you brainlet.

He wasnt looking for lust, he was looking for actual love. He realised she couldnt provide it

>he hasn't realized the inherent "fakeness" of women

It's a black pill, don't take it

Joi is everything you want to see/hear. Joi was a reflection of K, because instead of a mindless trashy bimbo, his gf was a cute and pure waifu. So in reality, K really was special and not a sleazy perv, and Joi was really special too.

So while they were wrong about him being the son of Deckard, he went and saved Deckards life and brought him to his daughter, proving in the end that he was a real human being. They weren't wrong.

>tfw you have Google Home personality and no one will ever love you

wow, it's like she's trying to miss all possible points in all possible ways.

Whoever fucking wrote this I swear to god.

>her giant peachy-smooth vulva
Was it really that nice?

>built an entire set and really projected a 100ft Joi onto rain and smoke.
>Pivotal point for the main character as he realises he wasn't born to be special, but can still do good
I thought people were just memeing when they said this film was not for roasties, but holy fuck it's not for roasties.

Well sorry.
I was thinking you were saying the exact opposite.

"make a bane thread"

LEAVE PLEASURE ISLAND

RESCUE YOUR FATHER FROM THE BELLY OF THE WHALE

INTERLINKED

holographic AI is what replicants are to the original movie. Just because they are artificial and mass-produced doesn't mean they can't have a soul. I believe Joi did love K, it was real to her and real to him, and that was all that mattered to them.

i don't think we see a vulva?

(Remember, most women don't even know that penises can go from soft to erect, they barely understand female anatomy)

They're on different channels. Replicants are essentially humans, but told that they're just simulacra. Joi is a simulacrum, but one that deceives you into believing it's sentient.

Joi never does anything to transcend her programming. Everything she does is part of an algorithm to make her owner feel special. The only thing she could do to really overcome her programming is decide to tell K to fuck off, like ScarJo does in Her.

But the AI in Her became fundamentally sentient. Joi was just a phone iOS that does your laundry and you can fap to.

Well, I do agree here, if she's talking about feminism as in a movement towards equality of opportunities.
I'm father of 2, and it was much harder for her in just about every single aspect of our life.

I'm pretty sure pretty much telling him to upload her everything into one untraceable USB that would kill her if broken is trascending her programming.
Other Jois wouldn't go that far.

>K Literally rescues Deckard from the belly of the whale (car) after coming to a realization about what it means to be human.

is this accurate?

Joi is treated as a dog.
He tells her "stay" several times. Deckard tells his dog "stay" in a echo of these earlier scenes.
She is, in a sense, programmed to love but this doesn't mean that she is or isn't sentient. It doesn't mean their relationship is completely empty, it's just limited.

The film never really brings up the topic of sentience in any substantial way. It's more about memory, authenticity, and what is needed to have a life worth living (or dying) for.

Try chatting up the QT CIA agent on the other end

What lessons can men draw from 2049 though, other than to avoid roasties?

Is there a cautionary tale about the commodification of women, or what? The first film ended with Deckard and Rachel celebrating their newly embraced personhood together and trying to start a family. It didn't work out, but at least it cemented Deckard's understanding of truth and reality, which allowed him to make some very hard decisions later on. K, on the other hand, has everything stripped away, and is basically left choosing between suicide, martyrdom, and an eternal Replicant jihad.

If this film is supposed to speak to our generation like the first one spoke to Boomers, it sure has a bleak message.

Do you happen to be oppressing your wife?

yes, there are some women who don't know feminine penises exist.

Is Goose really autistic like us, or is it just a meme? Either way, he's certified kino.

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Where are you getting all this info about them being on different channels? As far as what happens in the movie itself, there's no real info on how Jois are made. What makes you so sure that she can't transcend her programming? Both her and K are made by the same company. K was supposed to be a new line of replicant that won't disobey and yet he does. If you can accept that K has free will and is capable of love, why not Joi?

If her only directive is to help K, then wiping her central data is essential.


Whether their relationship was valid, or completely dakimakura-tier one sided, is kind of irrelevant. She existed for K when he still considered himself a soulless automaton, so for her to be a wind up lovebot fit his self-worth. But realizing he was a free agent forced him to leave her behind, whether she was a person or not.

I still think, though, that her role as a domestic love maid makes the most sense thematically if she did ultimately turn out to be a kitchen appliance with cute eyes. That makes the bridge scene more impactful, and cements the significance of K's journey to self understanding.

>ywn have a joi holo gf to help you shitpost on Sup Forums

gay

That it was a lie he wanted to believe in.

>be K, replicant
>have shitty job
>shitty apartment
>but you have a gf, sort of
>greets you when you come home
>she can't cook but tries her best to disguise your shitty food
>in this horrible world where everyone hates you, you manage to find some solace

I just want them both to find happiness, why why why

purge all journalists when? they're fucking worthless hacks.

luv kills joi

kinographíe

You see her crotch but it is just a super smooth patch of skin, you can't make out the lips

So either Ana Des Armas has a perfect vagina or they edited it out

No. Wtf.
But my opinion is that people in general, and specially company executives that only look at numbers, really need to understand how fucking hard it is to even make the decision to have a child when you're basically afraid to lose your job in a shit country.
There are very few countries where a female can actively pursue a "top shot" career while having a moderate sized family: 2 or 3 kids.
Most woman with high profile job and high education end up having barely any children, basically because of ultra-feminism bullshit that is about empowerment instead of being about equality of opportunities.

I mean different channels in terms of their sentience.

Replicant obedience is a matter of conditioning, not biology, that's the point of the baseline voight-kampff CELLS INTERLINKED test. Under severe emotional duress, replicants break their conditioning and can go rogue, that's the entire point of Blade Runners.

Maybe K also becomes unsure of Joi's status near the end there, but I didn't see her do anything to demonstrate a higher state than a waifu AI trying to make her owner feel special. The fact that, when K mistakenly believes he's the Kwizatz Haderach or whatever, she names him Joe. Only special replicants get names, K says, but the one he gets is the default name that Joi-line holograms use for their 'customers'.

If you want to get into Turing tests and shit this argument can go on forever, but in terms of K's story, it makes the most sense, and it seems supported by those revealing lines.

i actually fuckin tensed up when this happened. choking back tears.

>street advertisements can't recognize your face in 2049

this movie is a shit on so many levels

>bothering to customize your street advertisement for Replicants

If Robin Wright were out there it would have turned into a giant Doctor Manhattan and asked how her day was at the police station while flexing his pecs.

i hope it's on the director's cut

I'm not gonna deny that what you're saying makes sense. The movie is at least smart enough to not really give a definitive answer on this, and other matters. I look forward to seeing the movie a second time with a different perspective.

But user he did find happiness, he finally realized in the end what in his life was real and what was fake.

Women were a mistake.