How do we fix western cartoons ?

How do we fix western cartoons ?

Make her boobs bigger.

Let the Japanese handle them.

Allow tits like in anime. Boom, you just quadrupled the audience

This

Pander more, there's not enough pandering.

Get in the industry and see what you can offer instead of whining

The viewers must spend more money buying anything related to good shows

put money,time and effort into them

PUT JOHN K IN CHARGE

Looks great, no need for improving.

Learn from the French. Dial up the fetishes to 11

Two words.

FULL. PENETRATION.

>put really big boobies and other fetishes in the show, no one will notice the lack in writing quality to care

>add pretty details to everything, no one will notice the lack of animation and abuse of reusing keyframes

>give in a speech about ideals, no one will notice it has nothing to really do with what's going on or how pretentious it sounds

>make the girls really, REALLY, adorable, no one will notice the lack of personality and how one-note they are and how they were only created to fill in a fetish quota

BOOM, just made a million dollaroos faggots

>all of these "add boobies" posts
I can't tell if you guys are joking or not.

wish we were

Fire every single person in charge of Nickelodeon, Cartoon Network, and the Disney channels, along with Spongebob, and, better yet, erase all existence of Teen Titans Go.

Then get actually talented cartoonists to make genuinely good cartoons, especially more action ones.

WITH BIG HONKING TITTIES!

>oppai pandering
>noone even mentions DFC pandering

You need both if you want to really bring in the money.

Netflix. Not even memeing

wait a minute...

Every female character looks good with tits
>Titty Pearl
>Titty Peridot
>Titty Nicole Watterson
>Titty Mabel
>Titty xj9
You get it?

Anime asses aren't good. You can tell that they really don't have a good grasp on what makes THICC work beyond "make the clothing cling to the asses and shove them into the camera". Sup Forums won't like this, but the rise of THICC appreciation directly results from the ride of Afro-american (aka Africa and South America) influence over modern day culture. Not that Asians and Europoors can't into thick, oftentimes they do it better than the rest of 'em, but Asian pop culture doesn't properly understand how to appreciate the booty.

It's a fucking artform and Japan's playing with crayons.

>add pretty details to everything, no one will notice the lack of animation and abuse of reusing keyframes

>give in a speech about ideals, no one will notice it has nothing to really do with what's going on or how pretentious it sounds

So how did the cryo-experiment work out for you? Are you enjoying the 21st century, or did you just mistakenly think you were posting on Sup Forums? What I never understood was how audiences just accepted them favoring ease of animation over art. It's certantly more noticeable. It annoys me that they don't seem to understand that preaching anti-morals is as annoying as preaching morals, too.

Shit, you're right

Also throw in a brown girl too, it doesn't matter if she's actually brown or just it's just a tan, people likely won't call you out for the latter because people will be too busy jerking it to her, since ambiguously brown girls are also a fetish too

>South America
>Afro-american
Stop

>brown girls
Nah, they are lame. What we needs is more cats. Cats with big tits

Cats you say...

Yeah I could but I would be crushed by executives telling me to make cartoons to sell toys

More dinosaurs

I want my good guy carnivores.

LESBIANS

Fuck it, to be honest just furry shit in general will sell.

Theres a reason why stuff like micky mouse were the first big hits.

Stuff like zootopia still sells in present day.

We all do, especially if it's Chomper

You are Umasu

What's Umasu mean?

-Hire French animators for 2D animation
-No censoring(I noticed CN stopped censoring their movies. Great job)
-Create more shows from old fun books(Bunnicula is really cute)
-Take a risk and attempt a 2D animation for movie theatres. Get not only the kids interested, but the parents re-interested as well
-I know it's long and expensive, but draw more detailed characters. No more simple shapes
-Lay off the whole story arc thing for awhile. For new IPs, try going the classic route for cartoons
-Don't apologize if your animation(s) offend somebody
-I wouldn't mind seeing a 2D porn industry in the west. Sometimes the plot in these thing get good, but only a few companies in America made some over the years
-Instead of anthro characters, try more feral characters
-Not only do you need to lay off on all these reboot ideas, lay off SPECIFICALLY on 3D and live action reboots. You already pissed on Alvin and the Smurfs, why are you raping NIHM?
-Open up a TVblock for comic book shows/movies. I know they've done this for DC, but a permanent schedule would be nice

delicious

So Umasu is Umami? Either way, thanks for the explanation. I honestly wasn't expecting to get one.

Same way you fix all media: Remove executives.

Agree, western cartoon girls already have interesting forms and cute faces, most good porn artists draw them on model but slightly taller and just add Tits, and presto, They look adorable AND fuckable.

>Instead of anthro characters, try more feral characters
But why? Toon antros are way better.

It's a movie about a trex that adopts a baby ankylosaur

Anime gets shit rating though, they rely on a small group of whales.

>they look adorable and fuckable
This. Western girl have good desings. They just need tits.

>2d film

it's not coming back man. sorry. you just can't get someone with money to decided to make less money at a slower rate.

>Toon antros are way better.
Excuse me?

...

Ahhh, gotcha.

>it's not coming back man. sorry.
Oh believe me, I'm aware. It was a stupid suggestion. But anything could happen, doubt it'll be anytime soon. France made a few for their theaters, just wish someone could translate/dub some of them.

Feral are for furfags. Toons are for everyone.

>Get rid of the Story Development process, unless you're rich or Disney, the story department can fucking break your project.
>Do like the Japanese did and make everything simplistic motion-wise during dialog scenes, and put everything on the ''action'' scenes.
>Get rid of gross-out humor, pop culture reference and >muh philosophical ironies bullshit.
>Stop outsourcing everything out to fucking Korea.

2D is not expensive at all. The only reason it's not used anymore is because 3D is more appealing to people, aka it looks like candy on the screen.

And this why I have grown to despise anime, anime refuse to grow up and get its shit together.

Winsor McCay was a genius.

That is all.

>make everything simplistic motion-wise during dialog scenes
Current cartoons are like this

Have it be taken seriously by the west.
Which will never happen cause westerners are too obessed with comin

wut

with coming off as mature despite not actually being mature.

Can't be recommended highly enough.

This small piece of fanart has better animation than the source material. The way her hands move, the little thump when she changes her pose, the ears moving. Cartoons in the 90s and early 2000s could do this so why not modern cartoons?

Archer already goes the route of simple scenes for more complicated action. Plus most cartoons these have gotten rid of story and are "storyboard driven" aka story is just sticky notes on the wall.

Mainly because the little flourishes that really make animation sparkle require it be done in-house. When you make Koreans do all your inbetweening they don't bother.

Then maybe we should make our animation industry more independent. Maybe Trump's xenophobic business ideals can be put to good use.

Furry shit is already everywhere so I rather have something different

It pretty sad isn't, So much unfilmable stuff could be made if animation was taken more serious.

Do you have any facts to back that up old man?

Why is it that it took for japan to make a dinosaur film with carnivore protag, when all western films, seem to constantly fall back on herbivores, over and over again?

Making American TV animation more expensive won't do anything but hasten its death.

I mean unless the govt. wanted to subsidize it.

>Furry shit is already everywhere
There are like 2 cartoons with toons animals (Gumball and Harvey) and that is all.

I think it's that a lot of modern animators are just plain untalented. The storyboarders for SU can't stay on model to save their lives.

Agreed.

In Japan it works because animators are driven by passion and love for the medium so they accept being paid pennies.

Artist in the west usually have massive egos and expect to be treated like royalty, leading to shit being more expensive and less stuff being made.

You can even see this in the independent scene, Japan absolutely destroys any other country when it comes to fan-comics and fanart. Their commission prices are half the average prices of a westerner.

>it's that a lot of modern animators are just plain untalented
Post your work.

>nottu dis shittu aginnu

>In Japan it works because animators are driven by passion and love for the medium so they accept being paid pennies.

Which is sad considering like only 10% of percent of anime is good.

Yes, but when Japan gets 100+ new shows a year, that ten percent amounts to far more than the west makes in the last decade

>Artist in the west usually have massive egos and expect to be treated like royalty, leading to shit being more expensive and less stuff being made.
>implying expecting to be paid enough money to buy food and shelter is being "treated like royalty"

You're a fucking retard and I would like to see you starve to death in a box. Fucking Trump-voting trash.

You're a complete faggot for using that dA tier argument. Despite that I will anyways.
It ain't great, but I'm learning, I'm climbing and I won't stop.

Western cartoons are already swamped with flat

Looks good. Now post your animations.

>all these "add hot girls" posts
>implying 70% of the cartoon fandom ins't girls from tumblr

I haven't done much of that, I did some pixel animation for a game I tried making. The challenge was more from photoshop's shitty gif making process.

Destroy Cal Arts, or at least change Cal Arts so that not every cartoon these days looks the same

Not him but toon-like antros and animals get more and better art than ferals animals or realistic antros

>>"Post your work"
>Artist really does it
>Their work looks more interesting than your own drawings
Great, now I feel like shit. Are you happy now?

You the guy who asked me to? Either way don't fret dude. You just gotta keep doing it, try drawing from life it really improved my anatomy.

>ask for the work of a user
>get jealous because their work is better then your
>the fauult is from the user that posted what you asked

Are you retarded?

Not the quoted.

You missed the point, retard.
Or you just never commissioned from a western artist

>Yeah I know this is one time commission work but I need to support myself you know, I know you're one person but I need a company level salary

You're joking right? I don't feel like listing majority of cartoons and movies with all that shit but even recently you have Sing

>8 fps, instead of at least 10 fps
Yeah, no

>You the guy who asked me to?
Yeah

>You just gotta keep doing it, try drawing from life it really improved my anatomy
I've tried almost everything for 10 years expect drawing from life. I'd do it, but I'm afraid to draw people I see without them thinking I'm a stalker. Is there another way?

No, I'm not. Shut up.

Well aside from my life drawing classes I'd just use quickpose or photos of real people online. Honestly though drawing people on the streets isn't stalkerish, go to a coffee shop and no one will bat an eye.
Post your stuff.

I was talking about recent cartoons.

>go to a coffee shop and no one will bat an eye.
Alright, thanks.

>Post your stuff
Kind of paranoid someone will recognize my work. A few people I know lurk here, but they don't know I do. Would you making a request and me drawing it be a better alternative?

Anime in one sentence

Free art? Alright
Draw Alena from Dragon Quest 4 pls

I'll try. I'm no where near a tablet so I have to use my shitty phone.

make her fat if u wanna, i'm okey otherwise tho

Alright. This may take awhile, I'm too slow.