Sup Forums is a libertarian board

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The party of Ron Paul turned into the party of Political Correctness and WEED BRO.
The Libertarian movement died when Ron Paul lost the nomination in 2012.

Libertarianism is dead and Gary Johnson killed it.

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No nigga, we are still here, and you don't know shit, fucking newfag

I'm a fascist and you can't make me leave.

>we are still here
Where we you when they nominated a fucking retard pothead?

it isn't. libertarian is founded on the premise that humans are purely individualistic, we aren't and this is something most of Sup Forums understands on some level.

libertarianism died with Rothbard

no its not.

its a facist board.

neo-nazi's and fascists are the most prolific posters.

Libertarians hardly even rate.

Will Ron Paul be a Supreme Court Justice under Trump?

That's how I found the forum today from this link I read on twitter.

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>the old Sup Forums is a hive mind meme

most of Sup Forums's "neonazis" are just memelords though

Crying in a curled up ball. The pothead part is fine, but the antigun open borders seems to me to be completely opposite of libertarianism. Johnson is fucking awful.

checking on what the get was

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libertarians acknowledge this, they just prefer voluntary groups that ebb and flow naturally as opposed to mandated rigid groups that become abrasive when society moves

Obviously, doing so would violate the NAP

of course not. No way Trump would install someone who would vote to limit executive power.

>fascist weeb
>too dumb to see the irony that his cartoons would be banned in a fascist government

Fucking retard. You're just a misguided teenager.

Start spending less time on Sup Forums and reading more books about politics.

I gave up on being a libertarian when I realized that it is just a feel good name for an AnCap.

Any libertarian who follows actual libertarian principles becomes an AnCap. The ones that don't because left-libertarian faggots like Johnson.

>Implying it wouldn't be fascist ruling entirely through bread and circus anime propaganda

Step it up senpai, this is the eventual goal of those japs.

>implying Hitler wasn't a weeb

what about the libertarians that become minarchist?

Sorry, OP. Libertarianism is an irrelevant ideology in today's society. It only works with a homogeneous nation-state, but we don't have that.

>libertarian is founded on the premise that humans are purely individualistic, we aren't and this is something most of Sup Forums understands on some level.
You're thinking of anarchism, not libertarianism, don't get the terms confused. Humans working collectively in countries and nations does not mean free enterprise doesn't work, because it obviously does. Adam Smith argued for the invisible hand to help all of society, not just individuals.

Libertarian is stupid. We need a strong state to make sure there is an everlasting traditional social order. Otherwise, degeneration is inevitable.

God bless

>Sup Forums is a libertarian board

Stop trying to put a label on everything, you sound like a fucking sjw.

I reject your choice of social order
if you don't leave me be, I will fight your state

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Japanese Animation is a form of race-traitorship. Especially those who become weeaboos and then don't reproduce because they don't need "real women"

Modern facism would be built around Brave New World placation of primal needs, not uniformity. You could argue we already live in a fascist society given the closeness of government and the leading corporations.

It's ironic to see people like this talk about how we need government to crack on "degeneracy" while they shitpost on a Mongolian wood carving board full of porn, anime, and degeneracy, all the while crying about how King Nigger is trying to censor people and that we shouldn't give away the internet.

I think most of those type just realize in anarchy police forces and other government type things will be necessary and have the same power whether they're government or not so they're just like we can call it government or not it doesn't really matter

Too bad there are no real libertarians left, all the Ron Paul fans are full on NatSoc now, And you should be too.

>he doesn't believe in Divine Right
I'm not a regular here anyways, I wouldn't be too upset about this site disappearing. After all, there are many degeneracies promoted here.

>You could argue we already live in a fascist society given the closeness of government and the leading corporations.
that's like saying you could say we live in a communist society because we pay taxes.

i.e. you don't know what the fuck you're talking about

no i'm thinking libertaianism and generic conservatism in general

libertarianism assumes that society and government are more or less a byproduct of individuals interacting at a larger scale. they might believe in the existence of a state but not the nation and ultimately fail to see the tribal nature of mankind.

it fails for the exact opposite reasons communism fails.

if you're not a regular then gtfo with your proselytizing, newfag

I'm not new, I've been visiting here since 2012. But recently I've come here less and less because I enjoy life more and more.

I reject your God, too.

well aren't you a regular oldfag. How about you back up those words of yours with some actions and leave.

Its not censorship through oppression but distraction, not control through propaganda but incentive. The cabal is not in fact a nation, but a group of rootless multinationals with complete control now of most of the economy and flows of money.

You can do next to nothing to change or challenge their power, they freely influence media, education, entertainment to their wills. They are insulated almost completely from the political systems of countries and will resume patronizing of them once things have settled. They very much decide what happens in foreign policy, and what warrants spending the blood of citizens.

Now you tell me that you are free and in control and that really if you wanted to go in a direction that this cabal did not, you had the option too. The fact is you don't.

yeah, yeah, I visit lainchan too. But that's not fascism, that's oligarchy. You have conflated you're criticisms of what you believe are the perils of fascism with what fascism actually is.

What the fuck are you even talking about. The United States works as a nation and as a state. The US is different from other countries in that people from all over the world exist here and still identify as "American." The same cannot be said about Europe, where if a German moved to Britain, he would still be a German first. Libertarians in the US mostly want to reduce the power the government has over the economy to what it used to be (which also works considering that the US became the biggest power on the planet thanks to its strong and free market). Why don't you look at reality instead of clinging to muh tribe.

I'm just arguing the international community of states is now controlled akin very much to facism. It is a small group of actors basically controlling the incentives and actions of all other states and citizenry. Yes you are free to think and act as you are on a national level. But you are not free to found new currencies, not free get actual capitalism away from the protections almost all western countries now have for the top firms. And you could posit that maybe one day you might be rich enough to enter such a system of control but that's not going to happen.

The control of a handful of multinationals on the governments of nations is so ironclad now that you are unlikely to see anything that majorly challenges globalization in decades. Yes these recent political movements have, but they will be re-purposed or retooled from within, or crushed through saturation like you see today with Trump, and be short lived pressure releases rather than trend reversals. Things will only get more cucked in 10 years.

Ultimately this oligarchical group has fascist levels of control over the international outcomes of the world and its systems.

The Libertarian Party died with Ron.

It was back during Ron Paul, I loved that guy, he would stand up to anybody for anything.

His son sold out to establishment conservatives and his party sold out to establishment democrats. Libertarianism is dead currently.

Lol you'll lose, because my state will have millions of like-minded people with common ideals and experiences willing to die for each other, and you and your buddies can't even agree what round of ammo to use.

People acting in an optimally calculated way prescribed by genius leaders is better than everyone trying to figure everything out themselves. 50% of people acting in the way a top 1% genius would in their position is better than 1% acting the way a top 1% genius would.

I agree with his post and I've been here for like 7 years, so I'd say you lack an argument.

Libertarianism in its current form is cucked to the max.

You do realize the roman catholic bible was compiled with these kind of messages because the emperors wanted to push this kind of shit right?

if that's the case, why are we not speaking German?

Leaving aside the fact that when your idea has been applied to economics it has consistently lost to free markets composed of individuals acting in their own self-interest.

I love muh weed, guns, cocaine, 2D porn, completely free speech, and especially muh borders and muh constitution.

We ain't dead. We just gave up on an irreparable system. Good men can't get elected anymore because fair elections no longer exist and good natured candidates can't compete with the psychopathy running for office today.

Look who's running for POTUS.
A narcissistic billionaire sociopathic asshole, and Donald "Look at me!" Trump.

Ron Pauls don't even get elected to state houses anymore.

When was the last time we had a legit military man as president? How can you even be allowed to command the US military at the highest level without having done full military service FFS?

God is a meme

>first paragraph
show me in the ideological or practical doctrines of any fascist institution where any of that is deemed an integral part of the system and how that differentiates itself from other systems of government.

>second
How is that discretely fascist and not oligarchical?

>Ultimately this oligarchical group has fascist levels of control over the international outcomes of the world and its systems.
There it is. Again
>You have conflated you're criticisms of what you believe are the perils of fascism with what fascism actually is.
You cannot say that we live in a fascist society. You can argue that we live in a society (and world for that matter) in which the problems inherent are similar problems that were recognized in the practical application of fascist ideologies to states and thus used to dismiss fascism as a "good" political system.

Don't use boogeyman words to argue. You just sound fucking dumb.

>When was the last time we had a legit military man as president?
Dubya, eight years ago. It was shit.

So then why is Sup Forums so directly opposed to degeneracy and individual rights?
Honestly Sup Forums is more conservative than libertarian , ignoring the fact that americans don't know what conservatism actually is.

Don't even know if he counts, he was like air national guard and didn't show up to half his deployments, which would have been office deployments either way.

Air National Guard isn't full-time service.

Individual rights trump all, as long as the individual is an american individual that supports american culture and has americanesque goals, otherwise they can get fucked.

You need to watch the Liberty Report f4m. He's really been shitting on Johnson lately.

WOW CTR THAT REALLY MADE ME THINK
ABOUT YOU KILLING YOURSELF

pol supports Trump because libertarian societies don't work when you have too many non-whites

>So then why is Sup Forums so directly opposed to degeneracy and individual rights?
Because we joked around about the fascism stuff and a buncha retarded REAL fascists discovered the board and mistakenly thought they were in good company.
Now, THEY are the vocal minority.

This is the drawback of acting like an idiot. Real idiots take you seriously.

You're right I'm drunk and fascist is a poor word choice, you can't blame me for misusing when the leftards pull it out their ass at every opportunity at any mention of mild nationalism. Anyways I was saying the free agency of states has been jeopardized to the point that there may as well be a single one world government with strict laws given states are unlikely ever to act against the interest of the oligarchs.

I mean if game theory and incentive basically dictates a set of stone strong rules for what a state can and cannot do, and thus what political decisions its people can ultimately accomplish, then there is little functional difference besides international oligarchy and international fascism besides level of centralization.

Sup Forums was never libertarian, even in the Ron Paul days. Sup Forums just likes memes. They like any candidate that other people don't like, who's disruptive of the status quo and makes stuffed-suit types uncomfortable. Sup Forums has no real positions or allegiance, it'll go contrary to which ever way the establishment winds blow.

>W
>Legit military man
Fuck are you thinking

You can say "X doesn't work when you have too many non-whites" about any system though, it's not libertarian exclusive.

>You're right I'm drunk and fascist is a poor word choice,
Admittance is the first step to remediation.

>Anyways I was saying the free agency of states has been jeopardized to the point that there may as well be a single one world government with strict laws given states are unlikely ever to act against the interest of the oligarchs.
Eeeeh, maybe. Oligarchs play a dangerous game though, and the shitty ones usually end up getting dragged through streets eventually.

>I mean if game theory and incentive basically dictates a set of stone strong rules for what a state can and cannot do
Politics is more than mathematical models.

>then there is little functional difference besides international oligarchy and international fascism besides level of centralization.
This is an oversimplification, specifically in the way that rulers influence its peoples, and disregards the ideological basis of both systems.

Shittier populations require more authoritarian controls, it's a fact of life.

Our population composition has gone to absolute shit, and thus a Trump is needed to deport the scum.

The problem is, Trump isn't actually going to do that, because (((they))) won't allow it.
He's just telling you retards this to get your vote.

Even if he was actually serious, he's got the entire rest of the corrupt government in his way PLUS any threats against his family the spooks give him.
Never forget the video of the Kennedy assassination that no one outside of spooks and presidents has ever seen. You know the one, from the actual shooter's perspective?

It's like I said. Good men do not get elected. They can't. They're too good to do what's needed to win by their nature.

I've always thought that all the Libertarian party needs is a celebrity to run. Which celebrity could take the reigns and win?

Funny you say that when whites vote for big authoritarian leftist government in every European country barring Switzerland, and even they had a surprising amount of support for that laughable universal basic income.

They can flip a coin for who gets VP

Imagine the theatrics at debates.