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Of course, there are also the fundie Protestants with the Creationist Museum. Even though they're a bit dense, I actually prefer them.

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yeah so what? jesus murdered children. cathcucks are still mary and pope worshiping heretics

>jesus murdered children

[citation needed]

>comes on a Christian board and shitposts for attention

Not much going on in your life, kiddo?

>jesus murdered children

He's referencing the apocryphal Gospels, like the Gnostic ones

literally bible fanfiction then

I know, but that might as well be fan fiction. The Bible is the Bible, and those who decided what books it contained were blessed by God and aided in the decision making process.

If its not in the Bible, its not Canon. Simple as that.

Great trips

>Lutheran

Fuckign hell I've met many lutherans and Calvinists and they both deny free will, both denominations sided with the Turks in Battle of Vienna.

Heretics all of them. They are not good people. I would know I really would.

>lutherans
Not even once

>Know that Marriage is an outward material thing like any other secular business.

>But the woman is free through the divine law and cannot be compelled to suppress her carnal desires. Therefore the man ought to concede her right and give up to somebody else the wife who is his only in outward appearance.

>Suppose I should counsel the wife of an impotent man, with his consent, to giver herself to another, say her husband’s brother, but to keep this marriage secret and to ascribe the children to the so-called putative father. The question is: Is such a women in a saved state? I answer, certainly

>I confess that I cannot forbid a person to marry several wives, for it does not contradict the Scripture. If a man wishes to marry more than one wife he should be asked whether he is satisfied in his conscience that he may do so in accordance with the word of God. In such a case the civil authority has nothing to do in the matter.

>Christ committed adultery first of all with the women at the well about whom St. John tells us. Was not everybody about Him saying: ‘Whatever has He been doing with her?’ Secondly, with Mary Magdalen, and thirdly with the women taken in adultery whom He dismissed so lightly. Thus even, Christ who was so righteous, must have been guilty of fornication before He died.

>Christian
>and a feminist

This is from a woman who teaches at a Jesuit institution
>"All-male images of God are hierarchical images rooted in the unequal relation between women and men," she writes. "Once women no longer relate to men as patriarchal fathers, lords, and kings in society, these images become religiously inadequate. Instead of evoking the reality of God, they block it."[8]

>protestant of any kind wearing tattoos

She's not following the Bible literally, therefore she's not Protestant and a shitty pastor. Who cares.

So Jesus was gettin' some stanky on his hang down on the reg now?

Christ cuck by definition? This is a cluster B (((pastor))).

>"You see these tats and sleeveless shirt and my lesbianess? But you know what's cooler than that? Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ." Fucking edgey as shit.

Dude she is cringe as fuck.

Protestants don't think salvation requires faith + works, they believe you require only faith.

She's an attention seeking whore. No one with better things to do would dress like that.

>heavily tattooed

lmao this is a phrase that us in the biz use for a person who has a fucking bodysuit.

You can't be heavily tattooed and have like 5 or 6 palm sized tattooes on your arms.

I hate this dyke.

>I'm a little bit sarcastic

How to spot a bitch.

All the gospels are fanfiction

Not really. Even if you're suggesting their fictional, "fanfiction" is a term used to contrast fiction written outside of the official fictional canon, with fiction inside the official fictional canon.

*tips fedora*

Who else /conservativepentecostal/ here?

> divorce is shamed very publicly
> ridiculous social pressure on girls to marry before 25 and become housewives
> no women in leadership
> 3:1 ratio of girls to guys in 18-25 age bracket

Seriously, you guys can come to my church. I'll introduce you to some slavic qt3.14's

Its in one of the lost books of the bible that the church removed. There's a story that tells when Jesus was young, he killed another boy for knocking him over.

> written 300-400 years after
> not corroborated by synoptic gospels

Literally not scripture.

all religious texts are fiction

>lutherans
not even once

Quit LARPing as Catholics you faggots. The Vatican is far too busy replacing your race with room temperature IQ shitskins to start another crusade.

You're hard pressed to find a Church that's not anti-white. Even one that doesn't support faggots these days will send your tithe money to niggers in Africa.

Stop taking fedora memes seriously and realize religions are bullshit. Grow up, take care of your family and your race.

>and those who decided what books it contained were blessed by God and aided in the decision making process.

[citation needed] they were just mostly normal turkish priests who choosed possibly at random among the available texts. The texts in the bible are not the oldest or best sourced

True, which is why they view homosexuality as OK even though it's a sin.

Consider the Orthodox

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Cool - and for the vast majority of Anglos Orthodoxy is as artificial as neo-paganism.

I'm gonna go ahead and put multiverse theory in that category, seeing as its a non-falsifiable hypothesis with no empirical evidence

>Christ didn't do enough for me to enter heaven
>Thanks for dying I guess, but I'm gonna enter heaven because I helped that old woman once

Could you imagine a bigger slap in the face of Christ?

Also, explain to me how works got the thief on the cross into heaven? He had faith and Jesus said they will meet again in paradise.

>Lutheran
Who the hell cares? Are they even considered protestant?

Prince Charles loves it

>degenerate dikes

I bet, only read and believes the parts she likes

>>But the woman is free through the divine law and cannot be compelled to suppress her carnal desires. Therefore the man ought to concede her right and give up to somebody else the wife who is his only in outward appearance.

What a cuck.

>Could you imagine a bigger slap in the face of Christ?
Yeah, using him like a credit card and saying it doesn't matter if you follow his commands regarding lifestyle

>Also, explain to me how works got the thief on the cross into heaven? He had faith and Jesus said they will meet again in paradise.
Thief on the cross didn't find the faith until he was at the doorstep of death. Do you think, if the adulteress Christ saved, continued to live in lust and fornication, she would have been saved?

Daily reminder that the Pope is planning in celebrating Reformation Day with the Church of Sweden next year

A gay Christian pastor she's literally ISIS bait.

It's like a Jewish version of Christianity.

works are the natural fruits of faith

to say otherwise is to tarnish the gift of grace by treating it as debt

To have faith without works is to tarnish the gift of grace, friend.

that's not tarnishing the gift of grace

it's just an indicator that you're not saved in the first place

>it's just an indicator that you're not saved
Guess faith alone doesn't do the trick, then

He also loves little boys

t. tabloid

>what is pedowood
>what is epstein pedo island
>what is MKULTRA

By these standards, Trump is a pedophile

Nobody ever said he was perfect. He IS an oligarch, you know, so there's good reason to be suspicious of him for that reason.

but it does

faith is the means by which we find salvation
works are the means by which we provide testament; proof of our faith

So faith is useless without works, right?

>science makes god look kind of cool

I'm attempting to point out a critical nuance.

The catholic who believes that if they do not do good works then they will go to hell has a flawed reasoning.

Good works should be something that comes naturally if you are saved, because a good tree cannot bear bad fruit.

The works themselves are not relevant to salvation at all and have no bearing on grace. They are simply the result that follows with sanctification.

So salvation is determinist? Do you have free will to *not* do these works, or, once you are in Christ, do you have no other choice?

>rolling on the floor while shouting gibberish is Christian

Fuck you man, you are not even saved

Also, this shows that faith alone doesn't save you, since even if you have faith, if you don't have your name in the hat, you're out of luck.

You have the free will to accept grace, and once you do, you are a forever changed person.

26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.
27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.
Ezekiel 36:26-27

God has place in an investment in you that cannot be undone and you wouldn't want it to be undone at that point anyway.

The three phases of this are
justification -> removal of the penalty of sin
sanctification -> removal of the power of sin
and finally
absolute glorification -> removal of the presence of sin

Sanctification means that, while you may still stumble into sin, you can no longer find sanctuary in it because of your changed nature.

No, it is very much faith that saves you. "By grace, through faith." Your name isn't in the hat if you don't have faith in the first place.

>The three phases of this are
Could you quote where in Scripture the three phases are laid out?

>No, it is very much faith that saves you. "By grace, through faith." Your name isn't in the hat if you don't have faith in the first place.
Right, everyone in the hat either has or gains faith. But not everyone who has faith is in the hat.

>Could you quote where in Scripture the three phases are laid out?
You can reach these conclusions from in depth study of Romans 1 to 8.

imputation of righteousness and no condemnation in Romans 4-5
the end of the reign of sin in Romans 6
becoming direct creations of God (i.e Adam was a direct creation, his sons were not) in Romans 8

You could literally study Romans for years and still learn new things about it all of the time.

Like the works talked about in it are works of the Mosaic Law, not works in general?

>fundie

Hey, welcome, OP. Your journey from 2003 must have been rough. You all rested up?

You won't find much about works in the context you're asking about in epistle to the Romans.

My reasoning on faith and works comes from other parts of the Bible, however, the part about becoming a direct creation of God is a really good argument in favor of why I believe you cannot lose your salvation.

You asked about the phases I mentioned earlier, I got my understanding of them from there.

It is the mosaic law that is talked about in the early parts of the epistle, in which, from my memory, Paul makes the argument that it's useless to live by them because they can only condemn you (because you obviously can't stand up to their standard, only Christ can). Of which he arrives at the conclusion that the law serves to show you your sin and even cause you to actually sin more, not less.

Do you have the freedom to reject your salvation?

Are people who have faith but not works, saved?

You cant really kill people if you can also resurrect them

>Do you have the freedom to reject your salvation?
Not once you truly accept Grace. I would say no. But once again, if you have accepted Grace, why would you want to?

>Are people who have faith but not works, saved?
Yes. However, their works is a reflection/indicator of the state their faith. So while works has no effect on Grace, you should see it in the saved. And again, the Bible does say you can tell the genuineness of an individual by their fruits.

Another dimension to this is inheritance. Just because you are saved does not mean you actually inherit anything in the kingdom of God. This is my understanding of 1 Corinthians 3. In addition Romans 8, which makes the claim that you can literally become a joint-heir with Christ, which I don't even think we can fully comprehend, but there is a huge if attached.

Could you explain what "grace" is, exactly? In Orthodoxy, it just means God's immanence.

>However, their works is a reflection/indicator of the state their faith.
I've known plenty of people who have a ton of faith in Jesus, but fornicate left and right.

> This is my understanding
I think maybe you should take a step back from this.

The Kingdom of God is synonymous with the Church, hence why Christ said it's among you.

>Not worshipping Mary

>Believing that anything but an eternity of suffering and pain awaits you in the afterlife

>nigger that look like a god damn man
>i'm christian but i'm not ignorant
i don't think pepe can save you

>Could you explain what "grace" is, exactly?

God's gift to man to mend man's relationship with God in such a way that satisfies God's sovereignty, mercy and just nature.

>have a ton of faith in Jesus
I can only say they should re-examine their relationship with God, make sure that they acknowledge what they're doing is wrong, repent from it as well as point to 1 Cor 6:9-11.

>I think maybe you should take a step back from this.
You could be right about the last part. I've never understood it that way.

>God's gift to man to mend man's relationship with God in such a way that satisfies God's sovereignty, mercy and just nature.
I mean what *is* it, exactly. Do you see it has God himself, or as a created yet invisible force? What?

>I can only say they should re-examine their relationship with God, make sure that they acknowledge what they're doing is wrong, repent from it as well as point to 1 Cor 6:9-11.
But they're not going to because they've been taught a theology that no matter what they do, it's guaranteed to be forgiven, and all that matters is that they have faith, and belief that that no matter what they do, it will be forgiven, is part of that faith. As far as remedying their behavior, they've been taught that behavior is of zero importance, because it's "works," and those do not affect salvation.

I see it as an enacted plan for which man is able to achieve true peace with God.

Since it is part of the word of God, I suppose you can say it is God/part of God, but I've never thought of it like that nor do I see the relevance.

>they've been taught a theology that no matter what they do, it's guaranteed to be forgiven
Then they have poor theological understanding, just as the Catholic who thinks they will go to hell if they don't participate in [x] sacrament has poor theological understanding.

Grace is not a license to sin just because there is no condemnation for those in Jesus Christ.

I am going to bed now though, user. It was nice arguing with you.

Faith != Believing

Faith, from latin Fides, root of Fidelitas, means to be loyal. Trusting with your intelligence (the "believing" part) is just the begining of the Faith. But believing alone doesn't constitute the act of Faith.

If you have time you should give this a watch, or at least fast forward to the questions It's ridiculous how far these people are willing to go to justify their immorality and James White doesn't let up on him.

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Didn't they say that there is nothing in the Bible forbidding homosexuality, and it's not a sin?
God wants us to love each other, and would never oppose love. We know homosexuals love each other, hence, the type of homosexuality talked about in the Bible is a different kind of homosexuality, not the kind we know today. Because God would never forbid love.

>Does not know the difference between eros and agape

Protestantism is the humane way to put god down.

God would be Protestant, if god.

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Wonder when we're going to see the "I'm Muslim, But I'm not" episode...Oh wait, Buzzfeed only specialises in undermining Western values.