RELIGION AMIRITE

>RELIGION AMIRITE
I know I shouldn't be rolling my eyes since this is par for the course of something trek related but sheesh.

Does star trek ever have anything positive to say about religion? Even Sisko was tired of that bajoran shit and though they depended on their beliefs and prophecies which let the spoonheads rape and murder them to that extent.

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The more religious a country is
The shittiest it gets
Just look at america

That's not Star Trek, fool. Also, religion was never a problem in Star Trek. The problem was always the shit people/races would do in the name of their religion.

Hmmmm....they don't include the names of muslim nations here. Really makes you think.

Yes, and?

oy vey that's [ideology]aphobic!

South Korea is super religious though? way to twist facts

>o, religion was never a problem in Star Trek
m8 religious people who were stuck in their beliefs were always portrayed as violent or ignorant.
Hell there's an episode where Picard ahs to bring enlightenment to a bunch of savages of vulakan like people who were mired in their religion.
The exception might have been voyager with its gay indian spirtual shit.

South Korea is garbage.

>Also, religion was never a problem in Star Trek. The problem was always the shit people/races would do in the name of their religion.
Uh maybe I'm a brainlet but that sounds like they had a problem with religion.

Really ? Source

kirk implied monotheism was still practiced on earth.

What do they mean by non religious though? In east Asian countries religion is so infused with the culture that most people would say they're not religious while actively practicing ancestor worship or engaging in Taoist inspired medical practices. There's also no consideration that maybe people turn to religion when they've lost everything else, which would imply the opposite causality than what you seem to be hinting at.

>Even Sisko was tired of that bajoran shit

Sisko became more accepting of the Bajoran religion and his role in it as the series progressed.

When Sisko was planning his wedding to Cassidy, she said her parents would want her to have a church wedding.

> All those christcuck, kike and goat fucker upset at that scene.

Glorious.

its talking about people who take religion to extremes same could be said for political ideologies or philosophies and the dangers of doing so.

Hence orville is some woke as deep shit mah niggas

Are you kidding? TNG literally had God pop up in multiple episodes and pretend to be a asshole while secretly helping and guiding humanity. Everybody loves him.

>Hmmmm....they don't include the names of muslim nations here. Really makes you think.
That would just make a worse case for religion

also in the future, i think it is like the federation and there is no religion as seen in the last episode.

seth is extreme in his belief that religion is bad, there's no way he meant anything else with this episode

>(((inequality)))

>seth is extreme in his belief that religion is bad, there's no way he meant anything else with this episode
if you look at the episode or religion as black and white it explains why you lack the ability to discuss the topic.

Who gives a fuck. That would be like comparing performance supercars: Buggatis, Koenigseggs, Paganis, and Saleens, and then tossing Kias and Hyundais into the mix.

>I've consumed that idea before, now I'm bored and want a new ideology to consume regardless of the logic of it

seth has a very black and white view on religion

youtube.com/watch?v=n6NPq_kPSUM

then voyager ruined him.

Isn't "woke" supposed to be an opinion that is rare, maybe even controversial? There is nothing controversial in saying "religion bad, science good". It's kind of a stale theme by now. Especially when the "technology" they compare to the stuff the religious people have is basically magic.

I so want to rub her ear ridges across my glans.

this was picard not wanting a religion based around him

>Girls are inferior to boys
>Islam is bad

Is Seth purposely trying to anger leftists?

Any one who has taken econometrics knows that graphs like these are very easy muniplate.

Remember doing a project talking about the effect of video games on crime. After plugging everything in, I used only the data sets that made the regression more significant.

I'm not saying Stats are pointless, but their is a reason they are using the inequality adjusted HDI instead of GDP per cap.

>The middle East and small religious European countries would dominate it.

>Islam is bad
Thinking Islam is bad is a big no-no for the left. Christianity, on the other hand, is fair game.

explain sweden

probably that they adhere to a religion but aren't practicing it
kinda like an agnostic

>>Girls are inferior to boys
Yeah that's exactly what seth was going for durr

>religious people who were stuck in their beliefs were always portrayed as violent or ignorant.
Like those violent reactionary Vulcans. Or those Bajorans, who had a bucolic pastoral lifestyle protected by 5th dimensional love ayy lmaos (before the spoon heads showed up).
Fuck even Kirk talks about Christianity, God, and Faith in TOS.

That entire episode was so weird and stupid. Just because a female of one species is basically equal in ability to a male of another doesn't prove anything about the females of the latter species. Why not compare female silverback gorillas to European bodybuilders, then? Also, this isn't necessarily a bad thing, but the moral of the story felt really really muddied by ... well, everything.

Even though it's just as political as regular star trek, if not more, it's honestly refreshing to not have the captain lecture everyone including the audience once an episode. And to see that in the future, not everyone has such a stick up their ass.

The IHDI or the non-religiousness?

>On the Enterprise, I was considered to be quite amusing.
>That must've been one dull ship.
>That is a joke. I get it. It is not funny, but I get it.
Star Trek has always had a sense of humor.

>anything extreme is bad XD
Doesn't that make you like a Sith or something master Qui Gon?

>the more religious a country is the shittier it gets
>sweden is less religious than usa
>has a worse hdi

>thailand
>worse because them being religious
>totally not because they're run by a dictator

Is that The Orville? Those ayylmaos look identical to Jem'Hadar

I found it incredible. Keep in mind your point was instantly refuted in the episode.

I held umbrage initially that this was even a topic on the Orville, but the way it was handled was Star Trek as fuck. It held it in its hands and played with the idea a little bit. Fuck me man, the show creates a scenario wherein the "redpilled" path is to actually have the sex change. Taking a convention and flipping it like that is pretty damn Star Trek if you ask me.

>look i posted it again
i get it, it's a joke, the show is pretty shit but right now it's the 5th best we've got

The weird thing is that for me, they look more like Jem'Hadar than the Jem'Hadar do.

they kinda ruined it by doing practical applications done by females of other species when they should've done it philosophically from the very beginning and not just pull it out like some kind of ace in the hole

>The shittiest it gets

ESL

May I should have said it differently, but besides making jokes, I mean that apparently in the future, everybody is at least an eceleb tier intellectual, if not a full blown philosopher. Usually, if they're right, they're at least a little left-wing. I don't really recall any exceptions to that one, unless you consider the right course of action to be killing the bad guy a right wing position. And everyone seems to have basically the same tastes in everything. From what I've seen of the two series, this seems to be more obvious in TNG than in TOS, by a mile.

How dare you insult the almighty

>the moral of the story

There was no moral where you were looking. You were looking at it as a gender vs gender choice thing. The moral was a cultural vs cultural thing. One culture needs to keep its nose out of another cultures business regardless of what goes on. That is what the moral was all about.

Could you refresh my memory on when my point on some species being poor comparisons for one another was refuted? I don't recall my stance ever even being hinted at.

>religion is good
good goyim, good! go to church good go- I mean boy

I wonder how many companies they approached for that or how many were bidding on it.

Well, I forgot who says it, but someone says while Alara may be stronger than the males of their species, the males of her species are still twice as strong as her.

Eh I can see where he's coming from. The shape of the head has similarities to the krill even with the sales and horns.

That's not exactly what I was thinking, but it's close. I just meant that it shouldn't even be a valid point in the first place. What sort of comparisons were in the first draft of the script, I wonder? Female Anglerfish? Black Widows?

Sure, I agree, some of the dialogue was like "isn't this common knowledge?" The thing with the most popular writer being a female was way too convenient, as well.

Still dug it overall; I liked seeing an episode of """Star Trek""" that didn't have any phasers firing, no space war shit, just some good ol' social analysis.

>Inequality Adjusted

...

I guess it's sort of like the one where the question if Data deserves rights. That was a good one.

Inequality adjusted HDI is a more accurate reflection of what quality of life is like for the average person. A handful of oil barons living like kings skews the results.

Shit, I gotta go watch that one again. Orville has made me dive back into some TNG. Just finished The Inner Light last night.

>Inequality Adjusted
>HDI
Oh am I laffin
>When criterion you judge a nation's well being on is tacitly judging how secular it is

In TOS they say they believe in God multiple times

I would say most people in UAE have a high standard of living. Inquality is not does not determine living standards. GDP per cap as flawed as it is, is still the best indicator of prosperity.

I really liked the first episodes of Orville. But I couldn't watch it past the scene where they meet the "atheists" on that dome ship. This anti religion stuff totally destroyed it for me. DS9 did the job a lot better without being retarded about it.

TNG and other Treks are known for its evenhandedness in dealing with moral dilemmas and other conflicts but less so with religion.
Relgion being used as a tool to subjugate and rule a people episodes
Religion stalls progress episode.
Religion leads to violence episode.
It culminates into science and reason trumping religion.

>the moral of the story

The moral of the story is that a sex change is bad.

>Inequality is not does not determine living standards.
The mere presence of good schools and hospitals doesn't mean much if most people can't access them. Inequality-adjusted HDI doesn't measure standard of living, it measures people's ability to access those services associated with standard of living.

>I would say most people in UAE have a high standard of living
The inequality adjusted HDI data for the UAE isn't there. I'm not disagreeing with you, but I can't dispute that claim for the purpose of this discussion.

So which of those dots are Muslim countries?

>the "redpilled" path is to actually have the sex change

ye, u can fuck off now

He's a mgtow
Girls are icky and bad

>necessary participation in industrialized moclan society
>when industrialized means everything is automated to some extent and physical labor is most likely non-existent
saying that women shouldn't exist because they wouldn't be able to handle society because of their weak strength is a moo point

Germany and Britain

>t. muslim

>t. Christcuck

>dude why don't they ever hold religion in a positive light
>religions never behead people!
Oh wait

This is a Christian website faggot, return to reddit

>Taking a convention and flipping it

Finally someone who got it. Libs who are in favor of female individuality rooted AGAINST the sex change, cuckservatives who are all for unity and conventions were put in the position to argue FOR a sex change. It was actually kind of clever, for McFarlane at least.

There are a grand total of maybe 20 christians on this website. The rest are just larpers who don't even pray and fap to trap porn every day but say they're christian to make themselves feel better.

Oh wow its impressive you have such intimate knowledge of anonymous posters

That's just what liberals think religion is, real religion teaches humility and compassion.

It's true though. When was the last time you prayed user? When was the last time you went to church?

Anything good done by religion can be done without the religion. Tons of evil done in religion's name and used to shield those who victimize others.

Being "over" religion is pretty consistent for Trek humans, combine that with Seth being an atheist and there you go.

>When was the last time you prayed user?
This morning when I woke up, same as I always do
>When was the last time you went to church?
Sunday

Not stop projecting your own degenerate life and shut up

Sweden is a majority Muslim country.

I don't know why the Krill religion is racist, historically religion has been anti-racist and welcomes people from all ethnic backgrounds.

When was the last time you talked to him about it?

Hertz>Avis

you mean when was the time he didn't talk about his views on religion?

>larping this hard

The moral of the story was revealed in Bortus' last line: "Our job now is to make sure our child has the best life possible."

Whatever you want to think dude

Both the Krill and the Jem'Hadar look like what many people describe Reptilians (or Draco) to look like.

Link me to an interview where Seth talks about his views on religion.

The Krill are just trying spread their religion of love and purity but the Union won't stop persecuting them. They even want to take Krillmas away!