>RELIGION AMIRITE I know I shouldn't be rolling my eyes since this is par for the course of something trek related but sheesh.
Does star trek ever have anything positive to say about religion? Even Sisko was tired of that bajoran shit and though they depended on their beliefs and prophecies which let the spoonheads rape and murder them to that extent.
The more religious a country is The shittiest it gets Just look at america
Landon Allen
That's not Star Trek, fool. Also, religion was never a problem in Star Trek. The problem was always the shit people/races would do in the name of their religion.
Luis Russell
Hmmmm....they don't include the names of muslim nations here. Really makes you think.
Zachary Ramirez
Yes, and?
Gavin Morris
oy vey that's [ideology]aphobic!
Justin Sullivan
South Korea is super religious though? way to twist facts
Adam Richardson
>o, religion was never a problem in Star Trek m8 religious people who were stuck in their beliefs were always portrayed as violent or ignorant. Hell there's an episode where Picard ahs to bring enlightenment to a bunch of savages of vulakan like people who were mired in their religion. The exception might have been voyager with its gay indian spirtual shit.
David Carter
South Korea is garbage.
Asher Long
>Also, religion was never a problem in Star Trek. The problem was always the shit people/races would do in the name of their religion. Uh maybe I'm a brainlet but that sounds like they had a problem with religion.
Jason Davis
Really ? Source
Ryan Rivera
kirk implied monotheism was still practiced on earth.
Aaron Ramirez
What do they mean by non religious though? In east Asian countries religion is so infused with the culture that most people would say they're not religious while actively practicing ancestor worship or engaging in Taoist inspired medical practices. There's also no consideration that maybe people turn to religion when they've lost everything else, which would imply the opposite causality than what you seem to be hinting at.
Gabriel Foster
>Even Sisko was tired of that bajoran shit
Sisko became more accepting of the Bajoran religion and his role in it as the series progressed.
Mason Lee
When Sisko was planning his wedding to Cassidy, she said her parents would want her to have a church wedding.
Matthew Roberts
> All those christcuck, kike and goat fucker upset at that scene.
Glorious.
Isaac Turner
its talking about people who take religion to extremes same could be said for political ideologies or philosophies and the dangers of doing so.
Hence orville is some woke as deep shit mah niggas
Parker Carter
Are you kidding? TNG literally had God pop up in multiple episodes and pretend to be a asshole while secretly helping and guiding humanity. Everybody loves him.
Christopher Fisher
>Hmmmm....they don't include the names of muslim nations here. Really makes you think. That would just make a worse case for religion
Jaxson Powell
also in the future, i think it is like the federation and there is no religion as seen in the last episode.
Sebastian Flores
seth is extreme in his belief that religion is bad, there's no way he meant anything else with this episode
Thomas Martin
>(((inequality)))
Jeremiah Myers
>seth is extreme in his belief that religion is bad, there's no way he meant anything else with this episode if you look at the episode or religion as black and white it explains why you lack the ability to discuss the topic.
Charles Rodriguez
Who gives a fuck. That would be like comparing performance supercars: Buggatis, Koenigseggs, Paganis, and Saleens, and then tossing Kias and Hyundais into the mix.
Eli Ward
>I've consumed that idea before, now I'm bored and want a new ideology to consume regardless of the logic of it
Isn't "woke" supposed to be an opinion that is rare, maybe even controversial? There is nothing controversial in saying "religion bad, science good". It's kind of a stale theme by now. Especially when the "technology" they compare to the stuff the religious people have is basically magic.
Joseph Hughes
I so want to rub her ear ridges across my glans.
Nolan Lee
this was picard not wanting a religion based around him
Nicholas Lopez
>Girls are inferior to boys >Islam is bad
Is Seth purposely trying to anger leftists?
Kevin Barnes
Any one who has taken econometrics knows that graphs like these are very easy muniplate.
Remember doing a project talking about the effect of video games on crime. After plugging everything in, I used only the data sets that made the regression more significant.
I'm not saying Stats are pointless, but their is a reason they are using the inequality adjusted HDI instead of GDP per cap.
>The middle East and small religious European countries would dominate it.
Samuel Rogers
>Islam is bad Thinking Islam is bad is a big no-no for the left. Christianity, on the other hand, is fair game.
Jose Flores
explain sweden
Asher Ward
probably that they adhere to a religion but aren't practicing it kinda like an agnostic
Alexander Miller
>>Girls are inferior to boys Yeah that's exactly what seth was going for durr
Mason Hernandez
>religious people who were stuck in their beliefs were always portrayed as violent or ignorant. Like those violent reactionary Vulcans. Or those Bajorans, who had a bucolic pastoral lifestyle protected by 5th dimensional love ayy lmaos (before the spoon heads showed up). Fuck even Kirk talks about Christianity, God, and Faith in TOS.
Evan Collins
That entire episode was so weird and stupid. Just because a female of one species is basically equal in ability to a male of another doesn't prove anything about the females of the latter species. Why not compare female silverback gorillas to European bodybuilders, then? Also, this isn't necessarily a bad thing, but the moral of the story felt really really muddied by ... well, everything.
David Peterson
Even though it's just as political as regular star trek, if not more, it's honestly refreshing to not have the captain lecture everyone including the audience once an episode. And to see that in the future, not everyone has such a stick up their ass.
Daniel Harris
The IHDI or the non-religiousness?
David Cooper
>On the Enterprise, I was considered to be quite amusing. >That must've been one dull ship. >That is a joke. I get it. It is not funny, but I get it. Star Trek has always had a sense of humor.
Christopher Allen
>anything extreme is bad XD Doesn't that make you like a Sith or something master Qui Gon?
Adam Harris
>the more religious a country is the shittier it gets >sweden is less religious than usa >has a worse hdi
Isaac Lee
>thailand >worse because them being religious >totally not because they're run by a dictator
Lincoln Russell
Is that The Orville? Those ayylmaos look identical to Jem'Hadar
Michael Ortiz
I found it incredible. Keep in mind your point was instantly refuted in the episode.
I held umbrage initially that this was even a topic on the Orville, but the way it was handled was Star Trek as fuck. It held it in its hands and played with the idea a little bit. Fuck me man, the show creates a scenario wherein the "redpilled" path is to actually have the sex change. Taking a convention and flipping it like that is pretty damn Star Trek if you ask me.
Parker Wright
>look i posted it again i get it, it's a joke, the show is pretty shit but right now it's the 5th best we've got
Dylan Scott
The weird thing is that for me, they look more like Jem'Hadar than the Jem'Hadar do.
Bentley Parker
they kinda ruined it by doing practical applications done by females of other species when they should've done it philosophically from the very beginning and not just pull it out like some kind of ace in the hole
William Hill
>The shittiest it gets
ESL
Aaron Smith
May I should have said it differently, but besides making jokes, I mean that apparently in the future, everybody is at least an eceleb tier intellectual, if not a full blown philosopher. Usually, if they're right, they're at least a little left-wing. I don't really recall any exceptions to that one, unless you consider the right course of action to be killing the bad guy a right wing position. And everyone seems to have basically the same tastes in everything. From what I've seen of the two series, this seems to be more obvious in TNG than in TOS, by a mile.
Nolan Morgan
How dare you insult the almighty
James Morgan
>the moral of the story
There was no moral where you were looking. You were looking at it as a gender vs gender choice thing. The moral was a cultural vs cultural thing. One culture needs to keep its nose out of another cultures business regardless of what goes on. That is what the moral was all about.
Jeremiah Ward
Could you refresh my memory on when my point on some species being poor comparisons for one another was refuted? I don't recall my stance ever even being hinted at.
Camden Campbell
>religion is good good goyim, good! go to church good go- I mean boy
Logan Young
I wonder how many companies they approached for that or how many were bidding on it.
Thomas Green
Well, I forgot who says it, but someone says while Alara may be stronger than the males of their species, the males of her species are still twice as strong as her.
Thomas Barnes
Eh I can see where he's coming from. The shape of the head has similarities to the krill even with the sales and horns.
Connor Morris
That's not exactly what I was thinking, but it's close. I just meant that it shouldn't even be a valid point in the first place. What sort of comparisons were in the first draft of the script, I wonder? Female Anglerfish? Black Widows?
Luis Morgan
Sure, I agree, some of the dialogue was like "isn't this common knowledge?" The thing with the most popular writer being a female was way too convenient, as well.
Still dug it overall; I liked seeing an episode of """Star Trek""" that didn't have any phasers firing, no space war shit, just some good ol' social analysis.
Christopher Ross
>Inequality Adjusted
Xavier Cox
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Charles Cox
I guess it's sort of like the one where the question if Data deserves rights. That was a good one.
Carter Wright
Inequality adjusted HDI is a more accurate reflection of what quality of life is like for the average person. A handful of oil barons living like kings skews the results.
Chase Butler
Shit, I gotta go watch that one again. Orville has made me dive back into some TNG. Just finished The Inner Light last night.
Angel Ross
>Inequality Adjusted >HDI Oh am I laffin >When criterion you judge a nation's well being on is tacitly judging how secular it is
Cameron Gonzalez
In TOS they say they believe in God multiple times
Mason Powell
I would say most people in UAE have a high standard of living. Inquality is not does not determine living standards. GDP per cap as flawed as it is, is still the best indicator of prosperity.
Sebastian Nguyen
I really liked the first episodes of Orville. But I couldn't watch it past the scene where they meet the "atheists" on that dome ship. This anti religion stuff totally destroyed it for me. DS9 did the job a lot better without being retarded about it.
Jonathan Wilson
TNG and other Treks are known for its evenhandedness in dealing with moral dilemmas and other conflicts but less so with religion. Relgion being used as a tool to subjugate and rule a people episodes Religion stalls progress episode. Religion leads to violence episode. It culminates into science and reason trumping religion.
Zachary Bennett
>the moral of the story
The moral of the story is that a sex change is bad.
Elijah Sanders
>Inequality is not does not determine living standards. The mere presence of good schools and hospitals doesn't mean much if most people can't access them. Inequality-adjusted HDI doesn't measure standard of living, it measures people's ability to access those services associated with standard of living.
>I would say most people in UAE have a high standard of living The inequality adjusted HDI data for the UAE isn't there. I'm not disagreeing with you, but I can't dispute that claim for the purpose of this discussion.
Dylan Butler
So which of those dots are Muslim countries?
Gabriel Reyes
>the "redpilled" path is to actually have the sex change
ye, u can fuck off now
Easton Fisher
He's a mgtow Girls are icky and bad
Easton Gutierrez
>necessary participation in industrialized moclan society >when industrialized means everything is automated to some extent and physical labor is most likely non-existent saying that women shouldn't exist because they wouldn't be able to handle society because of their weak strength is a moo point
Angel Jenkins
Germany and Britain
Leo Hill
>t. muslim
Ryan James
>t. Christcuck
Kayden Hernandez
>dude why don't they ever hold religion in a positive light >religions never behead people! Oh wait
Gabriel James
This is a Christian website faggot, return to reddit
Jace Foster
>Taking a convention and flipping it
Finally someone who got it. Libs who are in favor of female individuality rooted AGAINST the sex change, cuckservatives who are all for unity and conventions were put in the position to argue FOR a sex change. It was actually kind of clever, for McFarlane at least.
Luke Williams
There are a grand total of maybe 20 christians on this website. The rest are just larpers who don't even pray and fap to trap porn every day but say they're christian to make themselves feel better.
Lucas Stewart
Oh wow its impressive you have such intimate knowledge of anonymous posters
Jason Young
That's just what liberals think religion is, real religion teaches humility and compassion.
Jaxon Cox
It's true though. When was the last time you prayed user? When was the last time you went to church?
Matthew Watson
Anything good done by religion can be done without the religion. Tons of evil done in religion's name and used to shield those who victimize others.
Being "over" religion is pretty consistent for Trek humans, combine that with Seth being an atheist and there you go.
Luis Young
>When was the last time you prayed user? This morning when I woke up, same as I always do >When was the last time you went to church? Sunday
Not stop projecting your own degenerate life and shut up
Josiah Gomez
Sweden is a majority Muslim country.
Anthony Bailey
I don't know why the Krill religion is racist, historically religion has been anti-racist and welcomes people from all ethnic backgrounds.
Michael Lewis
When was the last time you talked to him about it?
Bentley Martin
Hertz>Avis
Owen King
you mean when was the time he didn't talk about his views on religion?
Ethan Morgan
>larping this hard
William Edwards
The moral of the story was revealed in Bortus' last line: "Our job now is to make sure our child has the best life possible."
Grayson Scott
Whatever you want to think dude
Gavin Howard
Both the Krill and the Jem'Hadar look like what many people describe Reptilians (or Draco) to look like.
Bentley Fisher
Link me to an interview where Seth talks about his views on religion.
Bentley Anderson
The Krill are just trying spread their religion of love and purity but the Union won't stop persecuting them. They even want to take Krillmas away!