Trained and conditioned from birth to be a killing machine for the first order

>trained and conditioned from birth to be a killing machine for the first order
>(supposedly) first battle he's in has a mental breakdown
>suddenly feels remorse and doesn't find it all ethical
Is the first order's training program that shit? :^)

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Who knows, some people just break apart when shit gets real.

In basic training there was a guy who looked tough with tattoos on his knuckles that spelled "Live" and "Hard", biggest bitch in the company. Took forever for him to repel off tower and he was crying when we lined up for gas chamber.

I'm not trying to sound racist or anything, but they HAD to choose an actor that looks like a sweaty gorillla for this role? Just saying.

>I'm not racist, it would be fine if he was a lightskin mulatto with white facial features
what the fuck

Sure but that's if you join the military at age 18 or whatever. First order troopers get trained from birth. There is zero chance they even learn what ethics are.

Perhaps considering a clone army wouldn't be such a bad idea.

Hell even a droid army would be better

>he was crying when we lined up for gas chamber.
what does that mean ?

Another point: Every first order officer speaks in a british accent. How come poe has an american accent with a slight tint of ebonics?

Tear gas or some shit probably

>Is the first order's training program that shit?

No. The Disney writers are that shit.

You'd be sweating balls too if you were in the desert with all that armor on

Another dumb plothole. That armor is supposed to keep him cool

Why the movies never explain why they got rid of clones or robot armies?

Droids were decommisioned so they wouldn't come back to haunt the empire later. Clones idk.

because disney is a cesspit of brain-dead writers who only know how to write for teengirl shows

yes, i mad. relentlessly mad.

and i hate disney. relentlessly.

Just shit writing, a few moments later he kills the people he grew up with and doesn't show any sympathy towards them.

Battlefront 2 explains it by saying that their gene programming was faulty after one of the regiments rebelled during Order 66. Only the 501st legion remained "pure" and they started recruiting normal humans.

This is all Legends now. Not sure if the newer novels address it.

>t.monkey

Well aside from star wars writing bein shit since phantom menace, clones were mainly used to be quick since they aged twice as fast making it easier to create a large army. But they're engineered to obey any order so i dont really get how brainwashed humans are better since we see finn defect

Droids? Who the fuck knows in any real situation droids would btfo any other infantry type

Are you sure you're not the racist? That was a wild claim.

No, he and that dead Stormtrooper at the beginning were gay lovers.
I literally expected that to be a genuine "twist" in the movie.
He and Poe then become a couple later.

I'm fully expecting this desu

They gave him a fugly chunky chink.

>That armor is supposed to keep him cool
Says who?

The extra material.

part of training involves putting on a gas mask when there's actual dangerous gas around you

>be the "space nazis meets KKK"
>give a chance to some black orphan for PR purposes
>spend years and hundreds of thousands of credits raising, training and equipping him
>he drops the ball at the first chance
And then you fags ask why the Empire is racist.

dont be aushwistic

no the writers just suck. i mean for fucks sake it would have been cool if say he felt the draw of the light side and that pushed him to overpower his programming or whatever but no he just good cause he is

>would have been cool if say he felt the draw of the light side
He's not even force sensitive.

I love how Star wars struggles with making the empire look bad.
They even have to say on twitter "please notice that the empire are white supremacist" even though they literally have black people.

nothing makes any sense. just accept it.

>has a mental breakdown about killing people he never met
>whoops and hollers like a chimp while killing his fellow soldiers that he grew up and trained with

Wasn't there some expanded universe bullshit where sidious' motive for creating the empire was to protect the galaxy against some force immune creatures.

This, and Rogue One really made the rebels look more like a ruthless terrorist organization, i for one enjoyed seeing that cit get ht by the Death Star

It's because he's Afro-American he would never do such a things as killing innocent people! He's been opressed all his life! Black people just don't do this.

Maybe they were bullying him all his life for being the only black trooper.

It's even worst when you see ep 2 and 3 : The empire was already here since palpatine has the full powers. But they make the army of the republic looking cool.
>suddenly the jedis want to mureder the president of the galaxy.
>the senate votes for the empire.
Why are they the bad guy again?
Also note that the palpatine speech was a copy paste of the bush speech, which is even more confusing.

>Also note that the palpatine speech was a copy paste of the bush speech
I don't remember bush declaring the creation of the first galactic empire

because you did not listen, baboon

Replace "patriot act" with "first galactic empire" and you have the exact same speech.
And this is confusing (even more for the american audience), because Bush speech wasn't that evil.

He's the only negro in the whole army how did that happen

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what a bitch

Gas chamber was the funnest part off my boot camp experience.

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Meme character. Literally. An ex-stormtrooper could've been great, but we get this obnoxious fag instead? I blame JJ fagbrams

"OHH YEA IN YOUR FACE PHASMA, WHOS IN CHARGE NOW?!"

"WHAT ARE YOU DOING? WHY DO YOU KEEP MOVING YOUR HEAD LIKE THAT?! IM TRYING TO MAKE A PLAN HERE!"

"MAYBE WE CAN JUST USE THE FORCE?"

he's a nigga so it's ok to have problems with following authority's orders

yeah but having an moral ambiguous villain that brings the question "how far can you go for the greater good" for both audience and protagonists alike would be too hard to comprehend for your average Star Wars fan

Why didn't the Empire just build a billion of this guy?

He isn't even that strong. The "ball" guys from the prequels were the "strong as fuck" ones. Guess they are really expensive or something.

>ball" guys
what

boot campers are ptuo in dc gas chambers and come out threyt are our miltry and servew ous and protects ujs and he livre or us gh live for thefm

he probably means the Droideka

>yfw the Empire is more diverse than the rebels

Trooper armor has built in heating and cooling systems, along with a huge array of sensors and HUD display inside the helmet that cna last for days out in the field.

Unless the battery runs dry he should be nice and cool.

Special armor variants like the snow troopers or desert troopers have more specialized things build into them like better heating/insulation for snow trooper armor and betting cooling systems for desert armor.

Basic stormtrooper armor is the gernal jack of all trades armor that can do a little of everything. Its also supposed to be bullet proof, and be able to take small blaster fire without injuring the wearer.

These guys.

Maybe, I'm too lazy to google it.

>remorselessly guns down the people who were his brothers just yesterday and who he knows have been brainwashed to act evil
The new characters are such shit

This is why I couldn't care less of any of these characters on the nu-wars movies: The absolute lack of character development by ease writer is killing the new trilogy...

Sorry, a 10 seconds fuzzy acid trip flashback doesn't make make give a shit about Rey...

I think they covered that. Cones might be better but both need training and kidnapping is a lot cheaper

>muh high tech armor
>get reck by furry midgets with short-bows and wooden arrows
Now what, nerd.

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explain this then.
Checkmate Empirelets

I love how 2 of these dude btfo 2 jedis.

He was actually the most likable and best acted character in the entire movie.

>Mary Sue was wooden
>Ford was decent but didn't have much to work with
>pilotbro was good but minor role
>implying other characters
Sanitation engineer who ends up as infantry and spends the entire movie trying to to get killed while being scared out of his mind. He also shanks a nigga.

*trying to NOT get killed

Didn't they all get raped by ip man with his stick

>we could have had an entire movie about a dude that was born and raised to be a trooper, but hates it and runs away in his first big fight, and the consequences of that when the empire puts him on their hit list and he joins the rebels because its the only place to go thats safe

>but finds the rebels are no better than the empire, as he struggles with the fact thats hes gunning down innocent men also raised from birth to be troopers like he was, who are just following orders

>meanwhile "negro" and "mary sue" merchandise keep pilling
I hope Disney write them out of the second movie.

The guy cleaned the bathrooms before taking the field. The villain took note of him, so the force might be strong in him Never seen action before and might have the force to the point he "feels" them all die.

I thought Finn was supposed to be the most likeable character in the film, with the most development?
Seriously who are these people? They crawl out of the woodworks almost every TFA thread and regurgitate these two opinions.

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Another silly thing is that when they escape in the tie-fighter in TFA they do not wear helmets or mask. Even though the Tie-fighter does not have any onboard oxygen because it's constructed to just fight based around a Star Destroyer, meaning you in most cases can make do with the oxygen in the pilot's equipment.

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They have a lady as a squad leader. What did you expect?
Why are they even considered a nazi allegory of they recruit niggers and promote women?

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>millions of soldiers never questioned anything
>one did
omg training failed

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He really was
I didn't mid him at all, his character was just wasn't written that well, but none of them were. And judging from the prequels, we won't get a buddy buddy relationship between him and Po

>gets PTSD from seeing civvies being shot
>is perfectly okay with, hell enjoys killing his brothers in arms who he grew up with and essentially were his family
???????????

They're apparently special forces TIEs, they look exactly the same but have atmos, hyperdrive and a tail gun.

>suddenly feels remorse and doesn't find it all ethical
>suddenly ok to kill the storm-troopers he grew up with though

;_;

oh alright

t.b.h judging from the comics he was very much the school shooter type, getting bullied by his peers for being an incompetent idiot

Neoliberal globalism is the inevitable, natural future of humanity.

Traditions/races/culture/''identity'' are all superficial, emotional, tribal that have nothing to do with the individual, and the /MATERIAL/ conditions for the individual are all that matters.

Fuck the ''borderless'' aspect though.

>superintelligent ai exists
>humans beings still command battleships, aim guns, and fly around in single-man fighters like it's WW2

better to not ask

The one single good thing about Marxism is the eradication of culture.

the idea of the first order is shit

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This is how I would describe Finn's character.

>Is the first order's training program that shit? :^)

Well, no.

The first thing he does once he leaves the First Order is to slaughter dozens of people without remorse. These are the same people he grew up with, and the only people he's known since he was a child.

He's a wide guy

>i have never read Marx

dude he crash landed on a desert planet and lost his helmet in the process. You'd think the battery woulda run out.

Have you never watched the original Star Wars trilogy? Stormtrooper training was always shit. Why do you think their aim is always so fucking terrible?

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>Why do you think their aim is always so fucking terrible?
only when they're up against plotarmour

Aw, corrected by the sagely furfag

>Hell even a droid army would be better
this, in fact I don't know why they didn't just go back to a droid army as without any Jedi around it seems like they'd probably be much more efficient than human soldiers or clones
>roger roger