>Want to create show based off of childhood memories with her brother >Make pilot >It gets picked up but now they have to make concessions with the art >Show becomes popular on the internet >fan base starts to get big >decide out of goodwill to hire fan artists from tumblr to work on your show >Hire someone who repeated the tenth grade twice but her art is decent enough so it doesn't matter >Show starts to get shifted around and then barely aired >fanbase starts to get angry because not every episode is "muh lore" >Eventually the fanbase tries to get a girl to kill herself and you have to do damage control >they dig up your semi-erotic fan art to spite you >Retard who you let on tries to change the nature of your characters you developed to make her ship canon >Episodes of show end up airing online a month before they hit TV and everyone posts spoilers everywhere
She brought it on herself when she made a show that appeals to the worst kinds of people and then allowed those people to influence the show.
Luke Martin
She's autistic. Cartoons is all she knows
Daniel Parker
>>they dig up your semi-erotic fan art to spite you
I dont think that she gives a fuck about it.
Samuel Nguyen
Yeah, but at the same time she could have gotten a huge backlash that may have fucked her career.
Jack Rogers
They didn't even have to "dig up" anything, those pictures were already circulating around Sup Forums well before SU was even a thing. In fact she drew a lot of them for Sup Forums explicitly, she used to drawfag around here.
Jackson Butler
>she used to drawfag around here.
Sauce? I'm pretty sure you're thinking about Natasha Alegri
Nathaniel Stewart
Natasha did too, but Rebecca was much earlier. She wasn't nearly as prolific as Natasha was, but those EEnE pics were made for Sup Forums. I don't think there's documentation from back then that can prove it (all the archives that date back that far are dead), but I remember it pretty clearly and it gets brought up every now and then.
Nicholas Scott
>tfw people still doubt Rebecca's Sup Forumsmrade status
Easton Edwards
>they dig up your semi-erotic fan art to spite you >semi
Lmao ok
Elijah Myers
nat did drawfag quite a bit but sugar drawfagged under the name of scraps, she then proceeded to give out her tripcode to friends and they began trolling the community on her behalf
Josiah Myers
I'm pretty sure Becky doesn't care. She's an internet weirdo.
Cooper James
She'd even sneak into the old flockdraws back when they got posted on Sup Forums, around the time SU started to get big. You can see a few of her drawings here. For all we know she might still be lurking.
Noah Campbell
Wow
Robert Thomas
I know, she should just quit.
Gavin Evans
The crew have interacted with /sug/ on twitter many a time.
There is a not-insignificant chance that one of the crewmembers is reading this very post.
Benjamin Lee
This OP was trying really hard to make the situation look worse than it is
Isaiah Watson
You realize the guy who helped design Ariel got hired by Disney because of his ability to draw sexy women? Same thing with Chris Sanders, who did Lilo and Stitch?
As long as you aren't a degenerate who defines yourself by your diaperfag art, you're fine. Hell, you could be a degenerate and still get work. Bleedman did but was asked on the condition he stopped drawing loli porn and he said no thanks. Fucking Zone got a freelance gig doing a couple of animated shots for OK KO.
And most of the early Disney animators are known to have draw lewd Snow White during production. It really isn't as big of a career-breaking as you think, especially since people have wised up and know what the hell slash art is thanks to over-exposure on the internet. At this point, I think everyone in the industry has drawn at least one porn picture and posted it online.
Samuel Reed
And we know about Chris Savino and his little, ahem, webcomic.
Landon Russell
>Bleedman did but was asked on the condition he stopped drawing loli porn and he said no thanks This either implies he makes more drawing underage porn than he would in a steady Disney job, or he loves drawing underage porn too much to leave it behind even for the sake of a job.
Either is pretty horrifying.
Carter Sanders
Bleedman sure does love his little girls.
Chase Morris
>Episodes of show end up airing online a month before they hit TV and everyone posts spoilers everywhere
desu it just shows how well liked her show is, sucrose doesn't seem like the type that would be angry over that. I think the only thing she legit wouldnt want is having her ideas restricted.
Wyatt Phillips
That's not a she. Unless Sugar is a transsexual, then I didn't know.
Oliver Bell
>Retard who you let on tries to change the nature of your characters you developed to make her ship canon Explain this one to me
Julian Cruz
>Either is pretty horrifying. Not really. He seems pretty successful independently and hits the market that likes what he likes, so he's actually more golden than your usual Disney storyboard artist who has to work to the bone on whatever project they're assigned and probably gets more than 50% of their work scrapped by the final product.
It's like when those feminists suggested to DC/Marvel to just hire some name-dropped popular indie women artists to write for them and when some of them found out, they said they fuck no they wouldn't want to work for them anyway because that would be a downgrade from their current status.
Successful indie > Disney employee that isn't a director. And even then, the director status can end up not meaning much, considering Chris Sanders got fired despite making a hit film.
Logan Morgan
Ugly women exist.
I'm pretty sure if Sucrose didn't like what Zuke was doing, she'd step in.
Ryan Walker
>Not really He's making bank on drawing kids having sex. No matter how you spin it, that and the implications thereof are frightening.
Kevin Mitchell
Hi Matt. What happened with Zuke anyway?
Lincoln Reyes
Does this mean she's not an SJW?
Joseph Torres
Matt would never come here. He's almost as left-wing as Zuke.
Liam Green
Better than real children. If actual pedos could channel their urges in requesting commissions, we'd be a lot better off.
Justin Hernandez
He once posted screencap of Sup Forums minutes after the thread it came from was made on his twitter before, even if he doesn't come here now he certainly did before.
Isaac Wright
That time he came and the OP was "Fuck Matt Burnett" was pretty fun.
Joshua Peterson
>He's making bank on drawing kids having sex Why are americans such prudes? Kids experiment with each other all the time. That's how you build confidence to have sex without being blackout drunk as an adult.
Bentley Scott
She isn't. Thank whatever media covers animation for constantly the headlines "REBECCA SUGAR IS FIRST FEMALE CREATOR AT CARTOONNETWORK", "REBECCA SUGAR OPENS UP AS A BISEXUAL WOMAN", "REBECCA TALKS ABOUT HOW PROUD SHE IS THAT THE LGBT COMMUNITY LOVES STEVEN UNIVERSE", "REBECCA SUGAR OFFERS INTERESTING INSIGHT TO HOW STEVONNIE MAY BE CN'S FIRST TRANSEXUAL CHARACTER".
Literally most of this bullshit is people asking her, "Is Stevonnie a girl or boy" and her saying, "Stevonnie looks and sounds like a girl for simplicity's sake, but if people find comfort in being able to identify her with whatever gender, more power to them" and people spinning that off into clickbait headlines because SJWs clamour for any "positive" news to push their agenda. Sugar often gives very neutral or even straightforward answers, it's everyone else who fucks them up in a shit game of phone.
Wyatt Sanders
Drawn pedophelia is just a stepping stone to the real stuff. It legitimizes it in the heads of these people.
Charles Carter
I hate Bleedman with a passion that rivals the firey inferno of our glorious sun, but even I know he did the right thing there.
>make enough cash drawing loli garbage to support yourself while doing what you love
over
>make more money, but forever have your creative freedom choked out by the stifling yoke of your Disney Overlords
Remember, these are the people who won't allow official Slave Leia merchandise to be produced any more.
Michael Cooper
nobody deserves su fanbase
Matthew Sullivan
Yeah and video games lead to violence, furries want to fuck actual animals, and watching R-Rated movies will soil the minds of children.
Faggot.
Juan Wilson
>this thread >the SU crew may very well have seen my rants about how shit the show is >they would scroll past it with a scoff like it didn't matter but not help but read the general gist >without acknowledging it they'd feel just a little bit sad because even if it's 'just a hater' it still hurts every time Why am I hard right now?
Gabriel Allen
Why cartoonist does not learn to do no feed their fanbase?
It always ends bad
Christian Long
She's not even the first female creator
Austin Jones
Webcomic? Where?
But don't you see that not railing against SJWs every single moment of your waking day makes you an SJW?
Dylan Cooper
youtube.com/watch?v=uTjwCib6sdY This is edited but it still conveys the general tone of a lot of interviews with her. It's hilarious.
Ian Harris
Its fictional, its not real my dude
Ryder Evans
You're SURE that's not a guy, right?
Grayson Lee
You said this was edited but holy shit, 30 seconds in and I still thought it was legit. A surprised white male interviewer saying, "Wow, women! Doesn't happen often!" is just not far off from reality.
It's basically how Amid gets people to pay attention to CartoonBrew now-a-days.
Joshua Perez
...
Ian Thomas
Whenever I see Savino's art, I wish they added a marker texture overlay on top of the Loud House characters to try and emulate that aesthetic even more. I mean, they do a nice job with the backgrounds and stuff, but the characters just feel way less impactful than his art.
Luis Ortiz
Listen to some of the interview from the description. It's a bit less blatant, but he seriously railroads her into that kind of conversation.
Isaac Peterson
Nah man, lol, she is full on SJW.
Jeremiah Turner
Seriously what the fuck is wrong with this guy. If someone like him can get in the industry then my life is assured
Aiden Peterson
>they dig up your semi-erotic fan art to spite you But I love Sugar's EEnE yaoi
Kevin Hill
Helps being a veteran who's been in the business since the early 90s.
Ayden Wood
>Helps being a veteran who's been in the business since the early 90s. I've been drawing since 2000. This year is my year
Cooper Rivera
There's a lot of interviews by animation-centric outlets who talk to female artists and slip in the question, "What's it like to be a woman working in ___?" or "How do you feel about the industry being mostly male-dominated" and everytime it's, "It's great, I don't notice anything different and have never had stigmas against me" and try again and again to get a juicy answer to work with.
Seems like that's the case for most of the women but every now and then there's one who has a bad experience and that seems to define the industry as a whole. I think back to the Sabrina Cotugno who complained about the industry feeling very male dominant and hard to push ideas as a woman and badmouthing instructors at CalArts who had to defend themselves because she was just a few sentences away from calling them sexist. Despite this, Sabrina still got an internship at Disney sometime during or right out of college and has been a consistent storyboard artist with them on their TV department.
Even Dana Terrace who got lucky enough to get a storyboard job right after graduating and then promoted to Director despite her only industry experience being one storyboarding job finds a way to complain about the way "women are treated" in the industry.
I just have no idea how people who are successful continue to act like victims on an imaginary someone's behalf. Of course you'll run into a few assholes in your life, that's a fucking granted, you can't act like it's going to be sunshine and daises the entire way through. But people can't act like Nickelodeon rejecting a show because they're not interested in a girl-centric show right now is a plot to throw down women, it's them knowing their market. There's that entire Green Lantern Series comic talking about how those focus groups end up being true textbook of boys like action, girls like romance.
Levi Sanchez
>2017 >people are still surprised all cartoonists occasionally draw smut when did Sup Forums turn into a club for soccer moms?
Kayden Edwards
Sup Forums is the mediocre loser child in the family raised by soccer moms.
Xavier Fisher
Wrong.
She confirmed during a Twitter AMA session that some of the crew did the doodles, but that she was not part of it.
Jordan Walker
>Not recognising Sugar's art style She lied to the normies you pleb, it's extremely distinctive
Angel Carter
It's faux moral outrage that people use because people should stop liking what they don't like. On the internet, no one cares if you draw porn, but if the right talking head frowns and makes a news story out of it, there's a lot of fame to be grabbed and outrage to be turned in to money.
Landon Perez
Nah, go watch her film, Staples, and compare it.
They are close (seeing as her team learned her style), but no cigar.
Lincoln Rivera
>Want to create show based off of childhood memories with her brother >It's about lesbian space rocks
Alexander Diaz
Steven is the brother
Connor Stewart
>she
Alexander Perry
>has
Adrian Davis
>her face Why does she put up with it?
Nicholas Long
Oh boo hoo, she gets to live her dream of directing an incredibly popular cartoon series where she has huge amounts of creative control.
Cooper Wood
>no
Elijah Cooper
no
Blake Cooper
Either way, I'd destroy her
Blake Brown
It is distinctive, and it's not there user.
Josiah Carter
Not all cartoonists draw smut. But you've still got a point. It shouldn't matter.
Bentley Cook
>>Retard who you let on tries to change the nature of your characters you developed to make her ship canon
Tell me more about this
Jaxson Edwards
They are referring to Lauren Zuke who ships Lapidot.
Kevin Morales
It's called Sup Forumsmblr and you would mind to remember it.
Nathan Roberts
It's the same in comics. To the point that now the comics press practically ignores anything that isn't outrage or trying to make a point about "current issues". Even a lot of women in the field are tired of the fact that the comics press refuses to criticize women for anything and keeps asking them what it's like to be in such a male-dominated field.
Also Cotugno boarded some of the worst GF episodes and made more of fuss over LGBT representation than trying to smooth over even the most basic of plot elements. Some of her ideas actually got into the show. Particularly with The Love God.
Jack Gonzalez
what nature did she change for the characters?
Alexander Ross
She was raised by lesbian space rocks? No wonder she ended up like this.
Ryder Barnes
It's more of a meme then fact honestly. But Lapis and Peridot do get along really well in episodes boarded by Zuke.
Austin Cruz
Can't wait for Shadmans New Disney Series.
Juan Garcia
Basically, Zuke is obsessed with Peridot and Lapis. She often made them behave in annoying ways and she basically forced them together despite their complete lack of development (Lapis went from hating Peridot to being her BFF very quickly). She quit the show and there's reason to believe Sugar shooting down her precious ship is part of the reason why.
Pic related, posts from Zuke's "private" blog.
Caleb Foster
Doesn't really show anything about Lapidot, just a remarkably depressing and boring woman.
Joseph Robinson
>Lack of development I hate this meme. They literally lived together for untold amount of weeks while shit happened with Steven. And 1 Storyboarder does not make an entire episode and dynamic.
Noah Rivera
There are multiple posts about Lapidot there, what are you talking about? The top 2 posts are about it.
Hunter Young
I dunno, these faggots can't handle anything anymore.
I've head from tumblr crowds that intermarriage is a form of cultural appropriation. They're literally horseshoeing back around to using segregation for 'progressive' means.
Daniel Mitchell
Development happening off-screen does not a good story make. Why do you think Maui's off-screen reformation was trash?
Joseph Sanders
Not developing a relation onscreen is lack of development and terrible writing. Zuke is the only one who's shoving them together in a shippy way, so she's partially to blame for them going from 0 to 100 so quickly.
Oliver Gomez
I have been away from Sup Forums for too long and I just can not fucking tell, but is he trolling or just retarded?
Julian Barnes
Cartoon Network is kill at this point. The 2 cartoons that helped bring it back after CN Live fiasco haven't been good for years, and are ending, leaving the channel with shit (TTGO, PPGO) and mediocrity, as well as destroyed scheduling and poor leadership
Cooper Hall
Reminds me of that one image where some SJW is sperging out about (Image, was it?) needing to hire more women, and someone working there popped up and pointed that they always had a pretty large female staff. Then she tried to backpedal and make all sorts of crazy claims like "but they were never credited!" only to be BTFO every time.
Alexander Ross
At least they backed down from nuPPG after it failed to generate good ratings and there was so much negative publicity. TTGO is still kind of a problem, but they're not spamming it nearly as much as they used to and at least that somewhat makes sense given its ratings.
Ayden Wilson
>those focus groups end up being true textbook of boys like action, girls like romance. They reflect society which still teaches that to kid. It's changing slowly but it was worst a few decades ago when they were barely any women being doctors, computer geeks or warriors in movies.
Camden Wood
>semi-erotic fan art You mean full on pedoporn.
Andrew Moore
Because she gives zero fucks and is bathed in love whenever she visits a con. She makes the show she lives the way she wants to promote her art form and develop herself. She has a pretty sweet deal.
Joshua Taylor
>He's making bank on drawing people killing each other. >No matter how you spin it, that and the implications thereof are frightening.
That could be said of a lot of artist. I'm always surprise at how fictional murder is ok (and even fun) but fictional sex crime is horrible.
Jacob Hall
I snorted a weed once and now I'm addicted to bath salts and crack cocaine
Dylan Stewart
Tumblr is full of porn though...
Jaxson Torres
With a published book about a pug astronaut whose every second word is faggot. Nothing can embarras her.
Nathaniel Peterson
I say this plainly, TTG at its worst is still better than NuPPG at its best.