In what appears to be the new and popular trend to bash the DCEU, a new rumor has hit the web stating that Wonder Woman and Justice League are both absolute disasters.
On a recent episode of the Schmoes Know podcast, a contributor named Sasha (who apparently had access to All Inside DC) recently talked about Wonder Woman and mentioned what she heard from a DC source. She also made it clear that she and the source were huge DC fans:
“I’m very disappointed in what I saw, and it seems like all the problems are the same problems. It’s discombobulated, it doesn’t have narrative flow. It’s just very disjointed.”
Isaac Jenkins
WB is finished. They should sell the rights back to Marvel.
Ryan Harris
When it comes to Batman and the Justice League, there was a rumor that The Batman was going to be delayed, and Batman-On-Film apparently has heard that Justice League is a mess:
“Perhaps Affleck knows that JUSTICE LEAGUE is going to suck (I’m hearing it’s a mess — I hope it’s not!) and is ready to bail on the DCEU before he gets GIGLY’ed (again) by it.”
I’m a pretty big Marvel fan, but you never really hear reports about the MCU coming out like this. It seems that people are being incredibly hard on The DCEU and basically just presuming it’s not any good before even watching it. I’ll admit that I didn’t watch BvS in the theater but when I watched it after it had been released to Home Video formats, I was waiting for the movie to be awful and it never happened.
While we’ll have to wait for both films to be released before making a rational opinion, it’d be great if fans would just give something a chance before condemning it entirely.
Also – even if you didn’t like Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice, did it really deserve Razzie nominations? I mean, is it as bad as recent Adam Sandler films? Come on now.
Luke Jackson
>new and popular trend to bash the DCEU >new what is this 2014?
Isaiah Cook
While this is most likely just the usual rumor being blown out of proportion, I honestly wouldnt be surprised if this ended up true. WB doesnt know what its doing or what it wants to be
Luke Williams
>Also – even if you didn’t like Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice, did it really deserve Razzie nominations?
yes your appeal to emotion will make me change my opinion of the film, good work.
James Butler
Meanwhile, Ben Affleck's new movie was a major bomb, which may turn him into box office poison.
Evan Morales
People just love shitting on DC movies now. It's become such a meme that the Razzies are infected by it.
David Carter
of course they don't they haven't made anything good in a fucking decade and this year hopefully will be the year this piece of shit company finally dies
I mean LOOK AT THIS SHIT
Angel Martin
Do we really need daily threads about the same rumor?
Eli Johnson
I honestly think the biggest problem facing WB is the editing. Like, the stuff looks really sloppy when playing. So many critics are pointing at the wrong thing because people have gotten so used to these terrible editing jobs. I tried watching some of a Transformers film on TV recently, and it is atrociously edited.
Editing is a lost art.
Hunter James
Least put people off letting him direct.
Wyatt Nelson
It wasted 3 hours of my time so yeah, it does. Also Adam Sandler knows hes shit, what he makes is for his circle of friends/a paycheck. BvS however was made by people thinking it was high art
Caleb Ramirez
STOP LETTING ZACK SNYDER DIRECT MOVIES
Thomas Nelson
Is anyone surprised?
Adam Wright
>In what appears to be the new and popular trend to bash the DCEU This.
Tell me about the scourge, Boco.
Andrew Russell
Its poor editing mixed with shit scripts.
James Phillips
>>> > Boco !sCZ24qY6KY 01/16/17(Mon)20:26:14 No.89181014 ▶ >Meanwhile, Ben Affleck's new movie was a major bomb, which may turn him into box office poison.
I don't understand why people are suddenly shitting on Affleck so much. Looking at the reviews of the Accountant it was like people were projecting their BvS butthurt into just hating Affleck on principle.
Camden Adams
>but you never really hear reports about the MCU coming out like this.
Because the MCU usually doesn't drop the ball this hard.
Adam Wilson
They hated the Accountant for implying that autistic people are potential sociopaths killers.
Levi Hernandez
>discombobulated Does that word even exist? And if it does, since when company warriors use it?
>Because the MCU knows who to bribe Fixed.
Isaac King
Affleck was never their favorite actor.
Gavin Morales
The Razzies cast a really wide net this year, all categories have a lot of inductees, it's just there filling rank.
Aaron Wright
Scourge?
Joseph Gomez
DCEU only dropped the ball with SS, which was terrible.
Elijah Green
>implying that autistic people are potential sociopaths killers But it's true.
Nicholas Smith
any excuse to shit on DC and WB
should've picked the winning side then
Easton Edwards
Nah I think its more he's just not as good a director in the long run as Hollywood wants.
Hollywood wants another Director/Leader like Spielberg was for the 80s and 90s.
But everyone they've tapped for that mantle has ended up being a flash in the pan and burning out.
Logan Sullivan
Yes, the scourge. Sup Forums told me that I should ask you.
David Hall
Just ONCE I wish we could not drag the MCU into every DCEU argument.
Nicholas Reyes
Kek
William Evans
>Because the MCU usually doesn't drop the ball this hard.
AoU
William Morales
It had action, jokes and likable actors being cheeky.
Jack Evans
In other news, Marvel Infinity War is going to be the best movie evar! Go and watch in imax! Go and watch it again and again, until it make gazillions in the box office
Cooper Sanders
>Because the MCU knows who to bribe Right, Marvel bribes the American and foreign public, which is why their movies keep selling enough tickets to pull in a billion dollars.
Austin Morales
but I thought the whole point was that his own dad made him become a violent killer so that he wouldn't be bullied.
John Johnson
>usually
And "Age of Ultron" is still a more competently made movie than BvS or SS.
Elijah Foster
It's sad how both Lego Movies are the only things looking even remotely appealing out of this whole list.
Thomas Cox
>every year Marvel media will get more and more angry at the DCEU >every year it will continue to make more and more money ensuring its continued existence Keep it coming famualites
Samuel Ross
I'm so fresh you can suck my nuts.
Nathaniel Turner
>$1.5 billion >dropping the ball
Samuel Flores
Its the exact same quality as the first Avengers, its just the novelty of seeing them assembled has worn off. That said, even the MCU's worst films are passable, not great, but enough to keep most happy.
Anthony Ortiz
>Because the MCU usually doesn't drop the ball this hard.
As long as you ignore turds like Thor 2, Age of Quiptron....
Ian Phillips
Because to be flat honest, he's not that good.
Only way he'll get an Best Actor Academy Award is torturing himself like DiCaprio
Colton Rivera
>I've been hearing these things, been hearing them all around the country, all around the world, and you wouldn't believe what I've heard, I hear it all the time, every second, every minute, every hour, every day, and it is so true, it's so true and it's been said by a lot of people, really smart people, the smartest people you could ever meet, and believe me when I say this, they're all saying the same thing and it is just so amazing when you're told this, it really opens your eyes because of how amazingly accurate it is, so incredibly true, and all of the top experts in the world all agree on it, they all tell me the same thing:
>DCEU is a big, BIG fat mess, just a train wreck, and believe me it's SO true
Oliver Perez
how can you not bring up the best when talking about the worst?
Caleb Ross
It doesn't matter. It had an autistic spas killing people with his super autistic awareness.
Josiah Gutierrez
It's like you don't know what the word "usually" means.
>age of quiptron If you have to resort to changing the name of a movie in order to criticize it, maybe you're meming just a little too hard.
Ryan Morales
No, Marvel bribes the critics, and people who believe what they say (amazing, I know) go to watch the movies.
John James
As well as GotG CW2 The THor movies The Hulk movies Ant-Man Doctor Strange
Gabriel Cooper
It's funny that one of the problem with Age of Ultron was all the deleted scenes messing up the flow of the film. I'd say AoU is the closest to a DC film on that front.
Dominic Turner
>every year it will continue to make more and more money ensuring its continued existence Age of Ultron made less than Avengers 1. Civil War made even less, and that was essentially Avengers 3.
We're approaching capeshit fatigue, senpaitachi. Soon all that will be left is Star Wars and then soon after, nothing at all.
Justin Ward
I have no idea what that is.
Aiden Lopez
First I thought the film was he was a studious accountant and that part of his "accounting" was he had to kill people to "balance books".
Then that Autism stuff was brought in...yea.
Hunter Bailey
Can Multiversity save DCU?
Hudson Flores
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Cameron Kelly
There weren't that many deleted scenes that were valuable. It was mostly Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch stuff that was missed.
Colton Reed
>Age of Ultron made less than Avengers 1. THE AVENGERS is the golden ceiling for superhero movies. Only INFINITY WAR stands a real chance of reaching or surpassing it.
>Civil War made even less, and that was essentially Avengers 3.
Not from a marketing standpoint.
Nicholas Cooper
I keep hearing this too. And it's a problem. It's a big problem. What we, what we're going to do is take a good look at the Snyder. We're going to be looking at a lot of different things. A lot of Tumblr are saying that and a lot of critics are saying that bad movies are happening out there. We're going to be looking at shilling and a lot of different things.
Charles Taylor
Because some autist always brings it up to deflect criticism/change the subject whenever we talk about what went fucking wrong with the DCEU as if its immune to be criticized on its own
Cooper Barnes
>they haven't made anything good in a fucking decade
What is: Inception Pacific Rim Her Edge of Tomorrow Mad Max Fury Road Man from UNCLE The Nice Guys
And that's just at the top of my head.
Camden Richardson
>turds >massively successful and loved by everyone enjoy your "kino" Sup Forums
Juan Stewart
That's right, the only potential autistic people have are to be shitposters on Sup Forums.
Adam Fisher
>critics drives people to theaters Tell that to Michael Bay
I get it, you like DC better. But stop acting like the general public doesn't simply like Marvel better right now.
Luke Jackson
So is there any new information? Or is this pretty much the same thread as the other day, and this bait is becoming a general.
Christopher Nguyen
Inception was trash. I'm okay with the rest of your list though.
Andrew Reyes
trash and flops
Brayden Edwards
>We're approaching capeshit fatigue, senpaitachi AoU still made over a billion dollars. So did Civil War. Doctor Strange is over $650million.
There is no super hero fatigue. Stop this meme.
Alexander Wright
>Pacific Rim
Which they sabotaged in distribution so it wouldn't mess with Man of Steel.
James Cook
>THE AVENGERS is the golden ceiling for superhero movies. Aside from how wrong this statement is, what's with the caps lock, bud?
>Not from a marketing standpoint. A movie that repeatedly showed trailers and promos featuring ALL of the Avengers isn't considered an Avengers movie to you? Sit your ass down.
Jose Peterson
>Doctor Strange is over $650million.
Sad.
Benjamin Smith
Capeshit fatigue is a meme you should give up on.
Christopher Cruz
You do realize the entire industry is failing regardless of how much money these flicks are making, yes?
>Doctor Strange is over $650million. WHOOOOOAAAAAAA AMAZING. What happened in that movie again?
Nathaniel Campbell
Reminder that Jurassic Park, a franchise that was totally dead for 14 years, came back and outgrossed all superhero media out of nowhere >JW2 in development with Bayona >Kong >PR2 >My boy Godzilla The age of creaturekino is upon us. Feige and Snyder better watch out
Samuel Garcia
Like talking about Star Wars and Ghostbusters even though that doesn't make a lot of sense. Marvel I can at least understand because it's the main competition.
Oliver Powell
It was marketed as an Captain America sequel and a Iron Man Vs. Captain America film, you ass gobbler.
Ayden Bennett
Post unique Evans
Jonathan Kelly
just because DC is shit and dying doesn't mean "capeshit fatigue" is real
Thomas Barnes
you first
Ayden Adams
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Easton Rogers
There was a ton of shit that messed with the flow of the film, such as Wanda and Pietro meeting Ultron felt strange, how fast the Africa fight scene happens after the Tower attack, Thor in the pool area, Thor appearing underground before the Sokovia attack, the editing was pretty bad. It needed more transitions and establishing shots because characters were teleporting around, like how Cap was in the lab and then immediately on the high way.
Matthew Torres
>Batman vs Superman: 872million >Doctor Strange: 650million
You're right, Doctor Strange is the sad one here.
Julian Howard
Please keep being in denial. You're as amusing as Hillary shills were.
Asher Scott
Can anyone explain to me how a person can look at the list of Zack Snyder's films and not anticipate that his future films will be disasters?
Isaac Butler
>Anons try and push the Dr Strange/Ant Man was forgettable meme Do people really suffer this hard from short term memory loss? I mean its fine if you dont like them, totally valid, but it sounds weird that people would forget some of those scenes
Logan Murphy
I honestly think that the DCEU will be facing harsher criticisms independent if future movies turn good, and here i'm talking if they do massive fanservice that will leave Sup Forums happy, and do money, all because it is already seen as a toxic cinematic universe in an era where everyone hates Trump.
Everyone will see problematic things about these movies independent of their quality or box office success.
Eli Clark
>In what appears to be the new and popular trend to bash the DCEU It's also the trend of the DCEU to make bad movies.
Lucas Bell
I kinda feel like concocting some mene magic and tank a Marvel movie with this type of rumors.
Blake Clark
>DC dying even though both movies in 2016 outgrossed MoS Can't wait for JL and WW to continue the trend while being controversial enough to piss you zombies off again
Isaac Baker
>You do realize the entire industry is failing regardless So you're shifting the goalposts to something completely different than superhero fatigue?
Nicholas Ross
Yeah man, a movie with an iconic character like that with all of Disney's engines losing to some no-names with zero marketing? I don't think Marvel could recover even with ten successful movies.
Cooper Hill
how about this one
Jonathan Jackson
I call this bullshit. I fiercely criticized BvS but now it seems that whatever DC does is already doomed to failure.
I do not know about Flash, Wonder Woman however, seems to be a good movie.
Daniel Rivera
Good luck, you'll need it. Kek is not yet powerful enough to battle the Maus.
Julian Bailey
Who is he pointing at? The sambo is blocking my view.
Thomas Hernandez
Ant-man was a generic heist movie hindered by forced synergy, trying too hard at places humor and clumsy script. It was what made me stop going to see MCU in the theaters, it's just boring comedy shit now with some action sequences.
Robert Morris
You're not serious, right?
Ok, good ... you're not serious. Because I refuse to believe anyone is this retarded.
Gabriel Kelly
But then some WB exec would have to admit that was a mistake, and they'd rather lose money than do that.
Carter Kelly
they already blew any good will from the Dark Knight
honestly I'm surprised people haven't started calling that overrated and not as good as they thought it was when it first came out