>Production officially resumed after the end of the strike, with regularly airing episodes recommencing on February 17, 2008. According to MacFarlane, in 2009, it costs about $2 million to make an episode of Family Guy. >According to Masamune Sakaki, a CG creator in the anime industry, an average 13-episode anime season costs around 250 million yen (or $2 million).
What the fuck? You could make an entire season of anime with a cartoon episode of money.
It takes 2 million dollars at average to make pic related
I don't think tv is going be to different if your show is super big
In Japan unless your really high up, you practically paid peanuts.
Ryan Bailey
>anime isn't popular >The anime market for the United States was worth approximately $2.74 billion in 2009.[91]
Why pretend to be stupid on the Internet, user?
Ethan Morgan
2.74 Billion isn't a lot in American standards, especially in television. Thats of TRILLIONS of dollars m8. Accept it. Anime isnt popular. Anime is shit.
Robert Gonzalez
Nice bandwagon you got there
Hudson Lopez
the 2007 writers strike
James Scott
>goes to Sup Forums >makes anime vs western animation thread >told the truth about anime >"b-bandwagon" OP or not, did you not expect this to happen?
Grayson Rodriguez
>Netflix revenue in 2015: $6.78B >anime market revenue in 2015: $18.1B
>anime isn't popular
I'm not gonna bother responding anymore because now I know for sure you're a mouthbreather, but yeah, check your facts before spewing shit, retard
David Taylor
>whole anme market >one of dozens of tv services
Netflix doesnt have toys, posters, and games.
Alexander Wilson
>Trillions of dollars
The entire information industry in US didn't even break a trillion in terms of GDP in 2015.
It's definitely a lot bigger than anime, but a trillion is a shitton of money.
Aaron Bailey
Disney on its own is worth 150 billion. American television is also worth more in howw they control and distribute information, making them worth much more than their stock value suggests. Come back to me when anime can topple world governments.
John Ward
Are you fucking retarded? Anime is more popular than ever. Just look at the site you're posting on.
Christian Reed
Reminder that One Punch Man was made with less money than the utter shit that is family guy
Charles Powell
Nice samefagging, retard, you got debunked, the truth is right below your mouth-breathing comment
Hunter Cox
In yet they are capable of producing shows with better animation with half the budget.
Something is wrong about this picture.
Isaac Sanders
Oh, you're being retarded on purpose
Ian Cook
Truth is anime is shit
Dominic Harris
Did you know that the website you're posting on was originally intended for anime discussion?
James Cook
Atleast i got (you)s
Gabriel Fisher
>this anally ravaged he got btfo stop im gonna bust a gut
Charles Gray
>Something is wrong about this picture.
Yeah, it's called underpaid Japs.
Jaxson Brown
First of all where did you get the $150 billion figure for disney?
And anyways that's assets. I was talking GDP, as in measurement of goods/services produced in the year.
And again I'm not saying American media isn't fucking huge, I know it is. Anime is tiny comparatively. I'm just saying a trillion dollars is really fucking huge.
Ryder Jenkins
money is going to the voice actors not the animators
Charles Green
Anime is still shit
Dominic Hughes
Not him but that isn't a great defense. Sup Forums is shit
Joshua Walker
You guys gotta factor in the Voice Actors, here. Family guy has some decently expensive people voicing regular characters.
Mila Kunis is voicing Meg, for instance, and while she's never exactly been A-list she has jumped up a couple ranks since the show started.
Ian Cruz
>Sup Forums is now anime OK
Isaac Rivera
the entire anime market is less than what the top 3 movies of 2016 made.
Xavier Garcia
IP licensing, if Family Guy wanted to use Looney Tunes characters they had to pay Warner Bros for the characters, same for other companies with their IPs. 2600 yen a hour is not cheap. Even with the studios that only pay $900 a month it's still not slave labor. Which is why you make your own music. Not all studios are like this. You do know that Your Name was one of those movies, right?
Nathaniel Jackson
>IP licensing Surely that has to be last ditch, they law favours parody. All the money is going to VAs (Seth), then the showrunner (also Seth), then the writers, then the American production crew who hires the Corean inbetweeners to get shows out on time and under cost.
Charles King
This is why Cartoons are superior to Anime kids. The Mountains of monies being shelled out for professionalism.
Bentley Edwards
She also wasn't the voice of Meg when the show started, but I'm being pedantic.
David Reyes
Nope, IP licensing costs money and hence they pay a arm and a leg to pay off companies like Warner Bros and Disney to use their IPs.
The crew's pay checks are a fraction of what The Simpsons' VAs cost, unless they get someone like James Woods or someone like that.
Jordan Young
...
Owen Campbell
It's been 10 years since that event happened
>tfw
Isaac Edwards
>You do know that Your Name was one of those movies, right?
people in the anime industry also regularly complain about the terrible treatment animators, voice actors, and writers are given, making pennies on the dollar.
Carter Brown
Because working in Japan means adhering to schedule's like this: Schedule 6:00~9:00: Sleep 9:00~13:00: Work 13:00~14:00: Lunch 14:00~23:00: Work 23:00~24:00: Dinner/Bath 24:00~30:00: Work To make half-a-living. And that's fucking Kishimoto of the Naruto cashcow. Additionally, according to Sup Forums itself, western animation is more fluid in an "Everything should be moving if it can" sort of way. Think of all those scenes in anime where people just stand across from each other and talk, nothing else really moving but lipflaps that barely match what they're saying. It's called limited animation for a reason.
James Richardson
>You do know that Your Name was one of those movies, right?
Maybe in Asia, big fucking shocker. By global totals? No way son
Landon Young
/discussion
Angel Long
>2 million dollars at average to make pic related That animation is pretty good.
Grayson Reed
user, that was seven years ago. nobody denies that it was super popular at a certain point. but now, not so much
Jason Powell
You know you're shitting yourself if pic related looks like it cost 2 millions.
Hell, old shits like Popeye looks miles better than that.
Justin Moore
>Anime >Better animation kek
Michael King
>modern cartoon >good animation
Let's not go there
Anthony Perez
Yes, but it turns out the site grew and now has many non-anime sections.
Luke Watson
Seth's salary post-strike is $25 million per season and he takes in 30% of the merchandising profits. That's where your costs all are.
Pre-cancellation Family Guy was made for $25k an episode.
Jacob Cook
Due to union rules, staff and crew get a pay raise for each new season. That's how these shows end up so expensive.
Nathan Butler
>not SRAVE RABOR R A V E
R A B O R
1 job
Wyatt Roberts
prove it nerd.
Christopher Miller
>tfw Conan was the funniest he's ever been during that strike None of his writers should have had jobs when they came back.
Angel Jenkins
I feel like the suits could exploit that by making ludicrously long seasons.
Carter Green
99% of that money is going to the voice actors.
That's basically how it works in anime as well, the actual animators get peanuts compared to big name VA's, and I imagine family guy's cast are probably as bitchy with their salary as the big bang theory cast.
Parker Miller
> it costs about $2 million to make an episode of Family Guy.
Dominic Kelly
Nope, IP licensing, see
Charles White
>shallow and pedantic ftfy
Leo Reyes
won't that just fall on fair use because of its parodic nature? Where exactly are you getting your source?
Giving yourself a (You) doesn't make you right.
Alexander Torres
Nope, they had to pay Warner Bros to use Wile E. Coyote and Fred Flintstone.
