Is the whole point of the show that feminist mothers raise serial killers?
Academics will say the wave of serial killings following the 70s was because of media sentimentalization and copy-catting. But, assuming at least half of this show is true, it would seem the wave of feminism brought on by the sexual revolution of the early 70s is the real culprit. It seems those years created a generation of promiscuous, feminist mothers that raised self-hating, socially inept killers.
Now I'm convinced it's happening again, right now. We are on the cusp of a new generation of killers. I can't find anything on the topic and it seems no shows, movies or documentaries cover this angle. What does Sup Forums think?
that's right. that's the point of the show. good analysis
Easton Clark
single mothers should be ostracized like 100 years ago
Jayden Williams
More like abusive mothers raise serial killers. Feminism=/= locking your kid in a basement.
Dylan Jones
The lack of a male role model for boys does cause this kind of disconnect with society, they don't learn the correct ways to resolve confrontation and being only around women makes them timid, men can't really afford that so it results in cowardly behaviour and bottling up of emotions resulting in this sort of murderous behaviour.
Bentley Turner
Oh contrare, we're already heavily medicating boys for being boys, OP is right, we're heading towards another wave of serial killers.
Bentley Foster
People are born with sociopathic tendencies.
Eli Richardson
Children are often punished by being isolated to a corner or told to go to their room, that has nothing to do with it. Kemper was very clear about his mother's negative feelings towards men, and how she hated him because he reminded her of his father
Carson Watson
They can also be created.
Christian Baker
What about children raised by single fathers?
Nathaniel Perez
Wow, you should write out your paper, and turn the psychiatric world on it's head.
Christian Cox
yeah feminists should stick to being dykes at universities I think is the point
Josiah Robinson
For example:
Ted Bundy - most likely born with it Jeffrey Dahmer - created
Austin Perry
Maybe we should team up and become trail blazers in the psychology world.
Nicholas Evans
>it's a brainlet user watches a show with his preconceived notions in mind and tailors his analysis of the show to fit these notions without looking at the entire picture episode
Xavier Ramirez
Basically this. Its why the black and to a lesser extent Mexican communities are such shit holes. The dads bang some whore, she shits out a kid and then the dad splits, if he was even there to begin with. Or maybe its just white racism even though it doesn't seem to effect other minorities.
Leo Price
Exactly, the black young then seek out kinship with anybody who will offer it (gangs) thus we have much gang violence in the heavily black areas of America.
David Morgan
I was: -beaten by my mother and humiliated -sexually abused by my father -crossdressed as a child(my mom would do make up on me and force me to wear panties) -used to bite children at school to the point of them bleeding -took whip to school and attacked people -never had any friends or gf -trouble socializing -kept to my myself -no sex until 25 and then only with hooker -since then slept with probably 100 prostitutes -practicised self-harm with knives -violent fantasies about harming others
But yet I am not a serial killer, I just understand that it would result in jail and having to endure even more shit from humans.Why would I do that when I can -fulfill my violence fetish playing video games -fulfill my crossdressing and sexual power play fantasies with ladyboy escorts
I thin most of serial killers in the past came from self-repression. These days guys like Kemper just would fuck trans escorts from backpage and play God of War while Brudos would shitpost on crossdressing forum. Back in the past they didn't have these kind of venues to let off their fantasies and had to repress it in them untill it blew out.
Alexander Hall
>feminist mothers This is tumblr-tier reaching. Watch the fucking show again, fucktard.
Lincoln Jones
no thoughts on this? curious for a friend
Christopher Ramirez
Name one serial killer raised by a single father as opposed to a serial killer raised by a single mother.
>Is the whole point of the show that feminist mothers raise serial killers? Thats literally the exact opposite message the show provides.
Jayden Murphy
What you just described doesn't make you a serial killer, your life seems to be the result of being a massive faggot
Aiden Brown
>OH CONTRARE
HAHAHHAHAHAHA
Jeremiah Cooper
>We are on the cusp of a new generation of killers.
naw just more nu-males and NEETs
Tyler Sanders
>strong anglo name >6'7.5" >wrote letters directly to prosecutors to help them out, they still couldn't catch him >enjoyed hunting from an early age >from a town called "chilliwack" >took revenge on his "long time girlfriend" (the eternal roastie) as his final victim before handing himself in >never killed in his own country, carried out his murders in the bordering states
Truly the Chad serial killer.
Jacob Foster
>Academics will say the wave of serial killings following the 70s was because of media sentimentalization and copy-catting well that's a load of bullshit nice sources by the way
Anthony Peterson
Okay that's one.
Product of single mothers:
John Wayne Gacy Harold Shipman Mary Bell Adam Lanza Daniel Camargo Barbosa (Stepmother, but single none-the-less) Andrei Chikatilo Gary Ridgway (Father away working, abusive mother)
Shall I go on?
If I had the time I could find more. Would you like me to provide further examples?
Cooper Ward
Hey, I remember you from previous mind hunter threads. I meet the best people on here.
Ayden Collins
>What are mass shooters
Kevin Watson
I was just asking if children raised by single fathers can produce the same results. I don't know what's up your ass.
Xavier Powell
>Hey, I remember you from previous mind hunter threads. I meet the best people on here. You will pleased to know that this was my first post in a mind hunter thread.
Benjamin Moore
I'm socially retarded and want to blame feminists for my shortcomings.
yikes, and to think i was about to watch this, lmao even worse
Tyler Gomez
Okay so I got one of them wrong
Lincoln Hall
I'm not all the way through yet but it does look like every killer was made by a shitty mother. I used to be quite into serial killers and a lot of them did have terrible mothers. More than a couple of them were dressed as girls too, so that's gonna be fun in a few years.
Oliver Wright
Fair enough. I was just curious about the data because it does seem very lopsided.
Cameron Peterson
People were hitchhiking too much back then
>get into car with complete stranger in the middle of nowhere >a stranger who is twice your size and can kill you and cut off your head >be surprised when he does exactly that
Camden Bennett
What the FUCK is the problem with the annoying co-worker dyke
Levi Thompson
Yeah, but they become powerful businessmen and test pilots. For one to bash teen girls heads in with a rock ten fuck the cold body, you're gonna need some overbearing mothering.
Jason Torres
she didn't have a son to abuse
Connor Gray
the women are the worst part of the show
James Rodriguez
Dexter.
Jaxson Robinson
If you look at the majority of those people I posted here: You will see the majority were in fact raised by single mothers.
The issue here is not the woman, its the lack of a solid family infrastructure (mom and dad) - I put no blame on the women other than their original choice to breed with assholes.
Adam Collins
>the women are the worst part of the show And the world
Carter Cruz
>naw just more nu-males and NEETs Like the mommy's boys and basement dwellers that kill hookers?
William Long
you know how hard you had to work to orgasm back then? now it's as routine as brushing your teeth
Luis Hall
seriously
>comes out of nowhere with an interest in their research, does literally nothing to aid the research besides sperging out over muh set questions >"lol i don't want to be their BOSS" >just rats them out instead because she's triggered by eight ripe cunts why keep her there, what does she fucking do
Jordan Brown
the only thing stopping new serial killers is that they're too lazy to clean up the mess afterwards
Joshua Hernandez
I'm not a neet but had abusive father, drunkard and violent.
Raised by a single person I a job but work from home, I'm basically NEET if that means faggot loser still living with mommy at mid 20's.
0 friends, bar some online friends. 0 GFs, extreme anxiety socialising.
Would never murder anyone though, that would be a step too far, I don't even like killing insects anymore.
So if a lack of a father produces cowards, I could probably guarantee that from personal experience.
Carter Roberts
In Ed’s case though, he was already killing animals before age 10.
Caleb Flores
women watch these shows so they make a character that they can hang their hat on, like anything else on tv. it's just demographics
Jaxson Flores
>Like the mommy's boys and basement dwellers that kill hookers? They were repressed back then. Kemper's of this world shitpost on Sup Forums,fap to traps, and are too lazy to learn to drive.
David Gray
I love you
Samuel Sullivan
Gonna disagree with you on Dahmer. He had an odd fascination with dead animals and preserving skeletons at a young age just like most other serial killers.
John Perry
Yeah but that is beside the point, he still had no father figure at that time.
It's in males instincts to kill (hunter gatherer stuff) and a father would be able t oexplain to him properly to not do it in that sence, but he obviously hid it from his mother because women don't understand that instinct to hunt / kill.
I also understand she breast fed him into his teens.
Asher Lewis
> don't even like killing insects I think this is the important part. Serial killers from childhood starting killing animals. Even if I have fucked up psyche like them, killing animals never was something I was interested in.
Anthony Wilson
>>What are mass shooters not serial killers, that's what they are
Luis Lopez
>I also understand she breast fed him into his teens. I slept with my mom and dad till I was 12.
Juan Morales
>he isn't /fatalistwithacause/ serial killing is outdated 70's shite, mass public slaughter is the new thing
Connor Edwards
He killed a cat and put its head on a stake when he was like seven. I’m going to go ahead and call that a red flag.
Aiden Ward
He was a homosexual male growing up in an broken household (his parents fought quite violently all the time). He repressed his sexual urges, had no safe household, would wander around alone outside, no friends, became alcoholic to deal with it.
There's a couple of really good documentaries on him on YouTube, I would recommend for sure. They're not even sympathetic but they do give you an inside to his isolation.
Lincoln Martin
Breast feeding isn't the same as sleeping in the same bed my friend, breast feeding goes quite a bit further. Like you shouldn't be in a position where you're weaning your teenage son off your breast milk.
Connor Scott
His upbringing did him no favors but I also think he had ingrained tendencies toward what he ended up doing from birth.
Nicholas Fisher
i used to torture and kill animals up to the age of 12 but i grew out of it. would never kill anyone, you need more than just kinda stuff to be a serial killer. you need a transformative childhood/early adulthood experience that ties the death fantasies with your sexual drive and usually heavy physical/emotional abuse from the people you grew up with.
i just turned into a socially awkward loser like most of us.
Jaxon Campbell
Fair observation, I'm just playing devils advocate at the moment, I'm actually enjoying the discussion about serial killers more than the topic of this thread.
They're somewhat of a morbid curiosity of mine.
I can't find any evidence to back that up, got any links? Ed only killed a couple of people, he mostly stole from graves and carved up corpses as he somehow got someone at a morgue to let him cut up fresh arrivals.
Colton Collins
Fincher has always been crypto redpill >durden «a generation of men raised by single mothers» >gone girl, absolute MRA movie but feminists couldn’t say shit because the book was written by a woman >mindhunter, anti-male ideology creates serial killers, holden gets a SJW gf, she ends up being a narcissitic slut, he stays with her, being a nice guy, and She breaks up with him
Elijah Gray
what sort of animals
Austin Price
Someone with Kemper's intelligence could go for biochemistry and biology and cook up a virus that would wipe out a significant percentage of human population if he would put his mind to it and wasn't obsessed with sex.
Jackson Anderson
The main guy in this was so obviously gay
Lucas Anderson
I started to develop a sexual interest in breast when I was about 10. Imagine still suckling on your mom's breasts with those thoughts on your mind.
Hunter Scott
I was just going to post a response to this behavior. When you look at the childhoods of most serial killers you see some commonalities emerge. I’d generally think it’s pretty normal for most kids to kill insects or maybe a snake, but serial killers tend to skip straight to killing small mammals. It’s also important to note that they start keeping trophies early on.
Hunter Adams
cats, geese, ducks, insects, birds, frogs
whatever i could catch outside basically. dogs were usually too large. used to set fires and wet the bed late too lel...
other than that i was pretty normal and popular until high school where i retreated socially
Aiden Perez
Oh sorry, misunderstanding. I’m talking about Ed Kemper, not Gein.
Leo King
I used to kill insects in disgusting ways but also grew out of it.
> Twist heads off of daddy long legs > pull off their legs let them fly away and lol > pull off their wings and convert them to spiders > throw shit / rocks / conkers at ducks > rest a coin on a moth and watch it die > shoot wasps (yellow jackets for USA peeps) with BB gun
Never killed animals though. Unless you're vegan and consider me complicit in murder for eating meat.
Robert Lopez
>dicks >geese >cats you're a f a g g o t mate
Gabriel Bennett
I did most of this, never messed with ducks though because I liked Ducktales
Noah Brooks
hey man i grew out of it and realize it was super fucked up pls no bully
Jace Brown
I was a late bloomer in that regard, but that would seriously fuck up a person if he developed sexual thoughts at that age and was sucking down girl juice.
Ah crossed wires, not a problem, it happens. I'd agree with you in that case then, apparently he even kept pieces of it until his mother found them. Lol that guy was screwed from birth.
Jaxson Davis
>shoot wasps with bb gun doing god’s work desu senpai
Luis Flores
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Evan Rivera
i wish he could figure out how to be more blunt with it, the only people who will understand are those smart enough to already know these things
the media praises his films for the opposite of what they really mean, it frustrates me to no end
Dylan Hall
Oh we also used to catch small fish and cave them in with rocks, not sure why I did shit like this. Now adays I'd feel fucking terrible about it.
Probably the frontal lobe development or something.
Jayden Davis
it's to show how fragile a male ego is,that a man will literally kill because mommy doesn't believe that his dick gives him rights
Kayden Robinson
>tfw raised by a single mother I'm convinced based on personal experience that it fucks you up in a primordial level, specially if you are a man. Growing without a male role model leads to failures and crazy fucked up people
Adam Baker
Why did Holden abort the final meeting with Kemper? Did he quickly assume that Kemper was lying to him the whole time and just wanted to kill him? If he had enough with every aspect of his life, to the point where he ended his relationship with one sentence, ruined his career in one interview, what was he thinking in the final scene when Kemper hugged him?
Asher Gutierrez
honestly the girlfriend was worse.
Adrian Cruz
Sounds like more anti-male propaganda, if this isn't bait.
If the director is trying to convey that message they obviously have no clue about how these things come to pass. Has nothing to do with male 'fragility'.
Joseph Turner
I don’t think Kemper had any interest in harming him, assuming the writers were trying to be true to life. Serial killers very, very rarely deviate from their victim types.
Colton Ross
he went to kemper for validation which is the absolute worst thing you can do when dealing with a high intelligence sociopath
the hug was just kemper manipulation and intimidation, holden lost his shit but he made the right move in getting out of there asap. kemper likely would not kill him but you don't want to become emotionally dependent on someone like kemper.
Evan Phillips
No you jackass, he had a panick attack because he realized he was a psychopath like kemper.
Elijah Johnson
Why did he keep that shitty gf?
She didnt give a shit about him.
Colton Carter
I wouldn't feel bad, the thing is you were young and just fucking around because you didn't know any better. A lot of boys do this type of thing, myself included, and just grow out of it. I think it's just curiosity and experimentation with a pretty new thing that you are becoming aware of, life and its end.
Elijah Cook
the character was awful and the actress playing her was even worse
Kayden Campbell
Insecure male with little experience, probably wouldn't be able to tell someone was using him or mistreating him. Ask any teenager that had a manipulative partner older than them.
Caleb Morris
i was raised by my mother and 3 older sisters i am a suicidal porn addicted neet who self harms, i've never had a friend
Jack Sullivan
Plus he also had a younger brother who as far as I know did not turn out to be a psychopath. One of Dahmer's biggest issues was his alcoholism when he was a teenager.
Jace Ward
Sure, I thought the same. But then again, Kemper did seem to kill because his victims alienated him, ignored his cries to be recognised and to have a social life. Girls didn't have any interest in him, his mother hated him, and he said even his cats ignored him. Then Holden, who Kemper thought he developed a connection to, ignored all his invitations and his cards, he didn't even think attempting suicide would get him to visit. For an "organised" killer, Kemper definitely had some sort of reason to resent Holden.