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He's right. That's why we're all here.

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Fake

no, it's true. I have zero respect for myself.

God, I've never been more happy that I don't respect myself.

Respect, self or otherwise, died the day the Internet was born.

Sounds about right yeah.

Am i supposed to be mad?

>Self-respecting
>Adult

I have no horse in this race.

>watch superhero movies
Gotta agree, they're pretty cringe and are usually just circlejerking cock orgies for actors and producers alike.

The joke's on you! I haven't bought comics in years!

What "thing" is he referring to?

What pains me is that the writer seems to be implying that all comics are capeshit.

A self-respecting adult wouldn't be on that site, so I don't really care.

What should a self-respecting adult be doing in his/her free time, anyway?

For those who want a tl'dr of this, this paragraph basically sums it all up.

>My parents deserve some of the blame for this. Dad was not a fan of comic books. His view was that the second you hit puberty, you put them behind you and started reading John Updike – and you damn well stuck at it until you liked it. And you know what? He was right. The travails of Rabbit Angstrom are better than any comic.

As long as they aren't hurting anyone, who cares what other people do with their time and money?

I remember this.

Talking about football, hunting, and fixing some shit.

no self respecting adult would take life advice from a buzzfeed knockoff article

That really did save me time and more importantly, deprives this sadsack of more ad-click-bux. Thanks.

They probably shouldn't watch sports, fantasy/science fiction or adventure films, musicals, animation, comedies, or westerns either since those are also things children have enjoyed at some part in our nation's history.

Sounds boring.

They must be a Sup Forumsmrade.

Drink, listen to old music, pretend to be good with women, watch sports but, get bored and talk bad about people during the game, drink more, repeat.

The shit taste of the father is to be laid upon the children.

>John Updike

WHEW! Thank god I stopped respecting myself years ago.

Shut up, Updike.

>Read good literature children
>Like John Updike

I just kind of feel sorry for this guy. Obviously his father had to remove the stick from his ass somehow, and the only way he could do that was by transplating all his tastebuds there.

>self respecting

Breaking news. Another pretentious fucktard who is bitter that people like superheroes.

No self-respecting adult should tell other people what they should and shouldn't like

Making money so he can bang the most expensive women.

But football is soooo boring. Especially since it just boils down either the Patriots, Broncos, Packers, Steelers, or 49ers going up against some poor shlub team that manages to weasel their way in.

Reading John Updike apparently.

Ask Quentin.

>self respect
>it's actually just some judgemental fuck refusing to respect you
yaw.

>don't like it
>stick with it until you like it

I'm all for trying every thing at least once, or 'giving something a chance', but this guy seems to think like reading something you have no interest in (and does not serve a purpose, like a job or schooling) is being an adult.

Isn't being an adult about pursuing your own interests?


also

>self respecting
>implying

and Sup Forums do it again.

Don't you know
Sup Forums is dumb, dumb, dumb
They give (You) to anything that triggers (beginners!)

Who cares about self-respect were al going to die anyways

>26 march 2016
>The article is about how BvS looks terrible.
But he's not wrong...

wew

>Self respecting adult
I've seen some self respecting adults do some asinine and childish shit. Forgive me if the word "Adult" doesn't mean anything like it used to, if there ever was any meaning to it in the first place.

I'm fairly mature, understand that my actions have consequences and aim to make myself a better person as well as make the world a better place for my children to live in once I'm gone.

Is that not enough, or do I have to be a boring person and follow the leader when it comes to adult entertainment too?

>John Updike
How about I read Jack London, he's a much better writer.

>people enjoying things I don't like
what an edgy faggot

Oh five fuck's sake. We're being baited, very, very hard. This is the article.

>Another month, another superhero movie staggers to the silver screen, lurching under the weight of its own self-importance, groaning with the expectations of fans, and burdened with a nine-figure marketing budget. I am, of course, talking about Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice, to give it its full, clunkingly portentous title.

>Can we all please grow up? Can we acknowledge that Marvel and DC have scraped right though the bottom of the barrel? Can we call time on superhero films? Films which are too dark for kids the comics were originally written for, yet too dumb for any thinking adult.

>Way back in 1989, I quite liked the first modern Batman film – and yet now I curse it. When it was released, it was genuinely interesting and different. A superhero film with highbrow-ish director, a dark feel and adult themes. It was a huge success and I don’t begrudge it that. The trouble is it spawned the superhero-filled-multiplex-hell we currently live in.

>So now, a quarter of a century later, having strip-mined the comic world down to the bedrock, we have the inevitable franchise crossovers. I’m sure the thinking that went into Bruce Wayne and Clarke Kent’s upcoming get-together was every bit as deep as “These are two really successful brands we’ve been milking for years and the audience is starting to notice that they’re a bit long in the tooth ... and, hey, it worked for Alien vs Predator”.

>Of course most of the superhero films aren’t actually crap in the way that The Last Airbender or Gigli were crap. Many of them are nicely shot and use A-list actors. They often have talented directors. They even get decent reviews (although the same cannot be said for Batman V Superman). And yet, an hour after watching the latest iteration of Superman/Batman/Iron Man/The Flash/The Green Lantern, I can barely remember anything about it.

I've re-read books a few times that I didn't get, and wanted to get, and then I did after a few reads.

but that was more because I wanted to understand it, not force myself to like it. hell I know at least two of those books were fucking masturbatory crap at this point. but you know, at the time I wanted to get it.

improving your reading skills is all well and good, but this opinion is shit anyway, my dad is one of the most hyper-masculine guys around, and yeah he hates cartoons as "childish crap" but he made me read comics, he collected comics, and got me into all kinds of obscure nerd culture shit when I was a kid. also he's collected toys since the 60s.

you aren't some nerdy wimp shit because you have interests. I mean, what purpose is there in building cars as a hobby? sure people see it as masculine, but it's a fandom like any other when you get into it, same goes for pro-sports, or even 'movie-buff" type guys.

Are they even intended for kids currently? I thought parents were turned off by all the violence and sex. I mean if this stuff actually is for kids, then great, but then why can't we also get that content in our cartoons?

>thinking man
Why should I listen to a cuck?

>The trouble is the source material. In the case of Batman and Superman, this was originally written for ten-year-old boys. A man who can fly with lasers in his eyes. A man who dresses as a bat dispensing justice to bad guys. It’s fun but it’s fundamentally very silly stuff; it has pre-teen built into its DNA.

>I know that the stock response to this is that there’s no reason you can’t use superheroes to examine dark, adult themes. No there is isn’t, but just because you can doesn’t mean you should.

>Let’s use a food analogy. It’s like making hamburger out of Wagu beef mixed with foie gras and then serving it in a toasted brioche bun and topping it with artisan cheddar, oak-cured bacon and hand-brined pickles. Sure, the end result will be good but it will be kind of “stupid-good,” the ultimate expression of something quite dumb. A cassoulet made with far cheaper ingredients would be a better, more sophisticated and more satisfying dish by almost any yardstick.

>In the 80s and 90s, people used to worry about “dumbing down”, where complex ideas in spheres like politics and literature were simplified in order to make them accessible to people who were unwilling or unable to deal with sophisticated thought (tellingly, the term originated in the film industry). These days, I’m more worried about dumbing up, where you take something that’s pretty stupid to begin with and then throw money and talent at it until it has a semblance of intelligence and sophistication.

>Does this really matter? The answer is that it doesn’t if your dumbed-up burger is just another dish on the menu. But it does matter if your local French and Italian joints have been shut down and replaced by an entire street of huge dumbed-up burger restaurants. It matters if you live in a town where the only dish on the menu is dumbed-up burgers. Now, ask yourself how many superhero films your local cinema is currently playing.

He is completely right

>this year I'm leaving USA
>won't have time for comics or cartoons
>will be a self-respecting adult

>Of course, I know there’s a business case for it. I understand that big franchise films come with built in branding. I get that, if you went to see Iron Man, you may well go and see Iron Man 2 all the way through to Iron Man 47. I know these films do well in increasingly important markets like China because they're easy to dub (a total lack of nuance helps). I recognise that big explosions and stunning, yet somehow entirely predictable, CGI are a kind of lingua franca for cinema audiences the world over who don’t want to think very hard.

>In a way though, the cynical business case is the least of my gripes. Far more troubling is the widespread notion that somehow these films have something important to say. The thing is, like our dumbed up hamburger, they are limited, even crippled, by their form. God knows how many articles I’ve read saying, “Actually, Batman v Superman and Captain America: Civil War are about fascism and America’s love of authoritarianism.”

>Well, maybe they are. But I can think of dozens of better ways to examine the slow erosion of democratic institutions than two guys in tights prattling on about the kind of hero America needs.

>The obvious way is just better films. Films like Sicario and A Most Wanted Man which manage to say something interesting and thoughtful about the world in which which we live without recourse to bang-you-over-the-head expository dialogue set to music that tells you exactly how to feel – and all for a tenth of the budget.

>I’d also include South Park in this. Its 2015 skewering of Caitlyn Jenner was a thousand times more insightful than anything I’ve ever seen in a comic based film.

>I know that suggesting that comic characters might be stupid upsets plenty of people. Well, sod it, in for a penny, in for a pound ... I used to read 2000AD as a kid and I quite liked its epic, six-month-long storylines. But then I turned 14. And comics stopped doing it for me. Yes, even graphic novels. Even The Dark Knight Returns. I put them all in a big trunk and it went up in the loft and there it stayed.

>My parents deserve some of the blame for this. Dad was not a fan of comic books. His view was that the second you hit puberty, you put them behind you and started reading John Updike – and you damn well stuck at it until you liked it. And you know what? He was right. The travails of Rabbit Angstrom are better than any comic. They were better when I was 15 and they were a hell of a lot better by the time I was 25 – which is the median age of people who went to see The Avengers.

>And yes, I know Persepolis started as a graphic novel – and very good it is too. But it’s an exception to the general rule that if you need to shave, you should be reading books where you have to make the pictures in your own head. You can say this intellectual snobbery if you like, but you only have to go a little way down this road before you find yourself arguing that V for Vendetta is the equal of Lolita – and I’m afraid my artistic relativism doesn’t stretch that far, even if yours does.

>capes are shit, folks!

>Of course, I can’t be reading all the time, so thank God for TV. While Hollywood seems content to feed us an endless conveyor belt of dumbed-up dirty burgers for the mind, TV outfits ranging from Netflix to Channel 4 have recognised that there’s a market for drama that doesn’t involve men in capes. Series like The Wire, Breaking Bad, Narcos and Deutschland 83 are the real heirs to all those great films from the 1970s like Taxi Driver and Apocalypse Now. They’re the popular culture people will remember in 30 years time, not some crossover film that started life as an Excel spreadsheet at a LA branding consultancy.

>As for Superman v Batman, I’m sure I’ll watch it on a plane sometime in the next 12 months. Probably one of those really long flights to Asia.

If I have a job and pay my bills and taxes, who gives a fuck what I do with my leftover cash and time?

What should I care about what anyone thinks of what I have an interest in?

It's the same with movies and TV shows, people say I should kill myself or be ashamed for having poor taste at liking certain ones, especially on Sup Forums. It's never bothered me before, it doesn't bother me now.

I know taste is a thing that a lot of anons are insecure about, but you can like anything. It doesn't hurt anyone else.

Things the last generation did because they didnt have anything else to occupy themselves with.

>They’re the popular culture people will remember in 30 years time
They said the same about Hill Street Blues...

Is that the whole thing?

'cause, i really want a hamburger made with all those things he talked about now. Far more than a whatever that thing is he talks about as being more satisfying...

"buy?"

I do enjoy comic books from time to time. Not capeshit, but just your regular Euros, Disney's, occasional graphic novel. And I know why I like them, because they're basic, and geared towards kids, some are more ambitious, true, but they have nothing on a proper book, I mean capeshit, especially the main lines, is just a soap opera in spandex. I like to put away a book sometimes and read me some Asterix, Tintin or Donald. Having said that... I agree with the sentiment of that article - obsessing with comic books in adulthood is like being in a metal/punk/skinhead subculture - it just means your socialisation failed miserably and you haven't managed to mature properly. Maturing should mean broadening your intellectual horizons which could mean marginalising or even leaving behind your childhood pursuits. I think the author takes his stance a bit too far but he is not wrong - there are far too many emotionally underdeveloped manchildren wanking to 2D.

The fuck is a cassoulet

>hamburger out of Wagu beef mixed with foie gras and then serving it in a toasted brioche bun and topping it with artisan cheddar, oak-cured bacon and hand-brined pickles

Holy fuck that would be amazing.

It's true. stop indulging in glorified children movies.

I'm personally more offended by all that ME ME ME

>>Let’s use a food analogy.
Who wrote this?

Because whoever wrote this would love to read Sup Forums for Sup Forumsendetta?

French dish. It's a mixture of white beans, meat and pork skin, mixed in a sauce. It's good.

Quick glance at google's telling me it's a pot of meat and beans. Maybe it's something that guy's mum made for him, but that burger sounds way better.

>AIDSMOBY ruining everything like usual

Where are you going? Because I'd make sure you'd have time for that shit. Everyone needs time for comics and cartoons

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It's a french dish with meat and white beans. It's delicious but it's very rich.

I hate to sound like le Lewis Carol meme, but it took me to getting old and wretched to realize it doesn't matter what you like, most people won't care, just don't make an ass of yourself or hurt people, and try to support yourself and these interests in the process.

Seriously. Life is way too short to not do the things that bring you actual, genuine joy. I don't get this guy or guys like him. You don't get your cookie for being "an adult". Obviously I mean you still have to take care of your health and do something to support yourself, but nit picking interests is stupid

man this guy is a grade A douche

agreed

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>cassoulet
>more sophiticated
It's literally "put everything in a pot and let it cook for hours" kind of dish. Even fucking spaghetti bolognese are more sophisticated than a cassoulet.

Joke's on you, I haven't had Self Respect for so long, I've even forgotten the term a few times.

What is that about? I think I may have just proved your point.

Agreed. Just look at Sup Forums and Sup Forums and tell me we're respectable adults.

>Normalfag opinions
Into the trash it goes

>You can say this intellectual snobbery if you like
I will

So...what happens if you've done both, and then some? Se this is why these articles on what is manly are all so dumb; their myopia suggests a man can only have, reasonably, two uses of leisure time.

It's true though. I have yet to see capeshit that wasn't pure distilled retardation. I don't understand how other people can genuinely enjoy that shit, unless they are developmentally stunted.

Fuck you, Mike

>Of course, I can’t be reading all the time, so thank God for TV.

>Dismisses a medium as 'not real art'
>Admits to watching and liking TV

You can't make this shit up.

Listening to jazz and doing taxes.

I will never watch even a second of any of these videos.

Updike is good, but I wouldn't hold him as some paragon is western literature. At best, his craft is worth investigating.

What does a self respecting adult buy and watch? Is it harry potter and game of thrones?

>dismiss
>medium
>art
you don't even know the meanings of any of these words, you retarded manbaby

Nothing.

In what way did I use any of those words incorrectly? Or are you just butthurt that I knocked TV?

fpbp

Can anyone here truly say they are completely without some level of self-loathing.

Captialsation and punchuation.

Regretting

No. TV is quite possibly the worst invention, second only to the internet.

Art movie