>Once-ler fucks up the whole continent by killing every tree >O'hare develops a way to clean the air and keep people alive by the sweat of his own brow >O'hare has to maintain the machines that process the air, power the air converter plants, transport the air to the city and distribute the air, paying for all the employee's who do this >Obviously since this is a valuable scarcity that costs a lot to provide to the public he must charge money to keep this operation running >Ends up being called a GREEDY DIRTBAG and killed by a mob for his invention
Anybody with that fuckin haircut deserves to lose everything. Inculding their life, this fucker got off easy
Cameron Turner
He flew too close to the sun.
Austin Lee
>Sets up circus to scare people >Is profitable because people liked to be scared >Two Dipshit kids sign up to be employed at the circus >Kids didn't read the fine print >Painted as the villain even though nothing he has done so far is illegal. >Eaten by Crows >
Justin Morales
He was marketing and controlling what should be a natural-fucking-resource.
Even if he didn't cause the original situation that fucked up the environment and technically he stepped in with a solution, it was entirely a for-profit scheme that only really profited him wouldn't fix anything. It just kept a cycle going, and he duped the town into thinking that everything was fine and any alternate solution would be crushed.
Imagine if Flint Michigan's entire political engine bailed on the town after their fuck up, and a business tycoon came in with--just for the sake of argument-- a water making machine that he could charge the shit out the citizenry for but he actively prevented anybody from trying to clean the water sources or pipes that originally messed everything up.
That's what O'Hare did.
Cameron Turner
For like 30 years until the Once-ler finally said "oh btw I have this seed that I could have planted years ago but decided not too for some reason"
There were literally no other trees or seeds in existence that anyone knew about
What was O'Hare gonna do, shit a tree out of nowhere
He did what he could
Bentley Morales
Again.
He *controlled and marketed a natural resource.* Oncler kept mining a finite resource without replenishing it or even caring about the effects. This guy on the other hand created a perpetual cycle that would never fix anything and sat on the resource. It wasn't treated like a utility service with regulations. You people always go on and on about how this was *just* a business and there was nothing he could do but profit the living shit out of the situation and rake in money. Bullshit. It's the same reason we only have pitiful forays into alternative car fuels because the oil industry and car manufacturers squelched any innovations for their own selfish profits.
Gabriel Bennett
Yeah but all his shit should belong to the peeps, yo.
Austin Richardson
He literally charged people to breathe air.
David Robinson
Because it had to be manufactured
If sometime has to be paid to make, it has to be paid for to use
Anthony Watson
>Just an average Joe doing his job. >Obviously enjoyed doing what he loved >Young Boy Genius asks for a 15 Dollar Ice Cream bar. >Gets payed with fucking pennies. >Is forced to count them all. >Falls over on his shoelace carrying said pennies. >Breaks his tooth, followed by his girlfriend kicking him out, then getting his car towed. Has to then live on the street with wild animals and can no longer eat the very thing he sells due to the pain.
This guy did not deserve the torture he got.
Oliver Adams
But it's still originally a natural resource. It should have become a utility service like power or water (which we even in real life fuck up) and not something that one "entrepreneur" can monopolize and control however they feel like it.
Christopher Butler
>Painted as the villain even though nothing he has done so far is illegal. Violated the Fair Labor Standards Act.
Wyatt Sanders
>Painted as the villain even though nothing he has done so far is illegal. New York is a weird enough place that there's probably some laws against turning children into chimpanzees.
Carson Long
>just wanted a cool skeleton army fuck kids
Gabriel Hill
>it's still originally a natural resource. so is food, originally. but you have to pay for it as long as it's produced by humans
Jose Perez
Removing sentience of creatures is evil.
And it's not like it was THE HEROES who fucked up with him anyway. It was crows out of nowhere.
Zachary Thomas
this entire movie was a rape of the Lorax, and everything it stood for. that's agreed.
but this guy was no villain that's for sure.
Jackson Collins
Yes, and there are multiple sources and competitors for that particular necessity usually; once you control the ENTIRE supply of something it's a monopoly, which is unethical or it becomes a utility, which is regulated.
Zachary Powell
Not him but apparently the town/country allows monopolies as no one legally forced competition. Even further he supposedly was allowed to strong arm too as the legal powers didn't stop him. He was within legal right as far as I'm concerned, though morally I'm not as inclined to agree with.
Joshua Lee
I don't know how fucking patent laws work in the Lorax
but if all the water on earth became shit, and only one man had the Water Filters to fix them, do you really think he would pay to make them all and give them away at cost?
No
Blame the Once-ler for fucking everything up not O'Hare for an imperfect solution
Cooper Foster
His brother was worse imo , going back in time and giving Dinos sentience with his stupid brain cereal
This is why we need a prime directive
Luis Campbell
I guess Loraz is some anarcho capitalist shit
does a government even exist
Camden Nguyen
forcing monopoly laws on him would simply result in several companies making you pay for breathing, instead of one.
Ian Bell
Cat deserved to get pounded by him. He was a cunt.
Cliff did nothing wrong.
Childhood is when you idolize Cat Adulthood is when you realize Cliff makes a lot more sense
Caleb Evans
>Do you have change for a hundred?
Ian Nguyen
He's a manlet.
Dylan Cook
>He was marketing and controlling what should be a natural-fucking-resource. Just like health care, right??
Michael White
Wait, you can dig health care out of the ground OR pluck it from trees? WHERE THE HELL CAN I FIND THESE?!
Robert James
In the tax payers pocket
Luke James
This is complete and utter bullshit. Cat is an abuse victim of Dog's stupidity. Cliff is a jerk who just likes to beat people up. Why does Cat deserve to get even more abuse just because CLIFFORD is insecure? >inb4 "he's an ass to dog" Don't pretend Dog is some benevolent force. He's a complete and utter idiot and a detriment to Cat and everybody else. But it all falls back on Cat because he's the responsible of the pair. Dog can't be held accountable for any of his actions. Cat has to share not only his space and his life, but his body EVEN HIS HEALTH DEPENDS ON DOG'S ABILITY TO MAINTAIN IT which, guess what? When you're stupid and don't care about taking care of your body (like the TEETH EPISODE??) it doesn't happen So cat has to literally maintain them both you can understand if he's a little frustrated and annoyed
Jordan Cooper
Well, if you believe in hollistic medicine, kinda.
Chase Wright
I wish there were more cartoons with conjoined twins as main characters. It's a fascinating concept that was kinda wasted on a mediocre show.
Oliver Rodriguez
Dragon Tales had conjoined twins
John Hill
I never watched Dragon Tales, but I thought those were side characters.
Logan Jones
They were supporting characters
Aiden James
Imagine a slasher horror film episode of dragon tales where they Are picked off by a dragon slayer. Green head dies first and the purple head has to haul his corpse head for like half the episode .
Nathan Torres
I don't like this place anymore..
Robert Ortiz
... keep going...
David Gray
shit meme
Grayson Adams
>Once-ler fucks up the whole continent by killing every tree More like just the entire region. At worst, the whole country.
>O'hare develops a way to clean the air and keep people alive by the sweat of his own brow True, but then fucks it up by being a GREEDY DIRTBAG
>O'hare has to maintain the machines that process the air, power the air converter plants, transport the air to the city and distribute the air, paying for all the employee's who do this It's a vicious circle, nothing really moral or heroic about it. Thneedville doesn't have anybody who immigrates or migrates out of town. There is only a finite ammount of money in the village. He's essentially only lending money to his workers and the others which will eventually flow back to him one way or another.
>Obviously since this is a valuable scarcity that costs a lot to provide to the public he must charge money to keep this operation running True, but he knows it's a scarcity and wants to create more pollution so money flows to him faster.
>Ends up being called a GREEDY DIRTBAG and killed by a mob for his invention Deserved.
Once-ler is the true villain who did nothing wrong. How bad can he be?
Austin Diaz
this is way more accurate. Also nice dubs
Jaxon Morales
And he seems to say that the crows were going to eat him whenever he got scared, and he needed to scare other people to keep from being scared. It's more creative than the average Disney villain death but it raises a lot of questions. When did the crows take over his life? How did he figure out what they wanted? Was there any other way to deal with them besides scaring other people so they wouldn't eat him?
Julian Torres
When he actively worked to keep people from fixing the world, so that they would stay dependent on him, that's where he did wrong.
Ryan King
>Not wanting to be perfect
Logan Roberts
>Cat is an abuse victim of Dog's stupidity.
You can't blame Dog's stupidity and the suffering Cat got from it for Cat being a pompous prideful ass.
There are no likable characters on CatDog.
Anthony Watson
She was simply an entrepreneur.
Angel Lewis
I bet you think immortan joe was a pinnacle of human achievement
Tyler Allen
She was literally Hitler
Hudson Barnes
He is a Jew
Ethan Richardson
Haven't seen this episode in years and I still read that in his voice
Ryder Thompson
I'm going to Sup Forums , please take care of my lil' Griffith here
Lincoln Miller
The most interesting line of questions ive ever read on Sup Forums
What the hell is Screweyes tragic backstory? Why were him and his brother so different and so distant? Really smells like a curse, and there was already hyper science and possible mysticism at play.
Nicholas Wright
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Matthew Ortiz
There were two!
Dylan Wood
...
Colton Phillips
I love everything about her character. One of my favorite movies when I was younger.
There we go! Most of my questions answered in under a minute. That is a deep cut of exposition.
>I am the master of my fear This is the vibe I got from the movie; that the crows represented Screweyes' insecurities.
Dylan Smith
There's a difference between utilizing your livestock assets to create a product and making people-pot-pies.
Jacob Walker
>And it's not like it was THE HEROES who fucked up with him anyway. It was crows out of nowhere.
Screweyes kept crows around intentionally to use in his act; he thought by controlling them he could control his fear. The crows were just biding their time though.
Adam Stewart
>Raped Gut's qt girlfriend He deserves all the shit he gets
Mason Anderson
Holy Shit, that should have been in the movie.
Angel Hernandez
This faggot is literally just a male edna mode.
Bentley Hall
>health care >natural resource
Ian Stewart
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Chase Allen
We praise the creator of the polio vaccine specifically because he chose honor over profit.
Zachary Turner
She literally wanted to run a full scale business by slaughtering a handful of poultry.
She had maybe enough chickens for one truckfull.
Jordan Young
He's like an evil Batman
Landon Taylor
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Matthew Ramirez
>Mrs. Tweedy
Gonna be honest here, for longest time I thought she was a slightly feminine guy.
Camden Martin
>>black man kill his dad
Parker Williams
Your picture is almost worthless as in the real world that's false advertising and illegal. As I already stated I disagree on a moral level, but on the legal I see no wrong doing.
Henry Cooper
And you pay for water and food.
What of it?
Julian Cooper
I love it!
Michael Scott
I am going to blow your mind here:
>Screweye was Trueeye's tulpa.
He was never a real person like human being kind of person. Just sorta this 'thing' that Trueeye created somehow.
It was kind of a Mark Twain/Dark Half thing they had going. Screweye's real fear was that despite everything he KNEW deep down in side he was a sentient psychic reflection. And at any moment unless he stayed relevant somehow he would cease to be as soon as people looked away.
This was really discussed at length by the director I believe.
Aaron Anderson
Anybody else disturbed by the way the chameleon more or less casually murdered her and the vibe was 'meh, no big loss.'
>Sympathetic villain. >Everyone is psychopaths and has a laugh at her demise.
Jace Rogers
Wouldn't competition lead to better air and lower prices for the consumer though?
David Watson
>Everything he said was 100% correct from a logical standpoint >Everyone he killed was basically an obstacle to making sure no-one on Earth died >most villains want to kill everyone on Earth, he wants to kill death itself
Jonathan Watson
This statement is justified with the fact that she did indeed do something wrong, but not in the context implied by OP.
Eli Baker
It's hard to feel remorse for someone who exploited a kidnapped, royal, magic child, lied to and deluded said child, and how-many-times-do-I-have-to-kill-you-BOY'd her only (human) freind.
Also, those cheekbones were criminal.
Ryan Price
He was maintaining that resource through technology after some other fuck head fucked it up. Doing that shit for free when no one is willing to pay for the repairs or expansion of that device means you don't get the device in the first place
Jaxson Sullivan
It would never fix it because, to everyone's knowledge, it was (without OHare) an unfixable problem
Connor Gomez
Exactly what he said would happen, happened. Moving onto Bonnie is just a temporary solution, they're still going to end up abandoned at some point. Even the toys at the day care aren't home-free, eventually they're going to get old and worn enough that the staff will have to toss them.
Blake Sanders
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Jonathan Lewis
>Has one bad day that screws up his life forever >Tries to lighten up the situation with a little humor >Gets beaten up nearly every day for the rest of his life by some rich chad asshole who gets off on bullying people poorer then himself
Ayden Martinez
someone had to do it.
Isaiah Anderson
>inb4 "he's an ass to dog" So... Dog's ass? ;D
Nolan Robinson
Don't listen to the neckbeard MRAs on this one. Stan was in the wrong.
Levi Powell
Only in that he didn't plow the shit out of spider-bimbo.
Dylan Morales
Coveting wealth and killing commies are proud American traditions, and this true patriot figured out a way to do both at the same time.
Jaxon Myers
Than you for getting the joke
Colton Cook
>finite ammount of money so what, then it circulates a bit faster, what's the problem? Money can be used for the same paycheck multiple times, there's no problem with that.
Justin Lopez
>'immortality' is turning into a charred corpse >nobody bothers to explain it to him Kaecilius is the victim here.
Jonathan Harris
>men engaging in casual flirting is wrong
Fuck off.
Evan Adams
If this dumb asshole had to spend all day counting 1500 pennies he deserves to be miserable. That's like thirty minutes worth of work even if you keep fucking up.
Jose Russell
She murders people daily and puts their corpses on display just because she could and thinly justifies it with "they were jerks!"
Giffany did nothing wrong.
Brayden Nelson
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Owen Wright
Yeah, no.
You could absolutely have a debate if we were talking about the Once-ler from the original animated short.
This fucker?
No.
Also this movie is utter shit and you're shit for reminding me that it exists.