Amazing Spider-Man 2 may have been a mess narratively and tonally, but I genuinely appreciate how they handled Gwen Stacy's death.
The web tendril becoming a hand was a bit melodramatic, I admit, but they didn't sugarcoat it on any level and you really got a sense of that sickening impact in theatres.
On the whole I think Andrew Garfield was a good Spider-Man anyway.
I'm sure there were more but these were the ones that came to mind
Evan Perez
Actually, I'd argue that in the comics Peter was in a lose-lose situation: there's no way he would have been able to swing down to save her before she hit the water, he didn't have the time to create a net using his webbing and he wouldn't have reached her in time if he just flat out dove down to grab her.
Yes he was the one who was ultimately responsible for Gwen's death, but it was just as much a factor of the villain putting him between a rock and a hard place as it was in the movie.
I agree that it might have been more impactful and dramatically significant if he had snapped her neck instead of letting her hit the ground, but you also have to consider that the only reason Gwen was even in that situation is because Peter went against her father's warnings and let her be a part of his life.
The blame still lies with Peter, then, albeit in a more indirect capacity.
Daniel Howard
The DCEU movies are such a fucking conundrum. It's like they have all the elements of an enjoyable cinematic experience (good actors, powerful scenes, great visuals and cinematography, even a few good lines) but then they just drop it all on the floor on their way to deliver it.
Jace Jenkins
Its so fucking simple.
The director never grew out of being just a music video director, and the movie is written with a "trailer scene" in every scene.
Asher Bennett
Everyone trash talks the web hand but Peter used to make silly shit like parachutes and tools out of his webbing
No OP fuck you there was nothing good about that movie especially hat scene
Charles Morris
Jesus christ those special effects were terrible. The claws look like an obvious photoshop even in that picture.
Easton Gonzalez
Terrible directing and zero understanding of what makes their characters great.
Dominic Ross
>stacks it into the ground from hundreds of feet up hard enough to die instantly >still looks fine, not a drop of blood
I don't expect full-on gibs in a kids' spoderman movie but that's ridiculous
Wyatt Miller
It's a good scene in spite of Eisenberg's performance and look.
Ayden Perry
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Brody Walker
>It's another TASM 2 sucks thread.
Grayson Cook
How about you post one first?
Tyler Lopez
I just like that she actually died and that for once the hero doesn't bullshit his way out of one of those catch 22 scenarios. I'm looking at you Spider-Man 1 and Batman Forever.
I love videos like this, that talk about a movie from a film making perspective. Every comic fan will have different opinions of what they want from their movies, so I feel like judging movies purely from a comic fan's perspective is less valuable than this sort of critique.
Benjamin Johnson
BvS is shit but the death of Superman was done so great
Levi Murphy
I hate the fact that because this film did Gwen's death, no other Spider-Man film can do it now.
Austin Smith
user, they can re-do it just fine. They killed Uncle Ben twice. And the Wayne's have died at least once per batman movie.
Tyler Sullivan
They'll do it in 10 years.
John Adams
That scene where Pepper is using her temporary super powers to fuck the villain's shit up, and then comes to her senses and goes '...oh...that was really violent...' That was such a sexy scene and a cute line despite the story-line being such absolute shit and Pepper not being likable at all in Iron Man 3.
Samuel Hernandez
Gambit was also perfect. Damn shame the movie was such a half-assed collage of bad retcons. It had some great actors.
I also liked the scene where Wolverine is boxing with Blob. That felt like the sort of ultra-macho scene we used to love LOGAN for back before he became this pussy named James Howlet.
Movie really should've just focused on him the entire time and dropped Venom for the fourth movie that would never happen honestly.
Liam Walker
Raimi was forced to make a Venom movie, but he wanted a Sandman movie. I'm glad we at least got a good Sandman. If he had made the mode with only Venom it probably would have still been bad because he just didn't want to do Venom.
Jeremiah Ward
>that crack i remember the whole theater cringing at that
Leo Diaz
>we at least got a good Sandman He was boring as fuck, had a tacked-on "sympathetic" motivation that's hard to give a fuck about because his daughter had like one or two forgettable scenes and his existence retroactively ruined one of the most powerful scenes in the first film.
Logan Watson
This. They couldn't even kill her where she died because Raimi already did that.
Michael Hall
>there's no way he would have been able to swing down to save her before she hit the water, he didn't have the time to create a net using his webbing and he wouldn't have reached her in time if he just flat out dove down to grab her. He learnt to do it later though
William Wilson
I completely forgot that this movie didn't fall into the trope of "the mask/helmet comes off in the final fight" that the movies tend to do.
Gabriel Murphy
That's because Garfield fucking loved being Spider-Man and fought to keep things as comic accurate as possible.
I feel sorry for the guy: he got a really bad rap.
Evan Bell
>I hate the fact that because this film did Hary becoming Green Goblin, no other Spider-Man film can do it now.
Gabriel Garcia
>The montage near the start where he saves the kid from bullies, and helps him fix his science project
Peak levels of Spider-man, right there.
Zachary Baker
> I genuinely appreciate how they handled Gwen Stacy's death.
Let's see:
>no reason at all whatsoever for her to be even near Spidey's fight except she read the script and knew she had to die
>also this was justified again with the "Peter is the most retarded genius ever and need help from other geniuses to explain shit to him and help him with stuff" excuse
>no emotional build up for Goblin's hatred for Petor
>gwen becomes a mere casualty instead of a victim of premeditated murder
I didn't like this movie much (felt like a PG-13 more boring version of a comic it's based on, in my opinion) but this scene was fantastic and a big improvement over a scene in the comic where this character only appear to be immediately killed by Frank.