Why do people try to rewrite history and claim that Lucas isn't the man behind the OT?
He is responsible for the parts everyone remembers even from the ones he didn't direct. He wrote the "I am your father line" for Christ's sake".
Even if you don't like the PT, no one ever says "oh he lost his touch" like they do with Coppola, it's always muh saved in editing muh Kasdan, muh shaved rat who really came up with the story.
Stoklasa made and edited over 3 hours of video essay to explain his points. It took him months to write it and put it together. You wrote 6 lines of poorly thought up text on the worst board of Sup Forums. You probably thought about it for less than 10 minutes.
Your only argument seems to be "he IS responsible for the good parts because fuck you and fuck Stoklasa". You'll forgive me if I don't find all of this very convincing.
Jack Butler
Because they hate him.
Same reason they suck disney's dick.
Josiah Kelly
Fuck off mike
Cameron Price
Who cares about this fucking manchild kike garbage
James Bailey
lol no
John Hall
But Mike is too stupid to follow TPM. He wonders why the council didn't send more Jedi back to Naboo- but the answer is obvious. They want to "draw out the Queen's attacker". Maul won't show if he thinks he'll get fucked up.
Parker Scott
this unironically
Lincoln White
Well?
Jayden Walker
This scene of the prequels clearly shows that the good parts of the original trilogy were George's work, and nobody else's. Or you seem to think so for some reason.
David Johnson
No, I just think it shows that Mike is sloppy and finds flaws out of his own failings.
Cameron Torres
Was this thread really worth making again? It was already explained in the the last thread why George doesn't get all the credit for Star Wars. You didn't need to do this again.
Ethan Hill
>It was already explained in the the last thread why George doesn't get all the credit for Star Wars. It most certainly was not.
>all the credit Not the claim. Read the Coppola part again.
Robert Harris
So basically the people that hate on the PT are the same people that seriously think frodo and sam should have ridden eagles to mount doom
Ryan Stewart
The prequels feel like weird super high budget indie movies. The disney wars movies are just generic marvel tier shit.
Levi Wood
Take your pills and hit the hay, George
Josiah Thompson
literally figuratively and spiritually not and argument
Aiden Stewart
I'm not arguing with you, mister.
Bed. NOW.
Joshua Garcia
But moooom
Josiah Phillips
I will fuck your butt raw george get in the bed and not another word
Nathan Evans
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John Cox
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Asher Price
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Mason Brooks
*two
Carson Clark
*eight
Michael Flores
Everything that's not the Original Trilogy sucked ass. Don't even pretend like the prequels were good. Revenge of the Sith had some cool action scenes, that's it.
Isaac Robinson
People who enjoy the prequels are almost always autistic. Mike and rlm fanboys are stupid as fuck, you can't make mentally defective people to understand films when they cognitively cannot appreciate basic elements of storytelling like characterization. Prequel hate is retarded, it's like being mad at amputees for being shit at walking.
Christian Fisher
>Everything that's not the Original Trilogy sucked ass. Even Return of the Jedi is mediocre. When it does things right it boasts some of the greatest material of the entire saga, though that stuff exists alongside filler tier and rehashed material.
Mason Thomas
Do people actually sit through the second act on rewatches? Jabba's palace and the throne room are the only good things about the film
Grayson Adams
I've never seen an explanation for how or why TPM is worse than RotJ.
Ryan Murphy
Life is too short to waste time analyzing the difference between two turds.
Austin Mitchell
>Mike and rlm fanboys are stupid as fuck Yes, yes they are, see
Levi James
And yet people do turd analysis on this board 24/7.
The one is RotS is better. Both attempt shots of ships broadsiding each other, but Rotas does it better.
Blake Walker
Rogue One is better than any of the piece of shit episode 1-7 movies so who fuckin cares.
Jaxon Cox
Jabba's Palace doesn't hold up to scrutiny, however, the fight on Jabba's Barge is one of the finest examples of blockbuster filmmaking. The space battle is exciting and attempts to distinguish itself from the Trench Run in ANH. The Throne Room sequence is amazing, Williams is on point with the score here, and is the closest thing in the film to filling like a sequel to TESB.
Another positive is the design of the Death Star II. I would have preferred something different, though at least it is visually striking.
Owen Hall
I thought the rogue one battle was better to be quite frank
Justin Ross
>those tie fighters that just pop into existence
Nathaniel Barnes
>Another positive is the design of the Death Star II. The design was George's idea. Apologize.
Dominic Lopez
>Oh its another shitquel apologists crys about RLM Damn, just chill out and watch one of your 5 hour cartoon laser sword duels.
Jordan Lee
>Why do people try to rewrite history and claim that Lucas isn't the man behind the OT?
Because his contribution has been overstated and then understated in reaction. He was undoubtedly important. Obviously. But, so was Ralph McQuarrie, his concept art and charterer designs had a huge impact on the movies. Or, Paul Hirsch who edited down a ton of footage into a comprehensible story.
David Nguyen
>Why do people try to rewrite history and claim that Lucas isn't the man behind the OT? anti-goyim sentiment since he's not a jew
Jason Baker
>Ralph McQuarrie Who do you think described to him what to draw, numbnuts?
Josiah Walker
false flag
Tyler Russell
>Why do people try to rewrite history and claim that Lucas isn't the man behind the OT? Because there's no rewriting involved. He was the main ideas guy behind it all, but many different hands (including his editor wife, writers, other director, etc) played a very large part in taking the OT great.
The prequels are the greatest example of how he has very interesting ideas, but he desperately needs other people to help him refine them and toss out some of his crazier ideas (or help keep humanity in the film, as was the case of his wife making sure Lucas kept in scenes during A New Hope).
Brody Evans
>. He was the main ideas guy behind it all, but many different hands (including his editor wife, writers, other director, etc) played a very large part in taking the OT great. Wow you just described most movies.
Zachary Martinez
>many different hands (including his editor wife, writers, other director, etc) played a very large part
oh so like every other movie that has ever been made
Carson Hernandez
Except the prequels where he didn't have any pushback, which OP was complaining about and ignoring. Obviously I stepped into a troll thread, moving on.
Lucas Wilson
>where he didn't have any pushback wrong desu Burtt, Williams, Neeson, Lee, etc all did some friendly jocking with him. Lee refused to beg for mercy to Anakin, for exsmple.
Cameron Flores
>It was McQuarrie who first suggested that Darth Vader should wear a breathing apparatus.[1] In an interview with Star Wars Insider Magazine, McQuarrie stated that Lucas's artistic direction was to portray a malevolent figure in a cape with Samurai armour. "For Darth Vader, George [Lucas] just said he would like to have a very tall, dark fluttering figure that had a spooky feeling like it came in on the wind." McQuarrie noted that the script indicated that Vader would travel between spaceships and needed to survive in the vacuum of space, and he proposed that Vader should wear some sort of space suit. Lucas agreed, and McQuarrie combined a full-face breathing mask with a Samurai helmet, thus creating one of the most iconic designs of space fantasy cinema.
Dylan Torres
This is disingenuous. Lucas had the Samurai helmet idea, being the weeb. McQuarrie only made the breather.
Ryan Powell
stop. troll thread.
Gabriel Diaz
Wait WTF I thought he was blonde
Jaxon Brown
lol
Adrian Young
>defending shit
Grayson Perry
This is a low effort post.
Jaxon Sullivan
OP is retarded. Go read a book. Pretty much Lucas was the idea guy. Him, his wife (and editor), friends, and co-writers all made what the OT was.
It was a collaborative and that's what made the prequels shitty (no one from the OT to help essentially, all yes men), as well as the Disney by-the-numbers movies (which is ironically inverse, too many cooks in the kitchen scenario).
2/10 bait people took it
Lincoln Gray
>2/10 bait people took it
but you took it though
Nolan James
Being a giant autist doesn't qualify as making a point, though.
Ryan Parker
Are you trying to spam this pasta as a new board meme or something? We've already had this twice today.
Camden Sanders
>Go read a book. OP here, I did. I read "Skywalking", that's why I made the post. Also he had plenty of challengers and collaborators on the PT. Tom Stoppard and Steven Spielberg were very involved in RotS.
Benjamin Martin
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Angel Wright
>He wrote the "I am your father line" for Christ's sake". Are quotation-marks new to you?
Gavin Ross
His attempts at doing Star Wars on his own demonstrate that he was barely a footnote to the success of the OT.