The Soviets made quite a few legitimately great films...

The Soviets made quite a few legitimately great films. So why have we not seen anything even remotely good from Russia today?

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>The Soviets made quite a few legitimately great films
What would those films be?

Ivan's childhood

Because todays Russia is a cultural wasteland?
Most good UDSSR Movies are either pre Stalinistic or made during the peretrsoyka of the 80´s when censorship was mux laxer than it is now in Mordor

Brat was pure kino

I'm so fucking glad I saw this one, for once you guys recommended something that was genuine kino.

Vatnik man of steel biopic when?

Come and see is shit. It's like a film version of the guy who rapes kids in his dungeon making a film about how "murder is bad".

>that final fucking montage
If ever there was a film that left a bad taste in my mouth, it was this one. Jesus H Christ.

SLAVOFIED

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cuz making movies is gay
t. russian

All that matters are more tanks for the army right?

Bondarchuk's War and Peace was so good the Oscars had to give in.

>army

*Vast bullet sponge.

hardcore henry, and night/day watch were kino

LIBERATED

i just realized that i don't think i've ever heard of a Russian comedy film or tv show, or even comedian

do they exist?

...

their action films are also their comedy.

Any news on its restoration?

>made during the peretrsoyka of the 80´s

Really? What's a good 80's Soviet film?

Just wanted to post the exact same image. Great taste m8.

>he doesnt know that going URAAAAAAAA makes germans paralyzed with so much fear they shit their pants.

What a surprising kino this was.

>Them trial scenes.

>Because todays Russia is a cultural wasteland?
This, communism destroyed russian society, now in the ensuing moral vacuum it's become the most nihilistic place on earth, literally a postmodern hell.

Read pic related if you want to understand.

Come and See, Vassa, Wild Pigeon, Nostalgia. I can't name anything else.

Not as good as Grave of the Fireflies

why is it that all films about emotional broken buzz cut Russians are always kino?

>Come and See
>1985

Hmm...why did I think it was a 70s movie?

Who cares?

is that bogs?

>Most good
>pre Stalinistic

Are serious? It was nothing but hardcore commie propaganda. At least later they slightly explored some social themes that weren't about how great commie party is and how it will win everything.

>movies were great when 80´s when censorship was mux laxer
>when censorship had gone completely all those geniuses disappeared somehow and didn't create shit

Hmmm.

I just watched a soviet comedic play the other day. The suicide by nikolai erdman

WOW! Eleven looks like that?

>great culture produced under pseudo-communism
>capitalism takes over
>culture plummets
>Sup Forums blames communism

>pre Stalinistic
>and 80´s

Tark is literally the only auteur worth mentioning and you left him out for some no names?

Opinion = discarded.

youtube.com/watch?v=9uhbUuEL-0k

For anyone who is really interested.

Stop that.

Fuck you I liked it.

I hear they're currently doing a strange reality TV show called "America"

Balabanov was his generation's best european director
russan cinema isn't doing well but at least they didn't end up as bad as the french and italians

Wasn't there a fairly recent Russian adaptation of 'Doctor Zhivago'? Was it good?

The market of film now dictates emulation of modern western schlock. Russia isn't nearly as good at being American as we are, ourselves, so what you get is a half-assed attempt at trying to tell mediocre stories with an over-emphasis on cinematography, which Russia fails at due to their lacking of a sense of subtlety. The result being heavy-handed color grading, exaggerated dolly shots, and overbearing scenes of characters staring directly into the camera.

Putin

Funny thing is, this kind of books are written by butthurt trotskyite jews that are still mad that Stalin purged them all, and consider Russia "a lost chance" since they "betrayed" great Lenin-Trotsky revolution,

Them complaining about "muh communism" is nothing but hypocritical slander, since they then turn around and vote for modern socialists and SJW's in their Western countries.

>Russian
>european director

You're a ignorant dipshit.

Maybe you should look this book up before vomiting your Sup Forums drivel everywhere, you fucking schizophrenic.

>imblying

Zvyaginstev, Sokurov, and German Jr. all exist

why don't you tell him why and how exactly he is wrong, you triggered kike stain?

>Read pic related if you want to understand.
I googled that and he has a lecture on youtube. I'm going to watch it and if it sucks I'm gonna be a little upset with you. But it sounds very interesting.

Fucking idiot, the gaping hole that the collapse of the ussr left was solely the fault of centralized government aka communism going from responsible for all and every to nothing at all. Capitalism didn't "take over" in the imperial sense and even after implementation it's taken decades to get back to something decent for russias standard.

stalin went hardcore against jews and jews are good at kino

>le pol boogeyman

He's right btw, got any arguments behind those ad hominems?

Modern Russia is a shithole

>Distilling 20 years of political change into three non-sentences

You are a cancer to the world.

Who are "we" exactly? A lot of kino coming out of our great motherland, you're just too pleb to recognize it. Zvyagintsev, Alexei German senior and junior and Sokurov make absolute kino and there are a lot of other directors such as Sergei Loban, Anna Melikyan, Mestetsky and others making generally nice films. And for the first time ever we're starting to make action films that are actually watchable. Like this one here
youtube.com/watch?v=mOhe4by-kWI
or that one
youtube.com/watch?v=RLt65JxNsWI
or Hardcore Henry, that's a Russian film by Russian director and it was shot in Moscow.

And here's some dramatic stuff
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holy shit, that's a nice chart
got anymore else saved like it? in a mood for some kino. Doesn't have to be russian or anything, I just like this chart inspired format
Why doesn't Sup Forums have charts like Sup Forums and /lit/ has?

He's 'wrong' in that he started ranting about some completely irrelevant Sup Forums conspiracy horseshit about 'MUH TROTSKYIST JEWS' that no mentally balanced person ITT gives a shit about.

I wish there wasn't so many of you fucking imbeciles on this site now, you've made it borderline unusable with all your garbage. I hope you die of lung cancer, subhuman.

It's extremely interesting, he goes into how the modern Russian propaganda system functions, and the affect it has on the Russian people as a whole.

they are still able to make 3-5 kinos every year. it's not even that hard to look for russian movies in the age of internet...

That "great culture" was forced and shit. And yes, Communism is to blame.

All utter trash.

the face of russian Кинo

Hardcore Henry is one of the best action movies of the past decade.

That's the problem. The same internet that allows me to search great soviet movies, allows me to come to the conclusion that present day Russia is bereft of talented film makers.

>back when we stood in two mile long lines for a slice of bread we had REAL culture
>fucking capitalism

his perspective is not really Sup Forumsish

critique of Troskyites is easy cause they are generally extremely shit

Capitalism happened. Most modern Russian movies are bottom of the barrel trash to earn some meagre profits from bydlo, embezzle government grants, or state propaganda. So, quite often it's akin to Hollywood capeshit without the budget necessary to make it tolerable or shitty comedies.
The decay of the 90s also killed off the directing and acting traditions of the USSR.

>It's extremely interesting, he goes into how the modern Russian propaganda system functions, and the affect it has on the Russian people as a whole.

The country became so conditioned to being lied to and fucked with that now its like they have Stockholm Syndrome and can't live without it.

What the fuck are you talking about? No 'argument' has been presented, you brainless piece of shit.

Do you even know what a fucking 'ad hominem' is, and what context to use it in? Or do you just parrot these Latin phrases to seem like you aren't a completely uneducated cretin? Fuck's sake. And this thread started to look salvageable.

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Soft Americans and their need for food. The Dacians need nothing but work and mass patriotic love for the conducator.

Most of the popular soviet films were actually comedies and romantic films. It's just that nobody in the West saw them because that's not what the West wants to see. Average Russian never saw a single Tarkovsky film, but he probably saw every Gaidai film. It's the opposite in the West, nobody heard of Gaidai in the West.

Brat and Brat 2 is pretty kino, especially in the sequel where he goes to America and shoots a couple of niggers to save some russian hooker.

Ivan Changes Profession is breddy funny

also there was this one movie of the guy who gets drunk and accidentally flies from moscow to st. petersburg and he goes to a random apartment but since the street has the same name and all apartments look the same he doesn't even notice he isn't actually home, and then there's a girl living there. It's pretty funny actually.

In a nutshell, this.

It's also (one of many reasons) why they struggled so much to implement a functioning democracy.

You know what a better idea would be? If he would prove his points first. That's usually how a logical debate takes place.

Peter Pomerantsev isn't Jewish.

>mentally balanced person ITT gives a shit about.
Yeah clearly not you, self reflection chap you need it, fucking volatile infant cunt. He was still right btw, Peter pomerantsev is a notorious leftist annoying cunt who's exclusively chosen targets make it obvious as fuck what his agenda is, doing basic research and drawing conclusions is not a conspiracy. Cunting mong spastic go wank to your karl marx poster before we fucking kill you on day of the rope.


>No 'argument' has been presented,
That's why i asked if you had any? lmao great reading comprehension champ, fucking meat brains. Keep going you're pretty funny to observe.

>uses ad hominem attack
>acts like he didn't

wewwwwwwwww, what chemicals keep you going through the day chief? probably a yank fuck up.

Solaris is the best. I work near the sea and whenever I look out the window, all I can think of is Solaris. It's a beautiful film.

But there's nothing to debate, you brainless dipshit. All he did was go off on some irrelevant tangent on how their book was a written by a jewish Trotskyite.

It's really funny watching you fucking idiots pretend that you even understand how a 'debate' works by the way, absolutely comical. Keep it up, I'm sure your mentally deranged rants are worth taking seriously.

russian sherlock holmes is bestest sherlock holmes

This isn't the 1960s, you can't brainwash people using TV and newspapers. I'm here on Sup Forums reading news on Sup Forums and you're trying to tell me Putin's propaganda controls my mind.

Well he does control Sup Forums, so maybe you're right.

Read my post again, and who I was replying to. Then think about the term "brainless dipshit", and how that applies to you.

This post is essentially a self-parody.

>Cunting mong spastic go wank to your karl marx poster before we fucking kill you on day of the rope.
Now this is what I call 'logical debate'.

A brick has more agency than you people.

I'd watch the biopic.

Oh fuck off, you stupid cunt. It wasn't obvious at all who you were referring to.

There are a lot of theories going on here in this thread. Many contain kernels of truth but none are really sufficient on their own as I see it.

I dunno much about Russian culture asides from a couple classical novels. However, as I understand it, the 80s saw a time of economic stability but relative stagnation. The collapse of the Soviet union inside Russia was driven by cynical elites more than anything else.

The 90s saw an absolutely shocking decline in living conditions in Russia. Healthcare, wages and heating were denied from the people. Oligarchs were fighting a low intensity war over the scraps of the Soviet empire. This is an extremely depressing atmosphere. I can imagine that the cultural institutions of Russia collapsed together with the political ones.

I know that early 90s had a notoriously free and exciting culture of journalism, that in many ways was more free than in the west. That changed after a famous journo was murdered by a Yeltsin cabinet member. Journalism was consolidated by the oligarchs.

Seeing all this, it wouldn't be surprising if the cultural output of Russia has declined a little bit.

However as some people here claim, maybe its a mirage and actually we are just for whatever reason not seeing the Russian kino in the west
I think everyone wud enjoy it if you enlightened us about the popular, mainstream culture and comedy from Soviet times.

I love to hear about stuff like this

Yeah a biopic of a braindead manlet

Ten Little Indians
My Friend Ivan Lampshin
Repentance
Kin-dza-dza

Either way he's pedaling ideology that absolutely is jewish in origin. 85% of the ussr government was also jewish. Hungarian uprising 1956? revolt against the commie jewish gov then to. Peter pomerantsev is honestly total shit, completely lopsided bias and like a sophomore with his MUH TRUMP MUH PUTIN shite.

Oh you noticed? I'm surprised, i wanted to see which bait lines dressed up in a stereotype you seem to see everywhere ironically like an actual schizo that you'd quote and as expected you choose the correct one. Sucks to think you're so intelligent whilst really being a noisey buffoon barely north of the kind of mind that sticks rowntrees fruit gums up his arsehole.

You seriously need self reflection, worthless dirty mom shite.

Stay mad Mongol he took away your autonomy you ain't getting it back.

sorry
>Ivan Lapshin
not Lampshin

They made a russian version of it's always sunny

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te omor moldovene

>it's the no rape on the Western Front meme
Yeah, debunked. I could post more links but they are in German.
telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/germany/11455664/Allied-soldiers-raped-hundreds-of-thousands-of-German-women-after-WW2.html

>act like a schizo retard
>get called out on it
>'dude I was just pretending to be retarded lmao!'
Great, when are you going to start this 'debate' of yours? What would you like to discuss?

Nazis never held guns to innocent kids.