Steven Universe

Steven Universe
>fans stress no such thing as filler episodes
>only development from Beach city episodes are development for boring humans, on and off Lars and Sadie relationship, and Ronaldo is right gags
>none of these "developed characters" ever interact with gems or bigger storyline besides Greg and Connie
>doubt "Kiki's Pizza Delivery Service" and "generic-child-has-parent-issues plot for more than half of all the Beach city episodes" are gonna matter in the future

Star vs the Forces of Evil
>forbidden chapter that seems like just a gag subplot in Page Turner actually is brought up and is important later
>Mewberty actually is relevant part of Star's family as shown with Game of Flags' ending
>Tom, Kelly, St. Olga, and other seemingly one off characters make casual appearances and make their presence known even if they aren't in their own episode
>Filler and extremely plot-centric episodes don't feel as jarring as in SU and it blends together nicely

Star VS does what SU tries to do but better.

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>one off characters return
>Marcos friends dissapear

Alfonzo was a waste of Chapman's voice talent.

How does Adventure Time and Gravity Falls fare?

They even joke about this in the show, he has better friends now

Don't like Adventure Time anymore but they are on and off with this. Some characters return like that Root Beer Cop guy and others are forgotten.

Gravity Falls did a good job with it though. Past characters are referenced and return. You have to admit a lot of old characters were used in the finale for cool callbacks even if you weren't a fan of the finale overall.

Okay you got a point there. Comment retracted. Best left unheard of again.

Let me just add though not every character has to be brought back with such a long show so AT I'd say is still more hit than miss.

All that, plus hardcore cuckqueaning! How can the lesbogems and their pet retard compete?

When did they mention it in the show?

>>Mewberty actually is relevant part of Star's family as shown with Game of Flags' ending
Can you remind me what happend?

Janna and Ponyhead are trash. He's just lost those two and gained Star and Janna.

The ludo in the wild episode reaked of filler but actually tied well into the plot.

The only reason Steven Universe is popular is because SJWs like the gay lesbian space rocks.

It's also the only reason Sup Forums like it. Just check out /sug/, it's all waifu fagging and gay space rocks

Yeah, aside from being funny and having interesting characters

Star's so "me too" it hurts.

>console wars thread
Stop being a faggot.
Sage and report this shit.

>Steven universe is fun or has interesting characters

Queen Butterfly turned into a butterfly like creature similar to how Star did in Mewberty

Doesn't mean that Star VS is straight up better (though I think it is), just means that this aspect is done better.

If anyone wants to refute go on ahead.

- Love, OP

>only remembers the second season of Star vs
I don't think your completely wrong if we only talk second season but to be fair it's easy to do similar things better when one is clearly given a bigger budget and more support

If I had to choose been working for CN or Disney I would choose Disney everyday at the very least they don't seem to skimp on episode budgets despite all other problems working for them might include

I actually laughed at some jokes in Star vs. Lots of them were miss but there were at least good jokes.

I can count the amount of jokes I've laughed at in Steven Universe in less than a single hand because it's never happened to me even once.

Also

>Steven Universe
>interesting characters

Good one.

They played possum one too many times.

Steven Universe

>Some episodes are filler, some aren't
>Some focus on random stuff like restaurants
having disputes, others focus on huge world-changing events
>Small details in some episodes turn out to be huge clues to later storylines
>Show has always been meant to be a mixture of comedy and adventure stories
>People who complain about "filler" are missing the point

Star vs the Forces of Evil

>Some episodes are filler, some aren't
>Some focus on random stuff like Star attending a football game, others focus on huge world-changing events
>Small details in some episodes turn out to be huge clues to later storylines
>Show has always been meant to be a mixture of comedy and adventure stories
>People who complain about "filler" are missing the point

Both cartoons are really good at what they do but have somewhat different vibes.

Not them, but since the second season did a good job building off of stuff from S1 and making it all feel connected later (despite some people who briefly worked on the show early on probably seeing it as purely episodic), that's the most important aspect: that they were able to make it all work and fit together, and similarly recognize and fix existing problems.

Though I'd argue Season 1 did an okay job of calling back to things that previously seemed insignificant as well, pic related. Just on a smaller scale and with a troubled production (Disney literally switched their animation studio midseason to a much cheaper and worse one with no warning, fucked with scheduling, etc.). If anything I think the "support" it has from the network right now is because it still managed to do well despite constraints like those and a short first season-- it earned it.

Note that I'm not even attempting to compare it to SU, or vice versa. I'm just a fan of Star who's also enjoyed the worldbuilding aspects of this season and was glad to see a thread that pointed it out too.

/thread

I like both.

>stuff that probably won't matter ever again

The joy-sucker, Naysaya, Brittney Wong

>stuff that probably will

This.

Oh yeah I totally forgot about that.

So is it all girls in those threads? Because i don't see why guys would care about shipping lesbians. Who do you self-insert as? Inb4 someone brings up lesbian porn, those aren't supposed to be actual lesbians.

And then there's the two kings of stuff that no longer matters.

Shipping isn't self-inserting, those are two completely different things.

>>fans stress no such thing as filler episodes
It did seem that it would be like that in season 1. No one really believes it anymore

Star Vs. is extremely overrated. And there's a lot more misses than hits.

There's probably only 5 episodes that are 7+/10, the rest are mediocre or boring as hell.

And the only thing that keeps people from focusing on this show's faults is what new waifus they can pair with Marco, their self-insert.

The difference is that lars is more likeable than any star vs character.

Fanboys still do.

Everytime someone comments that an episode felt pointless (not just filler, just basic and unimportant) that comes up.

My favorites are Battle Gear Star, St. Olga's Star, and Halloween Star. I'm not quite sure if that says anything about me.

We wish to be the little girl, user.

>Lars
>Likable in any way

The filler episodes of both shows are shit, but Star vs.'s fillers are worse

>Red Belt
>Fetch
>Star vs Echo Creek
>STARSTRUCK
>Trickstar
It's too bad their filler episodes fucking SUCK! The pacing in episodes like these is always so awkward, making the comedic timing lazy and the one-shot or side characters unbearable.

The Technicality of it is that Some things are important by themselves in retrospect, like most of the things Ronaldo does, or for things like Steven's powers or parts of the earth's dissonances in SU world and to introduce new gems, or simply to develop existing characters, however 11 minutes per episode allow you to

Episodes like Sadie's Song and Onion Gang have none of that, they are LITERALLY filler. There are very few filler episodes in there, and I hope that somehow, some way, both of these episodes have a huge callback to them for whatever reason, as it stands you can skip those episodes and you'll lose nothing of the Steven Universe experience

Good taste

Just noticed: the Star in the pink dress (above Kitten Star) looks unremarkable, but her wand is a different form than any we've seen before. That seems like too distinct a detail to have been put in unintentionally, especially since you can't see any of the other Stars' wands.

Damn right.
I was having trouble trying to understand OP's point on this.
Both series have pretty similar structures, but different approaches.

Personally I don't usually see people like that on Sup Forums. Even from the people who insist on defending the show's obvious flaws.

Didn't Trickstar have Weird Al?

>Comparing Gay Space Rocks to Cuckqueen the series

I don´t know, that dance club episode sucked really hard, and it was kinda boring.
Only thing i liked was Marco spending his 650 dollars

Or $6.50

Are you forgetting...

Retarded homophobe. Yawn

Obviously this thread is biased from starfags. Not many threads ago SUfags were saying how the show has lowered quality but it still isn't as dull as SVTFOE. Both that and this are retarted.

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I wonder if the recurring $650 is building up to something or if it's just a weird gag.

I mean, it's really odd for a 14 year old to have that kind of money at all, let alone be able to pull it out anytime he needs to.

when did this happen?

In the comics

In what way was that post homophobic?
Are you baiting or actually retarded?

Ludo in the wild is one of the best episodes. I don't know how that could ever be considered filler because without it, Ludo would appear out of nowhere with a wand for some reason.

>ludo in the wild episode reaked of filler

Why everytime a cartoon gains some popularity on / co / (Loud House / Star vs.), fags of these shows try to compete with Steven Universe?

I used to like both, until Su got so pussified. This kid nearly aged himself to death, was raised by warriors, and has seen grotesque monstrosities. . . But he still cries about his toys and fantasy worlds. It broke my immersion HARD because it's as if this retard learns nothing except new powers through all his trials and tribulations.

In Star Vs. , people are punished if they get too emotional. They have to become mature to survive, especially Marco. Marco is just a Man, but he is determined and stubborn, allowing him to surpass the expectations of those "higher beings".

I just wish SU was good again.

>want to talk about how good my show is
>start thread with STEVEN UNIVERSE
insecure much?

Dont forget about the best characters development
He even overcame his phobia via hardship

Also, she's to only one out of all the shards who has a wand

>Because i don't see why guys would care about shipping lesbians
come back when you're 18+

Indeed, I knew Ludo was never going to be a true villain once Toffee came on the scene and the history of Mewnian colonization was revealed.

I'm just surprised how far he's come along.

Venture Bros does is better than both.

Sugar will try to justify the Townie episodes with them chipping into a Spirit Bomb kind of thing at the end of the show prefaced with them reminding Steven about all the times he helped them.

It's weird too, because 667 is fairly recurring as well
Twice was just a reference to 666, but then the supergod king of time and space had 6 fingers on both hands, and a crown made of 7 swords...

Too bad the last episode semi reversed it .

Dude had way more daddy issues than a strip club.

Good point, both shows are of higher quality than Shitty Cacaverse, no need to beat up on the retarded.

I'm proud of him.

anything in /sug/ as autistic as the cinnamon meme?

...

Nope. Come at me SUfags.

How'd it revert?

it didn't? Kinda...

Basically he's using Glosseryck as a father stand in, and the more he does it, the more he acts like he did in season 1.

At the end of the day he is still himself, he never dipped down to try and change or had a revelation that made him want to change.

He was just forced into a really shitty situation, finally got the thing he wanted, and began to be guided by said thing, which changed his mindset.

...

>ignoring all the obvious as fuck but still present foreshadowing in SU
>implying svtfoe's filler episodes aren't as focusless and fucking annoying as SU's
>SU side characters don't disappear into thin air with no explanation when the plot/main characters are done with them
>doubt "pizza things" and "banagic wand" and "twat horse gets the same episode 500 times in a row and learns nothing" are gonna matter in the future
>m-muh teenage/rock romance...
>making any of your ten trillion throwaway gags important to the plot later has never been done before, take notes writurz
>nothing of importance is accomplished routinely in either show

nice try user, they're both terrible.

I think Star Vs has a more consistent level of enjoyability, while Steven Universe has higher highs and lower lows.

When SU focuses on the right character dynamics with the right boarders it's top tier, but things still keep coming back to the one-note townsfolk every story arc when it feels like things should be evolving more with the characters people are actually interested in.

whose the redhead

Princess Amethyst

thanks

>The only complaint with SU is townies
Star is your average (though very well done) high school action comedy, so it makes sense that the teenagers would be part of the action.
SU on the other hand is about a kid living between two worlds, the comfy slice-of-life village of oh-so-quirky townies, and the space drama adventures of a group of alien renegades. They don't have to be costantly entwined, but when they do (Lapis' debut, Greg's kidnapping, Steven's uncle) it feels great.

also:
>forbidden chapter that seems like just a gag subplot in Page Turner actually is brought up and is important later
>"We kept Amethyst" joke is later revealed to be a hint to Amy's backstory

>Mewberty actually is relevant part of Star's family as shown with Game of Flags' ending
>Fusion starts out as a cool power and later becomes one of the team members' raison d'etre

>Tom, Kelly, St. Olga, and other seemingly one off characters make casual appearances and make their presence known even if they aren't in their own episode
I'll give you this one.

>Filler and extremely plot-centric episodes don't feel as jarring as in SU and it blends together nicely
Again, it's the writers' intent, but whether you like it comes to personal taste.

I think that the bear star is a reference to "Yuri kuma arashi"

They made a comment about it in the comic for a 1 panel, I felt bad about it too. I liked the fat kid and twerpy loser kid.

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Hekapoo>mrs. Diaz>pixie empress>jackie>star>everybody else.

You don't know what you like

>that last Gag at the end
>Ludo was so dumb, he didn't even realize he was still on Mewni

inb4 Planet of the Apes

Naysaya helped get Marco together with Jackie

SU is shit.

The animation is atrocious, they regularly fuck up the most basic of animation practices

The music is forgettable (Sugar and her ukulele kek)

The world the story takes place in is undeveloped as fuck (the city on the beach they live in is called Beach City and the gem homeworld is called Gem Homeworld)

The protagonist is a literal fucking retard. He's the same age as both Star and Marco at 14 and fuck I'll even throw in TLA with Katara also being 14 at the beginning of the show and Aang was 12 and fucking Sokka was 15.

And I'm sorry but the whole fusion shit which is a clear metaphor for sex is fucking creepy. And especially when it takes place between CHILDREN. Oh and Amethyst because why the fuck not.

Also the voice actors are terrible. Garnet is by far the best example of this.

Also there is way too much fucking filler.

Is it any wonder SU attracts the most degenerate, autistic, toxic retards of any current fandom?

Steven Universe is just lesbian waifus slice of life.
>and "generic-child-has-parent-issues plot for more than half of all the Bleach episodes"
Ha, that would be funny, but I misread that.

the fact that ludo is better developed as a character than anyone in SU is hilarious

also frog dad makes greg look like the deadbeat loser he really is

>And I'm sorry but the whole fusion shit which is a clear metaphor for sex is fucking creepy. And especially when it takes place between CHILDREN. Oh and Amethyst because why the fuck not.
Connie being completely fine with Steven fusing with other people let alone Amethyst is weird

like how is she just okay with that?

Dont forget the deus ex machina with Greg becoming a millionaire. Truly the pinnacle of plot development right there

Who cares? Call me when Star vs the Fags of Evil has a cute green autistic girl to swoon over.

>Star VS does what SU tries to do but better.

Star vs the Forces of Evil also gets bonus points for providing comedy, even in its more serious episodes. Steven Universe takes itself too seriously for me.

thats how you do plot progression
problem with steven universe is that it copies all the bad stuff about anime and none of the good