TOP 10 COMIC BOOKS > 1. U.S.AVENGERS #1 (MAR) > 2. BATMAN #14 (DC) > 3. BATMAN #15 (DC) > 4. JUSTICE LEAGUE/POWER RANGERS #1 (DC) > 5. THE WALKING DEAD #162 (MR) (IMA) > 6. ALL-STAR BATMAN #6 (DC) > 7. JUSTICE LEAGUE VS. SUICIDE SQUAD #3 (DC) > 8. MONSTERS UNLEASHED #1 (MAR) > 9. AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #23 (MAR) > 10. JUSTICE LEAGUE #12 (DC)
TOP 10 GRAPHIC NOVELS & TRADE PAPERBACKS > 1. BATMAN VOLUME 1: I AM GOTHAM TP (DC) > 2. KILL OR BE KILLED VOLUME 1 TP (MR) (IMA) > 3. THE FLASH VOL. 1: LIGHTNING STRIKES TWICE TP (DC) > 4. SUPERMAN VOL. 1: SON OF SUPERMAN TP (DC) > 5. SAGA VOLUME 1 TP (MR) (IMA) > 6. JUSTICE LEAGUE VOL. 1: THE EXTINCTION MACHINE TP (DC) > 7. PAPER GIRLS VOLUME 1 TP (IMA) > 8. STAR WARS: HAN SOLO TP (MAR) > 9. GREEN ARROW VOL. 1: THE LIFE & DEATH OF OLIVER QUEEN TP (DC) > 10. THE BLACK MONDAY MURDERS VOLUME 1: ALL HAIL GOD MAMMON TP (MR) (IMA)
>(BALTIMORE, MD) — (February 17, 2017) —Roberto da Costa and A.I.M. form a new Avengers team and battle the Secret Empire in Al Ewing, Paco Medina, Juan Vlasco, and Jesus Aburtov's U.S.Avengers #1 from Marvel Comics, January's best-selling comic book according to information provided by Diamond Comic Distributors, the world's largest distributor of comics, graphic novels, and pop culture merchandise.
>Marvel Comics was January’s top publisher with a 37.09% dollar share and a 42.62% unit share. DC Entertainment was the month's number two publisher with a 28.93% dollar share and a 31.33% unit share. At number three was Image Comics with a 9.82% dollar share and a 9.36% unit share. IDW Publishing was fourth with a 5.25% dollar share and a 3.45% unit share, followed by Dark Horse Comics with a 4.04% dollar share and a 2.91% unit share.
>Among the premier publishers, IDW Publishing's top book was Batman/TMNT Adventures #3, a co-publication with DC Entertainment, at #99. Finally, Dark Horse Comics' Serenity: No Power in the 'Verse #4, based on Joss Whedon's film Serenity, was their top book of the month at #133.
Why are marvel overshipping shit when they are already killing DC with the dollar share?
Jaxon Roberts
Are we getting top 100 today or tomorrow.
Samuel Evans
>> 2. BATMAN #14 (DC) >> 3. BATMAN #15 (DC) >> 4. JUSTICE LEAGUE/POWER RANGERS #1 (DC) >> 6. ALL-STAR BATMAN #6 (DC) >> 7. JUSTICE LEAGUE VS. SUICIDE SQUAD #3 (DC) >> 10. JUSTICE LEAGUE #12 (DC) All is well.
Ethan Ramirez
Oops, forgot > 1. BATMAN VOLUME 1: I AM GOTHAM TP (DC) > 3. THE FLASH VOL. 1: LIGHTNING STRIKES TWICE TP (DC) > 4. SUPERMAN VOL. 1: SON OF SUPERMAN TP (DC) > 6. JUSTICE LEAGUE VOL. 1: THE EXTINCTION MACHINE TP (DC) > 9. GREEN ARROW VOL. 1: THE LIFE & DEATH OF OLIVER QUEEN TP (DC)
Daniel Price
I think ASB to JL are selling 80-70k.
The industry is really in sad state.
Don't know. I think tomorrow?
William Jackson
It's a sales tactic. Take up shelf space and win over LCS owners.
Oliver Jenkins
So how low do we think Cyborg, New Super Man and Blue Beetle are going to go this time?
December Numbers: >Cyborg #6 - 21,287 >Cyborg #7 - 19,788 >Blue Beetle #6 - 20,811 >New Super Man #6 - 21,000
Christopher Rodriguez
>win over
Gabriel Turner
>win over LCS owners Weren't they pissed off about the overshipping, though?
Sebastian Carter
Marvel is generating almost 25% more revenue than DC so they must be winning someone over.
Kayden White
I thought Superwoman is doing worse than Blue Beetle?
Hudson Morgan
Not really, these aren't the full number sold but ordered.
Minority characters still don't sell.
Hudson Perez
They're pissed off about the higher than expected Rebirth return rate and taking a $1 hit on every Rebirth title. I hardly doubt any LCS is pissed about free product.
Liam Clark
32 then 56 then 93 then relaunch.
Thomas Parker
It's about 4,000 copies ahead of Blue Beetle. >Superwoman #5 - 24,761
I messed up the issue number for Blue Beetle. >Blue Beetle #4 - 20,811
Aiden Young
Based lana lang
Blake Evans
They are? Because I just read a report about Rebirth return from newsrama and the retailers were actually thanking DC for their policy.
Levi Ortiz
Spencer, pls.
Isn't "free". All the issues of "Gamora" that nobody buys don't disappear. It costs storage. They are always complaining about it.
Mason Adams
USAvengers is only as high as it is because of the fifty-fucking-four variant covers and overshipping. It'll drop like a fucking rock when numbers for #2 come in.
Oliver King
They file overshipped items as sales.
Cameron Hernandez
>fifty-fucking-four variant covers Say what now?
Henry Cruz
>cost storage
Gee, I guess I'll just offer to take all the free product off my LCS' hands then. You're an idiot and any retailers are idiots if they complain about free product when they can just give the comics away.
Kevin Young
Each state got its own variant.
Kayden Foster
He's just shilling for Marvel. Ignore him. >any retailers are idiots if they complain about free product when they can just give the comics away See?
John James
BUT IT DOESN'T AFFECT MARKET SHARE
Cameron Lopez
Here, have forty tons of fertilizer for free. It will only cost storage.
Are you a child who doesn't understand all the costs involved or just a dumbass Marvelfag?
Connor Baker
For the unit share, not the dollar share.
Thomas Reyes
>they can just give the comics away I'm pretty I read somewhere that they actually tried that and no one agreed to take them.
>> 4. SUPERMAN VOL. 1: SON OF SUPERMAN TP (DC) >> 9. GREEN ARROW VOL. 1: THE LIFE & DEATH OF OLIVER QUEEN TP (DC)
Jason Sanders
They refuse to take them even for free? Kek.
Nathaniel Harris
It is also bad for business, akin to a restaurant giving food for free.
The best option is burn everything.
Jace Lewis
Those issues aren't free, they have to pay for the shipping.
Luis Cox
>The best option is burn everything.
The best option is to donate them to a charity. Some orphanage or children's hospital will gladly take them.
Zachary Thomas
>giving such bad books to children FBI, get a load of this guy.
Justin Cook
Nah they leave them in back.
Or chop them up.
Brayden Perez
One variant "Avenger of [state]" cover for each of the 50 states, plus DC, Puerto Rico, Canada, and the UK.
Asher Morgan
The UK one is exclusive to only one retailer (Forbidden Planet) though.
Brayden Clark
They deserve better than Marvel awful books, user.
Cooper Jenkins
>Why are marvel overshipping shit when they are already killing DC with the dollar share? Well, when the average prices of your comics are $1 to $2 over (basically 20%-25% higher) than the competition and you release more books, it's easier to top the dollar share.
Grayson Williams
How long do LCS typically hang on to unsold merch that they know will probably never sell? I can't imagine there are boxes of dusty, yellowing, unsold Mosaic #1s just taking up room in the back for years and years.
Aaron Sanchez
>Marvel 37.09% 42.62% >DC 28.93% 31.33%
DC GETTING DOMINATED
Kevin Carter
That Trump Inauguration really helped that book
Hunter Myers
They just move them in the backroom where they got all those nerds playing card games. Every time I sit down to play MtG, I see a Mosaic #1.
Dylan Bennett
It is exactly what happens, hence the "storage cost".
rita 8900
Gavin Anderson
>DC GETTING DOMINATED By the power of overshipping, fucktons of variants, and incentive discounts to retailers.
Xavier Lewis
>Clone Conspiracy tie-in outselling Clone Conspiracy I guess Amazing is currently getting propped up by people who don't want a gap in their collections.
Logan Gray
NO, BY THE POWER OF BETTER CHARACTERS, WRITERS, AND ARTISTS.
Isaac Hughes
...
Julian Price
Go Dark Horse!!!
Dominic Powell
>caps and everything
Christopher Murphy
EXCELSIOR!
Aaron Cook
Currently bitching at Leifeld on twitter for trying to act like "Marvel dominance" still exists. Literally tried telling me Now! wasn't line-wide despite non-rebooted books getting "#1s".
I don't usually tweet at people over this shit but I'm not going to let a god awful artist who road the business coattails of Jim Lee tell me that Marvel is dominating. Or act like he himself knows anything about business. Fuck off.
Christopher Sullivan
Nigga we know that's bullshit and you better believe it.
Outside U.S.A.vengers (thanks to Ewing), most of the books in the Top 50 suck, like, a literal lot.
And the books that are good aren't boought due to people getting alienated with how bad Marvel currently is.
Benjamin Nguyen
Screenshots pls?
Ryder Gonzalez
DC is gonna own the trade market over the next year.
Adam Cox
>Release 10% more books. >Price books around 25% higher more on average. >Ship tons of free books to keep up appearances. So dominant.
Austin Cooper
> 4. JUSTICE LEAGUE/POWER RANGERS #1 (DC)
N I C E
Jack Russell
>Leifeld I thought he was too good for the Big Bad Two?
Jaxson Richardson
Mine isn't pissed, per se, but they aren't happy about it either. They still have to find the shelf space for all of the extra stock they didn't order, which isn't being moved. Most of the overshipping is shelfwarming hard. Plus, they had to still pay for the cost to ship it and they can't even give it away.
My LCS gets swarmed by casuals, kids and parents on FCBD, so I won't be surprised to see them being given away en masse then.
Adrian Clark
>casuals, kids and parents Three kinds of audience that Marvel will lose.
Tyler Wood
Since the Deadpool movie was a success, he's been increasing his volume and really vocally supporting Marvel. Since you know, casuals believe that he's a genius for making Deadpool and it wasn't at all other people that made the character actually good. Just like his other creations.
Dylan Kelly
I won't be posting my twitter on here lol. But it's up there. here's a few that pissed me off enough to call him out.
So I thought
Adam Miller
>>Marvel Comics was January’s top publisher with a 37.09% dollar share and a 42.62% unit share. DC Entertainment was the month's number two publisher with a 28.93% dollar share and a 31.33% unit share.
wowowow lookee them Rebirthbux
Adam Wood
what was your excuse last month
what will it be next month
Grayson Rivera
The 90s were a mistake.
Chase Turner
>1. U.S.AVENGERS #1 (MAR) SUCK IT DC
Thomas Wright
>> 1. U.S.AVENGERS #1 (MAR) holy shit, I didn't think that Ewing would ever be number 1, even with variant gimicks
Justin Powell
Finn or DanS is that you?
Ethan White
>> 1. U.S.AVENGERS #1 (MAR) >> 2. BATMAN #14 (DC) >> 3. BATMAN #15 (DC) And it only needed 54 incentive variants to beat two standard Batman issues. DC BTFO. Based Marvel.
Andrew Price
basically the two sides are arguing because one side is bad at stats
the fact is nobody's forcing LCS owners to buy titles, so if they didn't want them, they wouldn't order them
Rebirth started out with lots of free copies - returnable books that were ordered in huge numbers, causing a temporary spike in DC's sales (because all figures ultimately come from Diamond, who only count books shipped, not books returned) in order to qualify initially for rarer variants and, as a secondary thing, for second, third etc printing variants, which all have a higher value to the collector's market; however, no returns system would be able to distinguish between variants and standard covers because they're basically (and I think legally) the same product, so when DC got wise to it they stopped the return policy (and said that was always the intention), so their share dropped accordingly because there weren't actually hundreds of thousands of new readers
with Marvel's overshipping thing, it's something we've heard about that doesn't seem to be included in the Diamond figures, because Marvel's unit/dollar share hasn't spiked; so either Diamond overhauled their entire order system (unlikely, at least since late last year) or it's happening but not being included (ie they are legitimately free and don't need to be returned) or it's not happening, at least on the scale Rebirth flooded stores with
the anons bitching about fertilizer down there are, most likely, idiots: Marvel (and DC) ships about 80 titles a month, so even just adding 10% to that as "free" would be a significant cost to them; there's no reason they'd do it, especially if they knew it wouldn't show up in the Diamond shipping figures, which begs the question of who's shipping all these Marvel titles to these stores if it's not Diamond
it's possible that stores who know how much they typically overorder by are pranking DC-heavy stores by sending them extra copies because they think it's funny
Aiden Bell
tl;dr
>54 incentive variants They can thank DC for having that idea in New52 JL of America.
Xavier Carter
Wasn't this the month that Marvel decided to give a free 10% on everything to pad their numbers?
>Checks
Yep, this was the month.
>10% EXTRA FOR FREE ON MARVEL UNIVERSE JANUARY SHIPPING TITLES! >As a thank you to Retailers, Marvel will be sending an additional 10% of FREE copies for all of January shipping Marvel Universe titles! For all orders made by FOC, Marvel will be sending 10% extra at no cost to Retailers!.
>Earlier this week, MTV announced that JUSTICE LEAGUE OF AMERICA #1 will have 52 variant covers. >Note to retailers: There is no minimum purchase needed to order these variants and you will be able to order whichever covers you like.
>As a thank you to Retailers, Marvel will be sending an additional 10% of FREE copies for all of January shipping Marvel Universe titles! Timeo Danaos et dona ferentes.
>Marvel plagiarizes DC and fails Same old, same old.
Kevin Walker
Weird, he was praising rebirth when it first came out.
Angel Wood
>with Marvel's overshipping thing, it's something we've heard about that doesn't seem to be included in the Diamond figures, because Marvel's unit/dollar share hasn't spiked; so either Diamond overhauled their entire order system (unlikely, at least since late last year) or it's happening but not being included (ie they are legitimately free and don't need to be returned) or it's not happening, at least on the scale Rebirth flooded stores with You're wrong.
IvX sold more than DK3, the two costed exactly the same, but DK3 was more profitable. Fucking how?
Simply: DK3 sold more, at least to costumers. IvX numbers were artificially bigger through overshipping.
"W-why would Marvel do it, it would cost them money, they wouldn't do it!"
Marvel itself fucking announces it, user. I don't know what are you trying to accomplish.
Isaiah Martin
>> 1. U.S.AVENGERS #1 (MAR) Awesome.
Jayden Lewis
2nd issue drop will be hard because it won't have the 50 states + territories variant gimmick.
Brody Adams
Our savuor of Marvel, based Ewing beats Batman
i know,varients and overshipping. But Ewing is the only good Marvel writer
Connor Jones
>10. THE BLACK MONDAY MURDERS VOLUME 1: ALL HAIL GOD MAMMON TP (MR) (IMA)
Wow.didn't expect that. Good book though
Justin Roberts
rob is a cunt.
John Richardson
For way longer than that. Court of Owls and New 52 Flash vol 1 continue to sell gangbusters half a decade later. Even shit tier New 52 Suicide Squad.
Gabriel Cox
50 states and territories and an announced 10% overship on January titles. Personally, I can't wait. The way Marvel's been doing things right now - where they pull out every sales gimmick imaginable to pump one title up to the top or near it like IvX, Champions, etc. - is hilarious. The drop watch is exciting.
Sebastian Brooks
Marvel buys his own comics---And give them away..I bet trump is paid it.
Jason Brown
They already got what they wanted: the holophotes.
"USAvengers sells 350,000" will be a headline.
"USAvengers #2 sells 30,000" will not be a headline.
The same happened with Rocket Raccoon and Champions.
Jason Thompson
Again, in English?
Dominic Ortiz
>dude Marvel just overshipped last time DC will definitely beat them next month stay tuned for the next episode of Sup Forums in denial
Adrian Taylor
> I like company wars Go outside and play with the other kids, maybe they'll beat some sense into you
