>One night, Penguin caught a man cheating at cards and tortured him in front of the crowd. The man's friend retaliated by smashing a glass bottle apart and running the bottom deep into Cobblepot's left eye, which blinded him and giving him the appearance of always wearing a monocle. Penguin, having had his assailant blinded and thrown onto the Gotham Freeway at rush hour, sought the finest doctors to remove the glass, only to be told that the attempts to remove it would potentially kill him. Cobblepot eventually became content with it, and believed that it gave him a more "unique" look.
Because they're the closest thing to a Batman simulator that exists and it's fun to stealthily take out thugs and glide around the city
Why do people care about the fiction in video games again?
Ryan Adams
Because of this
Cooper Roberts
I thought it was ok for Arkham City where all the criminals are forced into what is basically a slum so it's possible another thug could have done that to him and the lack of proper medical care meant he couldn't get it removed while in Arkham City. Making it permanent is retarded though, I'm pretty sure he'd die from infection before long and Penguin should have enough money to have it removed by a top notch doctor.
Isaac Edwards
that first game was amazing and a rythm-esque fighting system was a great way to make Batman fighting a room full of thugs seem impactful and schematic without require a huge skill investment from the player the games after that was severely diminishing returns
Ethan Smith
>working class English accent >not being working class is integral to the character >being a native Gothamite and not English is integral to the character
Lucas Collins
Its not a bad idea if you just go "he liked the way it looked so he had them sterilize it" instead of the "they couldn't remove it" part.
Like an insane Batman villain.
Asher Miller
it's a small albeit completely ignored part of that mythos, sure those games are pandering but this is the least of its offenses.
Jose Turner
Wouldnt sweat and shed skin cells build up inside that bottle over his eye and start rotting?
Nathaniel Cox
wouldn't it be possible to at least slice the visible part of it off so he just has it in his brain and not a fugly face?
Samuel Rodriguez
If you need a noprize he's an idiot who thinks all British accents are fancy and he affects the toughest one he heard in a Guy Ritchie movie.
Adrian Clark
>and thrown onto the Gotham Freeway at rush hour, ...so, when it's slow and full of traffic?
James Morris
...so, if Batman punched it, it would shatter?
Mason James
The game's lore files already give an explanation. He was sent to boarding school, but everyone there hated him, so he hung out with the chavs and picked up their accent.
Christian Kelly
That's slack as fuck.
Levi Davis
>Slack
Explain? Like not why it's slack, but what slack is.
Angel Nguyen
Sorry, Aussie colloquialism. "slack" is "lazy".
Gavin Edwards
I Jamaica "slack" is like being dirty or raunchy
Asher Morgan
He grew to like it over time.
Nicholas Moore
Huh, the more you know.
Ryan Kelly
Is it fair to call the Arkham series the beginning of the end for Harley? That was the beginning of the juggalo Harley right?
Evan Gutierrez
Yeah, it's fair to say that. Arkham-Harley startedit then N52 followed trend
Hudson Nelson
Pretty much, she would never have a conventional costume again
Kevin Martin
Why doesn't he get it surgically removed? One good punch to the left side of his face could be fatal with that bottle lodged in like that.
Christian Phillips
>Arleen Sorkin will never voice Harley again...
Why live Sup Forums?
Joseph Williams
Yeah, It's not like Arkham Penguin is the best equipped gang in the game... wait he was. He could have gone to the clinic and have it removed or smuggle in a top notch surgeon .
Connor Hughes
>the lack of proper medical care
Assuming the shock and massive blood loss didn't kill him and he somehow survived with his brain intact and functional enough, he'd still die of infection within two weeks.
>when I was a boy, my parents were murdered in front of me by a low-life thug after doing something incredibly stupid >I vowed that day to become a crimefighter and beat up petty thugs by the dozen night after night while dressed in a suit I find oddly sensual to wear and surrounding myself with people who also like to wear animal-themed masks and leather, just like those parties papa used to throw >from that day forward I dedicated my life to learning to mash A relentlessly, but I never put many skill points into anything until much later, because apparently you learn better if you learn everything in a single night of beating down waves of nearly-identical thugs with limited fighting skills
they should just make the next one a Wayne Manor tower defense with pay to win options
Wouldn't be an option.
Christian Stewart
kek
Austin Evans
>diminishing returns dont use terms like these if you dont know what they mean
Leo Martin
That one vid of her fucking horses was only thing decent to come out of that game.
Jason Bell
>End of the Arkham Knight reveal trailer >"Preorder to get the Red Hood DLC" >We're still supposed to wonder who Arkham Knight is
Asher Gonzalez
>Is it fair to call the Arkham series the beginning of the end for Harley?
that's how people call when a character becomes popular and the hipster autismo of some people can't handle it, right?
Blake Martinez
>People can get bullets and massive fucking pipes pulled out of their heads and easily survive if the healthcare is decent enough enough, and have been able to do so for quite a long time >Pulling some shards of glass out of a guys eye socket could kill him, even with the "finest doctors" can't pull it off
Xavier Wilson
>all those threads saying that Rocksteady couldn't be that stupid
Lucas Gray
I'm now going to refer to the Akham iteration of Penguin as "Bulletbeak Pengy".
Aiden Gonzalez
More importantly, how did it get stuck in his eye with the bottom sticking out? Did the guy try to stab him with the neck-end first?
Asher Williams
>its our own original character. >its a character everyone has heard of. I'm still salty
James Miller
Funny how that's literally the bottom of the bottle in his eye How does that work? The entire fucking bottle is inside his head? Doesn't make sense since we can see his eye.
Thomas Roberts
Because the gameplay, atmosphere and style is 10/10 despite the writing being lame.
Ayden Jenkins
He broke the bottle like your pic, but then he took the bottom that everyone forgets about and shoved THAT into penguin's eye
Asher Cruz
But that's just silly and would probably slice the shit out of your hand
Cameron James
Because they don't know any better. Only Asylum is decent- the rest are absolute shit.
Austin Baker
they are the perfect amalgamation of all things batman nothing has done it better
Dominic Adams
That's even dumber. I love the Arkham series but the writing was always shit, except for Origins which ironically everyone hates for fair reasons.
Julian Brooks
A bit of an exaggeration.
Dylan Stewart
it makes more sense than shoving an entire beer bottle through someone's head like thinks
Cameron Russell
Best Riddler though
Caleb Scott
You mean worst.
Jayden Richardson
Not even his best arkham design, go away with that tropical mad scientist shit
Logan Martinez
>Goes full Saw on City, with very little actual riddles/puzzles to save people >Becomes Fast and Furious by Knight Nah, maybe if they were more puzzle centric I'd agree but most of the time it's just platforming and for Knight, driving missions.
Nathaniel Barnes
Why is it always The Penguin that gets the gritty/edgy backstories nowadays? If it's not stuff like this, it's stuff like that one story about him driving some chef to suicide. Is a fat, gauche villain really so unappealing nowadays? Or are people still just cribbing from Burton's Penguin?
Chase Hill
Yeah, but apparently because they couldn't remove it.
Like saying a character who wears orange only did so because the store didn't have yellow.
>Not even his best arkham design, go away with that tropical mad scientist shit It's perfect for a spin-off where he goes legit, becomes a P.I. and solves mysteries in Oahu, though.
Caleb Perry
I think it's when they diluted her and ruined the whole "costume sex appeal" aspect..
Lincoln Hughes
Who the hell holds a bottle from this end?
Alexander James
You can literally map his mental deterioration through the four games. He starts out suave and cocksure, with a big, elaborate plan. Over the next two games he just gets more and more petty, focusing solely on proving he's smarter than Batman with a trivial treasure hunt. By Knight, he's been beaten and humiliated so thoroughly that he's literally living in the sewers, trying to prove that driving fast somehow makes him smarter than Batman. He's a broken man, and it's funny as hell to see him come apart. His half-assed costume is a perfect visual metaphor (and I just love that shirt) Honestly, he might have the most complete character arc out of anyone in these games.
Logan Martin
Huh, yeah looking at it like that it does sound pretty neat.
But my complaint is that his missions still tended to be very weak, especially in Knight where you get real tired of the Batmobile real fast.
Dylan Smith
i liked that he got more unhinged as the games went on
Aiden Peterson
got a link?
Luke Butler
I think it's because most people perceive Penguin as one of Batman's sillier rogues, so they try to make him threatening and edgy.
Jason Torres
user, the bottle to the eye thing happened well before Arkham City. It literally says in the OP he sought the finest doctors to fix it.
Brody Stewart
>Aussie ReEEEEEE
Levi Garcia
By the end of the Catwoman's Revenge DLC he's a completely broken man.
Anthony Torres
it would be extremely painful
Grayson Russell
Yeah. I watched my roommate have to "solve" all 2 hundred and some "riddles" that seemed to be mostly breaking certain objects and then finding trophies. He was a broken man by the end.
I'll give you that the Batmobile was overused. But if you know what you're doing those segments at least go by quickly. But the tedium of the collecting can sort of be excused. The Riddler is never really shown as anything more than an annoyance to anyone, and why is that? Because the best he can come up with is a treasure hunt. Making sure his sidequest annoys both you and Batman is a neat way to get you angry with a character and thus, more motivated to beat him. Might have been unintentional, but it's a fun way to look at it. Plus it's rewarding to actually complete it and prove your "smarts"
Landon Hall
Or maybe Rocksteady just got worse at making games.
Nathan Williams
Perfect depiction of the riddler then?
Christian Cook
Remember when this used to be the slutty looking Harley? It's so modest compared to anything now.
Matthew Thomas
>they should just make the next one a Wayne Manor tower defense Would play that >with pay to win options Wouldn't pay that
Daniel Hall
Maybe you're overthinking it And coming up with a better character arc than Rocksteady did
Adrian Ross
Even before the game's release, there was a huge influx of Ledger Joker fangirls going to cons with their own homemade Harley costumes that had a similar look. It would have probably happened with or without the Arkham games coincidentally having a Harley that looked the same as every single cosplayer.
Christian Martinez
While it might be a pretty good depiction of the Riddler, it's fucking godawful to play through.
Camden Thomas
>I vowed that day to become a crimefighter and beat up petty thugs by the dozen night after night while dressed in a suit I find oddly sensual to wear If only Bruce had caught his father wearing his mother's lingerie and became frightened, instead of bats
Owen Morgan
>"Yes, father! I shall become mom!"
Anthony Long
>He doesn't know about Womanman
Adam Parker
>And thus was the birth of...
Mason Nguyen
Why wouldent batmans biggest fear be guns?
Why didnt he become gunman?
Nathan Evans
seems fair
Asher Nelson
I complete fine giving Cobblepot the cockney accent, but the glass in his skull is too much. You dont really have to update the monocle, because Oswald is supposed to be a parody of high class society and old money. If you really need to tweak it, just give him a pair of glasses with a chain like the ones Teddy Roosevelt used to wear
Lucas Scott
That happened in one Elseworlds.
David Cook
>Popularized her slutty outfits >Popularized Tara Strong's complete misinterpretation of her voice and made it the new norm >Popularized her being stupid without substance >Probably directly influenced aspects of DCEU ...Yes.
Ryder Brown
That was Thomas, not Bruce, though.
Christian Torres
Really? I thought Paladin was still Bruce.
Colton Parker
is Paladin the one that baisically just looks and acts like The Shadow?
Josiah Garcia
Yeah. But with a mask instead of a bandanna.
James White
Oh so thats what it is. I thought he was wearing a large diamond but now I see the imprints that you have on the bottom glass bottles. That's actually a really neat design despite the goofy backstory for it.
Jace Jenkins
I really like Arkham Knight's Manbat but how they handled the whole Jason Todd deal was just awful
Should've just said there were only two Robins and went for the Beyond ending
Hunter Gutierrez
This is exactly what I thought too when I read that
Literally the safest possible situation to be on the road
Cooper Hughes
Was this the first major time Harley wasn't wearing her classic outfit? Now dyed pigtails is her go-to.
>tfw I had to scroll down three times on Google to find a picture of classic Harl
Anthony White
Yeap. It was the first time the Harley went out of her classic costume.
Bentley Ramirez
Unless you count live action Birds of Prey Harley.
Hudson Martin
They held the bottle by the fucking bottom?
Charles Mitchell
Does anyone?. I don't think anyone remembers that. It's like the shameful past that nobody wants to bring up