I hadn't seen X2 since I was a kid, so I decided to watch it again just for the sheer novelty of Brian Cox as Stryker. And that ending is goddamned garbage. "Yes, let's just appear in the President's office and psychically freeze everyone in the room except for him and make storm clouds appear outside and basically just scare the fucking bejeezus out of him. "That'll definitely help our cause. That won't make us look like the bad guy or anything. Oh, and also, let's NOT explain to the President of the United States that the Mutant in the back of the room only tried to kill you because he was under chemical mind-control. Let's not explain that to him at all."
If anyone saw that scene without any context, the X-Men would look like supervillains. Shit, even with context, it looks sketchy as all hell.
Joshua Ward
The President there was meant to be based on Bush.
So giving him a small folder and then scaring the shit out of him was appropriate.
Cameron Campbell
They literally gave him a file detailing Stryker's crimes, including the brainwashing.
Zachary Ward
Is that supposed to offset the fact that a bunch of superpowered weirdos in leather, one of whom tried to assassinate him, just showed up in his office and did all that shit and told him they were here to stay
Isaiah Bell
Also, it's Washington DC. Unless Xavier is capable of freezing everyone within sight of the White House, I'm sure someone saw a bunch of people in leather show up in a plane and massive storm clouds appear in the sky.
Alexander Reed
It's called hedging your fucking bets.
If he's sensible enough to actually read the dossier, then everything will be fine.
BUT on the off-chance he goes "I WAS ELECTED TO LEAD, NOT TO READ!", you might wanna scare the shit out of him just so he realizes how utterly fucked he'd be if he DID decide to declare open season on muties.
Joshua Gonzalez
he's one of the most powerful telepaths in the world.
he's the reason Magneto wears the bucket
Isaac Gray
"Yeah so a bunch of weird dark clouds just spontaneously materialized outta thin air around specifically the White House on a totally sunny day and no one inside the White House remembers it" "Not suspicious at all"
Josiah Kelly
This movie's been out for ages, user, you don't have to use spoliers
Jayden Kelly
I actually thought about that the other day. In the end I figured Xavier probably just psychically projected a message into the President's head, but I forgot about the folder they drop on his desk.
Cooper King
I feel like that on its own would be a serious powderkeg. If a bunch of Muties showed up and spooked the dick out of you, you'd probably be way more open to ideas when the next guy comes along and says "yo my nig i got ur solution to the Mutant Problem rite here"
I mean that's basically what happened at the beginning of the movie, anyway.
Nathaniel Hill
>>Mutants want to be seen as people, not weapons. >>Leader is a guy who goes on rampages and kills effortlessly
Explain
Mason Foster
I didn't want to assume.
Duly noted
Brody Diaz
GOD AND MAN, NOT GOD AND MUTIE
Tyler Allen
What the fuck happened after X2 it went to shit with X3 and even deeper in the shit with Origins. It was salvaged with First Class and then went to shit with the next two. Will Logan be good?
Brandon Jenkins
Fox likes to rape the X-Men
Nathan Foster
I'll concede the point. X2 is not as coherently great as everyone thinks it is.
On the other hand, there are a number of individual scenes in it that are sublime.
Nathaniel Martin
That's fair.
As much as I hate Magneto that bit was so cash.
Matthew Green
You got to admit FOX has yet to top the Nightcrawler White House scene
Christian Adams
what you have hit on is a manifestation of the flaw of the mutant "problem". we are, as readers, to regard them as a stand in for well mostly homosexuals, but in universe they are a deadly dangerous threat. so while the story gives us the feel good moral acceptance message with some cool scenes wrapped around it, in universe we have a group spouting moral platitudes and expecting it to change the world while ignoring legitimate fears/concerns/issues.
Christopher Scott
I liked Apocalypse's Quicksilver scene where he saves everyone in the mansion That was pretty great
Ryan Martinez
But its basically a rehash of Quicksilvers other scene in DOFP
Daniel Gray
It's really hard for me to sympathize with a Mutant for being a Mutant, unless they're a kid or something. For this very reason.
Jonathan Gray
It was still goddamned great.
Justin Clark
it really bothers me, you get called a bigot when you point out that massive issues arise from superpowers. sounds kind of familiar.
Eli Flores
Minorities =/= people with superpowers
Logan Carter
I recall in the first movie during a press conference where Jean was basically saying it was ok not to monitor mutants or be registered. Which I get it, they never asked to be mutants and getting put on a list is the first step towards genocide and all that, but the fact remains that these people have extraordinary, often dangerous abilities and have zero regulations put on them.
Carter Sanders
Blink's Fastball Special with Colossus was pretty dope
Camden Wright
Is that ever seriously addressed? Like, ever? Comics, movies, television- anything?
Colton Garcia
what about medical needs? a latex allergy is important but imagine being an EMT trying to treat Rogue uninformed. more along the lines of empty virtue signaling compared to addressing real complications.
John Roberts
The debate over the Mutant Registration Act has been a thing in the comics for decades.
Ayden Anderson
very straw man, and always with the shadow of DOFP. i have never read one that gives any kind of reasonable pro argument.
Isaiah Mitchell
Aight, so let me see if I got this straight, starting with: >First Class >Days of Future Past (Bad End Timeline) >Wolverine: Origins >X1, X2, X3 >The Wolverine >Days of Future Past (Good End Timeline, erases X2 and X3, maybe The Wolverine?) >Apocalypse >Logan
Close?
Sebastian Ramirez
The problem is that both sides have fair arguments and its a lose/lose scenario. On one hand not registering mutants gives some, not all, the idea that they can get away with shit from a superiority complex while on the other hand cataloging every mutant is essentially a shopping list for government projects/weapon programs.
Anthony Ross
the x men though never address the issues brought up.
Nicholas Johnson
They do, but 9/10 the other side is depicted as bigots or mad scientists
Gavin Ward
But if it was glorious Obama, they just woulda had a nice chat, right?
I hate Hollywood libtards
Caleb Martinez
What?
First Class - Origins Wolverine - X1 - X2 - X3 - The Wolverine - DOFP bad end
Then DOFP changes the timeline so
First Class - Apocalypse - DOFP good end - Logan
Thomas Taylor
Right, but doesn't Origins still happen
Adrian Flores
>What the fuck happened after X2 it went to shit with X3 and even deeper in the shit with Origins.
No Singer.
Grayson Bailey
Forgot to put in DOFP itself
First Class - DOFP - Origins Wolverine - X1 - X2 - X3 - The Wolverine - DOFP bad end First Class - DOFP - Apocalypse - DOFP good end - Logan
Apocalypse must have overwritten Origins because of the Weapon X scene.
Isaiah Collins
Not quite.
Time line 1: First Class, Origins, X1-3, The Wolverine, DOFP (future scenes).
Time line 2: DOFP (past scenes), Apocalypse, DOFP Good end, Logan.
Hunter Richardson
No, in DOFP Mystique ends up with Logan, he never follows the same path. How he ends up at Department H is completely different, but fate.
William White
This makes me very sad.
Carson Harris
There was one issue of Ultimate X-men about a kid whose mutant power made everyone in general vicinity explode, whether he wanted them to or not. The X-men ended up quietly assassinating the kid so that the media didn't catch wind of him, because they knew it would single-handedly destroy every pro-mutant argument they were campaigning for.