I worked on Justice League, although my job was small (worked on the set design for a few scenes) and yes I can confirm that it was this fucktard who basically took everything people like about DC and turned it into a shitty quipfest. He was also responsible for taking some really cool scenes out, which some of my buddies worked hard on. One of those is Batman pretty much setting up more characters like Supergirl and Lantern etc, you even got to see small hints of Shazam. Another scene he took out was the cool Flash scene with the glass that you see in the trailer.
Not to mention that this fat little manlet is an asshole to work with and ignored it when people pointed out VERY OBVIOUS flaws such as Aquaman having different contacts and tattoos, Ezra's hair being different lengths throughout the film and of course you guys know, Bens face being puffier.
I can answer a few questions but yes fuck this faggot and I hope you guys don't place too much blame on Zack. He definitely isn't perfect but WB and Joss fucked him over on this one.
I want this to do well because I love the stories of MoS and BvS and was very excited for the direction the storyline was going but gdi, Suicide Squad and now this makes me fear for the future. I'm still going to see it tomorrow with the wife and kids but I fear the quips and am scared for how forced they'll seem.
Kevin Martin
Did ANYTHING of Snyder survive the purge?
Owen Foster
>wife and kids
Robert Wood
> basically took everything people like about DC Can't have taken him long
Thomas Harris
What's wrong with his face?
Jaxon Scott
Snyder's action scenes were left in there, but a lot of his shit was taken out thanks to WB CEO wanted the movie to be light hearted and under 2 hours.
You can say that Snyder was fucked over on BvS but it doesn't even come close to how badly he was fucked over with JL. Zack has had a really, really awful year.
Daniel Long
Yup, I got 3 big boys that love superheroes, probably cos I read them comics and showed them cartoons I saw as a boy.
William Torres
Assuming you're not bullshitting about working on the film, chances of an extended cut for the bluray?
Sound like this movie (and Snyder) really deserves one, even more than BvS.
William Foster
>took everything people like about DC
But Batman vs Superman: Dawn of Justice was fucking retarded and Man of Steel was overwrought
Nathaniel Taylor
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Michael Smith
Given the sad circumstances surrounding Zack's departure I'd have thought Joss would have been respectful and worked on treaking the film within Zack's vision.
A director slapping his style onto another director's film never ends well yet Joss went ahead anyhow.
The change of filters and reshooting scenes that were fine as they were seems baffling.
Brandon Wilson
>I'd have thought Joss would have been respectful
LOL
Whedon respects 1 person: Whedon.
Jose Martinez
It'll get more of a Suicide Squad extended cut than a BvS Ultimate Edition
Wyatt Hill
>Zack has had a really, really awful year. That's putting it lightly. Besides his daughter's suicide I honestly think he would've left anyway because he was fed up with WB (or specifically Kevin Tsujihara's) shit.
I mean, they made him shoot his movie TWICE, interfered throughout the production (after the script had already been signed off on), then had the gall to chop it down to 2 hours because of pure greed.
The man deserves a medal for not taking them to court over this madness.
Jace Rivera
Give me examples of scenes being cut.
Jonathan Thompson
the filters would be simply time they didn't have time to do Zacks fucking with the colour pallet the reshooting scenes was for more quips
Ian Ross
Sup Forums is a roleplayer board now?
please no.
Nathan Bell
>reshoot his movie twice isn't whedon the one doing that? >The man deserves a medal for not taking them to court over this madness. He doesn't have final cut so he doesn't have a leg to stand on
Anthony Butler
It would've been capeshit regardless of that faggot.
Charles Bailey
>everything people like about DC >people >like >DC
Indians aren't people, Pajeet.
Cooper Hall
An extra half hour would go a long way towards smoothing out those major flaws (characters not having enough room to breathe) already mentioned in the reviews.
Their CEO is an idiot. Did he learn nothing from BVS' theatrical cut?
Zachary Rogers
>This whole thread Embarassing
Isaac Wilson
>someone missed the adam sandler larp in the week keep up lad, the toilet's busy flushing
John Thompson
>hiring a direct competitor to improve your film
Jaxon Roberts
It's more than likely those scenes are gone and dead, like the most we'll get in an extended cut is some more quipping scenes
Eli Morris
i was probably at work senpai
Samuel King
I think he was venting the fact they got an actual woman to direct wonder woman and not his creepy "womb envy" ass. Reminder this was a Joss Whedon fansite. youtube.com/watch?v=hEJQqUN2buE
Colton Baker
Whedob was a hires gun brought in for one purpose-built finish the goddamn movie, throw in some of his shit because his shit sells, and bring it in at ~2 hrs. The whole project was fucked from the start due to executive meddling from WB and frankly too ambitious a scope for 1 movie.
Isaiah Jones
>if only it would have been 3.5 hours, it would have been good! >as if the cut time wasn't other characters, slow-mo action and lingering shots of jesus statues
Nicholas Harris
MODS
Dominic Barnes
why they use Whedon
Henry Rivera
>his shit sells
He's had 1 hit on his own. 1. He didn't even direct and only co-wrote it.
Avengers was literally impossible to fuck up. Still he managed to do so with AoU.
Jose Price
Executives are out of touch and superstitious. They don't care. They see that Whedons movies did twice Snyder's, they want that money. They don't care about the product, just that it sells
They're idiots is what I'm saying. Out of touch. Often right, but when they're wrong, they're really wrong
Evan Jackson
>3 big boys
is that a nice way of saying they're fat?
Jose Price
>isn't whedon the one doing that? Nope. It was a mandate by their idiot CEO.
>He doesn't have final cut While this is true, there are protections in place for directors that complete 100% of their principal photography (which Snyder did), and I would assume contractual obligations to an agreed script.
This isn't a Donner situation like Superman II or the new Han Solo movie, where the directors can be discredited without consequence.
Easton Turner
Dare to provide some kind of proof for your authentication? What's the guarantee you're not one of the regular LARPers on this board?
Owen Cooper
I don't believe you.
Luis Bennett
Do you know what was the original time length of Snyder JL, before Whedon steeped in?
Lincoln White
No one wants a 3.5 hour Justice League movie. But 2 hours for a team-up of this size is simply not enough time to establish both the plot and 2 new characters.
2.5 hours would've made the most sense.
Alexander Morgan
>everything people like about DC >muh dark >muh edge >muh instagram
good
Brandon Powell
It should not have had 2 new major characters to begin with.
Blake Nelson
What is up with Joss Whedon's teeth? Did you stare at them every time he opened his mouth? Is he literally the only millionaire alive who chooses to be scene in public like that?
Aaron Gonzalez
He uses them to draw attention from his thumb-esque fivehead.
Jeremiah Robinson
I'm not OP, but I work in the industry and had a conversation with one of the WB Execs about Justice League.
He said they had to get rid of Snyder, because obviously his stuff wasn't working. I pointed out that MOS and BvS were both flawed but great movies, especially the Ultimate Cut, and it's better to aim high and fall short than aim for the gutter like Marvel. He then got a bit nervous and couldn't really articulate a decent response except "well... Rotten Tomatoes... audiences expect fun...blah blah I'm a smelly film illiterate pleb that scummed my way into this position blah blah"
Exaggerated that last bit of course but that's the truth, WB is run by creatively bankrupt money men that are shamelessly running their films into the ground by having no faith in their directors and screeching "DO IT LIKE THAT, THE GOYIM LIKED THAT AND IT MADE MONEY LETS JUST COPY THAT"
You cunts won't believe me but it's 100% truth.
Josiah Cooper
>WB and Joss fucked him over on this one All evidence to the contrary and you provide nothing new but your empty opinions.
Eli Anderson
Thanks based user. You're the real MVP.
Mason Cook
>One of those is Batman pretty much setting up more characters like Supergirl and Lantern etc, you even got to see small hints of Shazam
This is not cool, it reads like you are trying to shove in more pointless cameos into a cinematic universe that simply does not work.
Joshua Thompson
>everything people like about DC literally what
David Russell
who gives a fuck about super hero movies.
what are, 12?
Jordan Brown
>Batman pretty much setting up more characters like Supergirl and Lantern etc What, did he find another powerpoint presentation on someone's laptop?
Aaron Kelly
WHATS WAS ZACKS ORIGINAL ENDING/STORY?
Charles Ward
Sup Forums's resident population is mentally stunted manchildren. What did you expect?
Noah Gonzalez
>not "big guys"
Jesus
Carter Martin
Superman gets literally crucified while Martha washes his feet
Wonder woman's slow-mo tits fight some bank robbers and the others are also there
Chase Kelly
If rumors are to be believed, Darkseid originally made his appearance. This would explain why Steppenwolf was so forgettable: he meant as the opening act for the main villain.
William Cox
deleted scenes not in film that were in trailers
Logan Martinez
>He likes literally my nephew's capeshit.
Angel Taylor
kek
Juan Scott
>It's Not Joss's Fault! Pt. 34
Levi Harris
>Whedob was a hires gun brought in for one purpose-built finish the goddamn movie because that worked so well with Alien4
Jordan Wood
> spearhead of the most successful franchise in history along with a half-dozen fan-favorite shows/films (Firefly et al)
vs
> director who has constantly battled middling success and terrible reviews for nearly every film he's ever made
Hmmm, who do I believe...
Eli Hill
I can't tell if Snyder is the new Whedon or Whedon is the new Snyder.
Literally everything they fuck up is the director/actor/studios fault. No matter how many times it happens.
I remember not too long ago it was AoU was all Marvel's fault.
Luis Garcia
>asking for scans of documentation >on 5chins
sure, user, give me a couple of mins
Hudson Lewis
>WB spent dozens of millions to shoot and cgi these fine looking scenes only to cut them and pouring more millions into reshooting half of the movie with crappy cgi
Why didnt one of the executives or producers read the script before they started shooting? Could've saved them some trouble.
Adam Morales
it's the japanese idol effect, it shows that you're not superficial and don't obsess about your appearance.
Parker Campbell
Why would they do that? Also are the red filter screenshots for real?
Kevin Jones
They did sign off on Terrio's script. But then BVS came out and the studio panicked and tried to rewrite the film when it was already halfway into production. And fucked themselves again in a sad attempt to add more quips.
Anthony Clark
being a paid internet shill isn't "working on Justice League"
Oliver Jones
I believe you, sempai.
Jacob Brown
They're trying to remove Snyder's influence from every scene possible.
Robert Hernandez
>WB is run by creatively bankrupt money men Isn't that like every other studio?
Jacob Cook
i tried to make a normal dude which required straightening the lower half and making his actual face about 1.5 times larger within his overall face so that's your main problems
Robert Cooper
Ok, maybe it won't be such a disappointment if I expect it to look like shit then.
Bentley Rogers
>MArvel/Disney capeshit is on a downward trend at the boxoffice. >Decides to copy this formula. What the fuck were they thinking. MArvel shit has been trending down since after GotG 1.
Luis Ramirez
>Batman pretty much setting up more characters like Supergirl and Lantern etc Another email with 30sec YouTube clips?
Christopher Stewart
>My turn FUCKING WHEDON RUINED THE PERFECT MOVIE
REEEEEEEEE
Camden Bell
At this point the only difference in the two is that Disney probably spends significantly more on buying good reviews. For the last several years you can spot the bought and paid for reviews and you can tell when certain outlets only report positively on Disney shit and shit on DC films.
Jason Walker
Oh god, please, not again.
Connor Lopez
Man WB management is a complete mess.
Ayden Jones
Didnt JL started shooting like 2 months after BvS came out? There was plenty of time to fix the script druing the production... why did they took nearly a whole year to bring someone new in?
Andrew Thomas
Eh, nope, all this "Wheedon RAPED muh movie" memes are just damage controll. Wheedon is fucktard, sure, but Manlet-in-charge-of-kinomatic-universe is THE fucktard.
John Parker
I'd bet every dollar I don't have on account I'm poorer than shit, but I'd bet every dollar I don't have that Snyder and Goyer wanted to do a panel for panel redux of Frank Miller's Dark Knight with a few changes here and there and then the retarded asshole CEO brought in Affleck and his writer, Torreo and shat all over that Idea. And then the dumb as bricks CEO wanted to show horn in wonder woman and then doomsday and then the justice league and then the death of superman.
Snyder's too good for those friggen losers. MOS was boss, F U C K ALL THE HATERS!
Ethan Harris
THS WOULD HAVE BEEN SO FUCKING BOSSS, FUCK YOU WB AND WHEDON.
SNYDER'S TOO GOOD FOR ALL OF YOU FUCKS, FUCK YOU WB, FUCK YOU!!!!!!
That faggot Whedon removed all the boss scenes with Batman and Aquaman because he hated, as he called it, toxic masculinity. WHAT A FUCKING FAGGOT WHEDON AND THIS CEO IS, Snyder is King compared to these fucking losers!
Isaiah Howard
He was paid by marvel executives to ruin it. Screenshot this post.
Leo Myers
>Batman pretty much setting up more characters like Supergirl and Lantern etc Did he send another email to Wonder Woman?
Caleb Ortiz
>2 months two weeks
Angel Cooper
bump
Hudson Davis
>One of those is Batman pretty much setting up more characters like Supergirl and Lantern etc, you even got to see small hints of Shazam.