Adaptation when?

Adaptation when?

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Who would play Judge Holden?

>roastie

Opinion disregarded

Idris Elba

Fat Christian Bale

John Goodman
Michael Shannon
Vincent D'Onofrio
Javier Bardem

When you Marcarthy Fags realise what garbage he is. Seriously, there is nothing authentic about grimdark settings and his "terse"prose is just ass.

Just because its all so grimdark does not make it a good book. People who want a good about cowboys and Glantons scalpers' read Flashman and the Redskins. Numale faggots who want to be seen reading at starbucks read McSharty.

There’s honestly not much more cringe and pseudo intellectual than Sup Forums discussing this book.

>McSharty
>DUHHH HUHHHH I'M SCHO CLEBERRR AHUHHHHUH

>hurr durr grimdark, I'm too dumb to understand the themes underlying the wanton violence present in the book
Kek. Sure thing, buddy.

Best poster

The guy who played Sapper in 2049 seems like he could pull it off.

Pure kino:

youtube.com/watch?v=IPyDPiVvWug

Very deep.

What’s the great themes? It’s always the same thing with McCarthy mankind is naturally sadisic and violent.

I like Blood Meridian, it can be a miserable read and McCarthy’s imagery can let the viewer envision what’s going on. But I don’t think it’s particularly deep.

I'm more partial to pic related tbqh.

That's a great scene.

litcharts.com/lit/blood-meridian/themes

PERFECT

>That's a great scene.
What about it is great?

Directed by Justin Kurzel
12 part miniseries
DOP Adam Arkapaw

Unknown as the kid
Dave Bautista drenched in white makeup as the Judge
Josh Brolin as Glanton
Robert Carlyle as Tobin
Jeremy Davies as Toadvine
Isaac C. Singleton Jr as Black Jackson
Sid Haiges as Davy Brown
Jeff Bridges as Grannyrat
Collin Ferrel as Bathcat
Woody Harrelson as Captain White

The score should be minimal, mostly for ambience

Make the opening credits an ultra close up of someone getting scalloped followed by shots of open landscape with Ben Nichols' The Judge playing over it

All time great post on this board. I want to see fat Patrick Bateman drowning puppies.

I find the questions it brings up on fate and destiny are pretty interesting. How some events seem to be foretold and unavoidable, yet others just seems to happen out of chance

...

Literally all Mcarthy books go so far with the violent nihilistic faggotry that they are comical to read. If two characters are left alone together chances they will both attempt to rape, enslave, or murder the other without reason.This is how Mcarhy chooses to present the world in his fiction and its pure retardation.

He's the literary equivalent of Linkin Park. Angsty teen an hero applicants read is work as conspicuously as possible in order to seem cool and deep. Like the lead singer of Linkin Park, McCarthy needs to KILL HIMSELF.

Good post. Agree that kid should be unknown.

>t. seething brokeback fan fiction enthusiast

fat marlon brando would have been the ultimate choice for the judge. oh well.

I’m not saying Blood Meridian is a bad novel, in fact it’s hauntingly good. But I just don’t think it’s Cormac’s magnum opus. I think Anton Chigurh was a better evil than The Judge. And for real I think the Judges feats of Superhuman strength are better off in capeshit and anime than what otherwise is a dark miserable read.

Massive fan of western themed fiction actually. Blood Meridian is solely for McCarthy's little cult of edgelords to wanker over its violence From any perspective its a heap of shit.

I'm dead serious. If this Thread wants a better and more accurate western novel then read FLASHMAN AND THE REDSKINS. it even has Glanton in it, just a Glanton who is only violent and unpleasant to the degree he probably realistically was. The way he is in BM is sheer sheer faggotry. No wonder the book ends with two dudes shagging in a toilet.

>shagging
another dumb limey obsessed with burger culture

Not the ppl you replied to but have you got anymore western recs?

>From any perspectiive it's a heap of shit
Really? Have you read the book from every perspective, or just yours? Your opinion is invalidated because you're just as wont to discard others' opinions.

I'd start with anything by Zane Grey. The aforementioned Flashman and the Redskins is the absolute best and most truthful (do not read if you're sjw inclined its apologetically accurate) Other than that the real trick to finding western fiction is going to second hand shops and picking up as many of the cheap little western novellas they pushed out back when people use to read more.

The McCarthy fags in this thread oh my lord! I know being an edgy little emo is a preclusion to enjoying McCarhthy but why don't you all try to argue like men for a change?

>argue
>like men
because real men say shit like
>oh my lord!
you are gay as fuck hahahaha

It really is a boring read though. I enjoy the beginning of the book but after the Glanton gang destroys the first major Indian camp it just repeats again and again.

>Dude ruthless criminals are really evil LMAO.

Hell the book’s most famous imagery the bush filled with dead baby corpses is way in the beginning.

There’s no fucking protagonist in Blood Meridian. And I guess that makes it “deep” but really that just makes it a grind of a read.

I think the biggest problem with Meridian is that the kid stops being the focus once he joins Glanton’s gang.

Apocalypse Now era Marlon Brando, if he were still alive.

Real men say whatever they feel like. Look let me do a comparison between the authors of each of our favorite western novels to demonstrate the difference in attitude here......

Cormac McCarthy was a Lawyers kid and alterboy who developed a bitter outlook on life after his wife (rightfully) left him after he demanded she work and support him whilst he became a writer. He had to quit drinking after he couldn't handle it and got a second divorce later in life. (cont)

user you don't have to be so upset about it

seriously

The kid is the protagonist. The protagonist need not be a good person, or a hero. This does not change during the time that he's ingratiated with the gang.

(cont)

Meanwhile, George Macdonald-Fraser was a doctors son from the highlands of Scotland who almost trained to be a doctor before enlisting as a private soldier in WW2. During the conflict he was posted to North India and Burma where he fought the Japanese in the jungle. GMCDF relates in his memoir "Quartered Safe Out Here" killing Japanese soldiers hand to hand in the midst of fierce banzai charges and blowing barges filled with retreating japs apart with a bazooka during a night ambush.

GMCDF always expressed disdain for the over sentimentalization of culture and maintained that the stiff upper lip was the best way to deal with hardship and emotional turmoil.

After the war he became an Officer in the Highlanders being posted to the middle east where he helped keep law and order in that final days of colonialism in Tunisia, and later escorted trains through bandit country in the arab-jewish conflicts.

After demobilization he first became a newspaper editor and later script writer (superman 2, Octopussy, The Three Musketeers). During the course of his Script writing career he spent time working on projects with Steve Mcqueen and Marlon Brando amongst many others. (cont)

(cont)
Also the author of the critically acclaimed Flashman series along with other standalone fiction and history books. His works have recently lost favor in popular culture for being to unprecedentedly "un-PC", a term that MacDonald Fraser loathed.

Though a manlet, GMCDF was noted by people who met him for being one of the toughest men they had ever met. He sat down to write every day while belting scotch and cigars and lived for 86 years without ever stopping. Ever faithful to his first wife they remained married until his death in 2008 and had several children.

(pic related is set in England and its a better western than BM. Just get the fuck off this board McCarthy fags)

What the FUCK was glantons problem?

I just don’t like the large meat of the book of Glanton’s gang exploits. I found it very boring.

I should correct myself yes The Kid is the protagonist, but he falls into the background during several chapters and isn’t relevant until Glanton’s gang die.

Frankly if you just cut several of Glanton’s chapters away it’s much easier read.

>in the midst of seriousposting and then you drop the word manlet
Really enjoyed reading that post and now I wanna check out his works. I just wanna say “manlet” made me laugh out loud in this context.

hahaha i was just trying to build a better picture of him. You really won't be disappointed by his books.

Glanton is by far the most interesting character in the novel. It's stated that he has a wife and a kid somewhere in the U.S. so he can't have been an absolutely horrible at one point, but utterly resigns himself to his perceived destiny as a violent bastard.

Michael Cera in his Juno persona

*grunts*
Mlah because whatever (long pause) exists without (voice crescendo) my knowledge (right) exists (small pause) without my CONSENT (yelled)

Osama Bin Ladin came from a rich family and had children. He decided to pursuit war and live in a dinky house hidden till the end. Not really that implausible some dudes want excitement.

This is the most cringe worthy attempt at a biography of Mccarthy I've ever read. You know nothing about him. You don't even know his real name you fucking imbecile.

Driven mad by war and the judge, pretty much just Ahab but a cowboy

Brainlet detected.
>grimdark
The absolute mark of a pleb with an intellectual disability, well done. Go learn some more buzzwords from Sup Forums, simpleton.

Why should we care about your dumb opinions? Give me three (3) good reasons.

In other words you're a buttmad britstain who is mad he got outwritten.

It will not happen, because the only window of opportunity was for a different studio to adapt it in order to compete with The Revenant at the box office.
I think there are scenes in there that are best put together by your own imagination, rather than have special effects departments try to simulate the effect. Like when the pack-mules are backed off the cliff by the advancing Glanton gang, and their cargo of mercury spills out as they twist and fall in air before their bodies impact on the ground below, while their pooling blood mixes with the liquid metal.
The imagination creates a fitting picture with that description, while a special effect made to achieve the look of the scene has a high chance of looking laughable or overdone (it would not be cheap, if they chose to make this). A description in a book isn't a set of instructions for costume and set designers and special effects artists - it's a passage meant to set off a chain-reaction of your own visionary capacity within your own mind, which is ultimately more rewarding than any fulfillment of some other film-maker's vision no matter how carefully re-created.

I feel like the only way for it to happen and not be shit is for a previously well-established director with a passion for the book to take the reigns. Someone who studios would trust enough to give a good hundred mil. and who would use the money wisely. The only other way I can see it working is as an HBO series with a consistent set of directors and writers, all passionate for the book

Sure, it's not implausible, but it goes deeper with Glanton. His draw to violence is so deep that it's almost supernatural, he is literally compelled to acts of violence.

I agree that it is an unpleasanet read, but the monotony of the violence is integral to the book's theme. The violence becomes boring because of how repetitive it is. The era desensitized the men to the evil of their actions. Also the Kid is clearly the protagonist. Rhe focus shifts a bit in the middle of the book but we always follow the Kid and he becomes the main focus again in the latter third of the book.

I agree - it would need to be a labour of love, and there is great potential for it to be one of the greatest productions ever. that said, I think the main reason it remains unadapted is because the public already has a great film adaptation in No Country for Old Men, which will lead people to McCarthy's other work. Javier Bardem's Chigurh character was like lightning striking - but for the Judge to be played acceptably, the performance would need to be at least as great as that, if not dwarfing it entirely. how can we expect this to happen? it seems too demanding, but that would be the only way to fulfill a production of this book without it feeling like a cop-out.

If Malick had gone through with this it would have been his best movie.

The exact scene I thought of wgen reading about attempts at getting an adaptation going. Theres no way any film will measure up to the book

Rate.

Still haven't seen jt. Didn't it turn out to be a generic romance?

Days of Heaven/Thin Red Line-era Malick might have been able to do it some justice, but current Malick with his fucking constantly moving, swooping camera moves and awful narration? Not a chance. His current aesthetic is the exact opposite of what Blood Meridian would need.

agreed - the landscape is a character in the novel, and the last think it needs is narration of what The Kid is thinking as they're riding through the valley or mountains or desert
can you imagine how awful it would be if there was a narrator describing the electrical storm, catching blue fire on the hoops of their wagons, and the narrator breaks in:
>a region electric and wild where strange shapes of soft blue fire ran over the metal of the horses' trappings and the wagonwheels rolled in hoops of fire
with Malick I'm sure he would include superfluous narration for what would already be a visually-stunning scene, when the visuals (if they were pulled off) would be all you need

>Blood Meridian is unfilmable
Never understood this meme.

This on the other hand, I'm waiting for a 3 hour animated adaption

What did the ending mean? did the Kid (Man) finally meet his end in the outhouse?

the studio completely ruined it. billy bob is still supersalty about it.

the book was pretty fantastic. don't really want to watch this movie though.

gravity's rainbow would have to be at least 4 hours

Flashman is awesome, glad you brought that up. Every one of those books is great.
You're wrong about McCarthy, though.

>Vincent D'Onofrio

this

Yeah. I really don't think there's any other way to interpret it. The details are left ambiguous but whatever happened must have been extremely grotesque, since those guys who go to the outhouse afterward can't even bring themselves to look at the scene.