WB here. It is complete panic mode over here. A total disaster

WB here. It is complete panic mode over here. A total disaster.

WB is my favorite "movie company" today but what the hell are they thinking? JL was obviously unfinished and the released it hoping the shit will stick to the wall.

Does anyone over there make jokes about "KAHL ELL NOOO"

Release a Snyder's director cut, fuck Whedons reshoots

Anyway, i was thinkig about how harsh they have been about somethings...
I mean, when Supes tells Batman "Do you bleed?", i found it awesome, literally made me shit my pants and praise the scene

Obviously marvelfags criticize it, and then praise things like Thor going black widow on hulk to calm him down, with the exact same faggot words.

Makes me think

Make it right. You know it to be true.

fucking prove it.

>$300 million production + $200 million promotion = $500 million Total Costs
Justice League needs $1 billion to break even. With a underwhelming opening weekend and stiff competition around the corner (Coco and The Last Jedi), this movie is basically doomed unless it has some serious legs and decent word of mouth.

lol, these marvel morons sure are getting desperate

Did WB get a tax cut for using a mentally challenged person as the flash?

Well deserved.

Original Snyder cut

>LONGER: Began with Bruce recruiting Aquaman. It was basically the same scene as I saw in the theatrical version this weekend. However, some lines were added by Whedon and some Zack bits were cut. Aquaman was originally more resilient and shut-off to Bruce here.
>DELETED: Barry Allen visits the library because he knows that Iris West is there. He tries to talk to her but fumbles and blushes. He mentions that "he might go and see his Dad today". Iris likes his awkwardness but doesn't think he's all that special. We see Barry breaking the window with his finger to kind-of impress Iris (our FIRST look at his powers). When everyone and Iris are surprised at this window breaking, Barry just says "weak glass" and walks out.
>LONGER: History Lesson. But just by some bits. What I was most surprised by was that WB cut out dialogue by the Green Lantern, Zeus and even Ares (Yes, he was there too). They had a couple of lines each. As did Robin Wright and Hippolyta. They just kept the action in and clicked out all dialogue, I guess.
>DELETED: After taking the Mother Box from Themiscyra, Steppenwolf actually "talks" to the Box. His mother, Heggra's essence is alive in the Mother Boxes and bringing them all together would unleash her powers - finally giving Steppenwolf an edge over his younger brother - Darkseid. That is what his plan was originally. I thought for sure that they would keep this scene in because they used a dialogue from this scene in the trailers - "No protectors here. No Lanterns. This world will fall. You will be free, mother."
>DELETED - Cyborg's previous life. He plays a great football match that his MOTHER (Yes, she was cast as well) attends. Afterwards, they drive home. Victor is angry that his Dad never made it while his mother tries to console him. Victor just keeps getting angry and lashing out, loses control of the car - causing a fiery crash.

cont...

Tell some funny anedoctes, OP

>LONGER - The Gordon scene had a little setup that I didn't see in the theatrical version. Gordon dismisses a Junkie and tells him to "get better at life" before another cop comes to him with drawings of Parademons. His conversation with the League also ran longer. First, he asks Wonder Woman "if she's the same woman he keeps seeing reports of in London". Then, he asks Cyborg "how does he eat? Does he even need to?".
>DELETED: After the attack on Atlantis, Aquaman consults with Mera and Vulko over what he should do next. Mera wants him to stay as King because she "doesn't trust Orm". Vulko wants him to do what his heart says. Aquaman confesses that he feels a responsinility to help the people on Earth.
>DELETED: The League visits the Batcave. Alfred has humorous reactions to the League. Bruce Wayne talks about a "nightmare" he had. He believes that Steppenwolf will try and resurrect the power of Superman and "that they must do it first unless they want to fight an Evil Kryptonian too."
>CHANGED: Superman's resurrection was ONLY possible because Cyborg detects foreign genetic material in his DNA a.k.a the Codex. This is the final confirmation needed that Superman can be brought back to life after all. Then, the revival happens pretty much the same.
>DELETED: Deathstroke breaks Lex out of prison. They part ways because the cops are hot on their trail - deciding to meet up later at "the location they discussed".

cont...

>decent word of mouth

I don't know about you people but all i'm hearing and reading tells me that JL is a majestic cosmic turd

>and then praise things like Thor going black widow on hulk to calm him down

t. Pajeet Rahmadan

>DELETED: Kent Farm. Superman brings Lois here. however, he is still very confused and not knowing what's happening. Bystanders are looking at him and clicking his photos. This confuses him further and he actually tries to attack the civilians with his laser-eyes before Lois manages to calm him down. Superman tells her that "the voices won't shut up". Later, Martha shows up here and Clark and Lois are already inside the house. Clark is calmer now but still very confused - his powers are going haywire and his senses are heightened. Martha gives the "Picture the world as an Island. Follow my voice and come back to me" speech from MoS. It seems to calm him down. Later, Clark is wearing his shirt when he sees Pa Kent (Yes, Costner was here too) out in the fields. He goes out to see him. Pa Kent talks about "embracing who you really are". He tells Clark that "you have to make peace with who you are. You have the power to change the world and you can do that as anyone, good character or bad." Clark finally embraces Superman as a part of him when Lois walks out. Clark confirms their engagement, Lois breaks down because she wasn't strong enough. Then, Martha comes out too as Clark decides to help the League and flies off.
>DELETED: Clark heads up to meet Alfred and get his suit.
>DELETED: Steppenwolf's second conversation with Heggra. Now that he has all three Mother Boxes - her return to this world can begin.
>CHANGED: Bruce's conversation with Diana after Superman returns. Diana comes in to pop Bruce's shoulder and tend to his injuries. Bruce reveals that he is willing to die to save the world. In fact, he says "he deserves to die because of what he's done. He's killed people and nothing, not even his hate for Superman can justify killing like that". Diana tells him that "he's changed now" but Bruce remains adamant that he can only atone himself by sacrificing his life.

cont..

>$200 million promotion
proofs

Press F

Keep dumping

>CHANGED: Bruce's Batmobile is headed to certain death during the finale when Wonder Woman and Aquaman interfere and save his life. They tell him that dying in battle won't do anything and he must live to keep the fight going.
>ALTERNATE ENDING WE WERE SHOWN: Cyborg tries to separate the Mother Boxes while Heggra keeps trying to talk him away. Furious, Steppenwolf grabs him and rips him apart - essentially killing him.
>CHANGED: Superman joins the fight and teams up with the League to defeat Steppenwolf. However, at one point, Steppy tries to tempt Superman into joining his army and we see Darksied (for the first time) in Superman's vision and we see flashes of the Knightmare footage. However, Superman SNAPS back from it and delivers the final blow to Steppy, defeating him.
>DELETED: Steppenwolf is killed by Darkseid on Apokolips. Darkseid intends to come to Earth to "meet the Kryptonian".
>DELETED: Aquaman meets Mera off the village coast and agrees to come back. Barry steps into the library, Iris smiles at him cutely.
>DELETED: Bruce and Barry place Victor's "body" in the Batcave. Bruce comments that "his organic tissue is dead but it may be possible to reignite his mechanical parts". Barry promises to help however he can.
>DELETED: Lois introduces Perry White to "Clark Kent a.k.a Superman".

Basically a superior version
Fuck WB

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Well what the fuck did you expect?
>lock Snyder out of his own movie and continually interfere throughout production
>reshoot nearly all his original footage (poorly) to add more "humor" at the expense of plot
>fire JunkieXL and ditch him and Hans Zimmer's epic score
>cut nearly an hour of the movie to fit a last minute mandate from your retard CEO to be under 2 hours

You brought this on yourself. If you want to do your penance invite Snyder back to finish what he started for the bluray.

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Just DC. Warner Bros actually had a pretty good year with most of their other movies like IT.

not proofs

>Makes a lot of money with Wonder Woman
>Loses it all with the flagship title

>cut nearly an hour of the movie to fit a last minute mandate from your retard CEO to be under 2 hours
Did the failure of Blade Runner 2049 influence this decision? Its length was one of the most commonly cited issues general audiences had with it.

>Projected to make an extremely weak and disappointing 110 mil opening

>Now going to make less than Wonder Woman

>On track for sub-100 opening

Surely a whole bunch of fucking people are about to get fired over this unmitigated disaster, right?

lmao feels good to be a marvelfag, tell us more about the meltdown

Bring Alan Horn back. This asshole needs to go.

>bragging with a marvel comics image
yikes

that's not gonna do anything, it's the theatrical release that matters.

They always said marketing was roughly half production. But that doesn't sound right. We know they spent 200 million on Tranaformers 4...but they also spent 20 million on Evil Dead, which was MORE than the film budget.

What are they doing? How spooked are they? Do they at least understand why? Give us specifics on how people are reacting, please.

It would need $500 million then? The doubling to break even is to take account of marketing costs. If you're already adding them in there's no point in doubling it.

>The doubling to break even is to take account of marketing costs
no it's to account for the cut that theaters get

Lord of the Rings was 3 hours long in theur theatrical cuts and no one seemed to mind.

More likely the material of Blade Runner was just too heady and dense for your average moviegoer who go in expecting fast-paced action and quips while they browse facebook on their phones.

Marketing budget is separate from production budget. They're added together after the fact. So if the JL total cost is likely around $500 million and theaters get about half of profit.

The funny thing is WB capeshit is really no worse than Disney capeshit. It's not.

Word of advice: investigate the people ratings-bombing your shit. There's no way they can say this shit is always bad and the Disney shit is always 95%+ no matter how bad it is.

The movie was fucked and meddled with by the producers way before Whedon took over.

you should talk to people who actually watched it
it was pretty good, i was pleasantly surprised

Hollywood accounting will take full effect so it won't be nearly as bad as those projections. Still a disappointment though.

Yeah. There was a course correction after the negative reaction to Dawn of Justice, a course correction after the success of Wonder Woman, Whedon changed things when he came aboard, and then Tsujihara issued the less two hour mandate. Is anything left of what Snyder originally envisioned?

Yes, but no execs will be laid off. Only the people who had no part in the decision making. I wouldn’t be surprised if the person who works in the mail room is fired.

What about The Hall of Justice? Was there oeigibally meant to be more scenes of that being built?

Nope.

Pretty unsurprising that the length of BR2049 was a complaint people made.

I was in a dine-in theatre when I watched it and had a lot of the movie's quiet dialogue ruined for me because the people behind me kept ordering nachos and chicken tenders.

Most people are just unable to not fucking sit still, watch, and think about what they're watching for more than 20 minutes.

>dine-in theatre
there's your problem

I didn't know it was going to be in the half of the cinema that serves food. There's another half of the place that has regular seating. Unfortunately, unless you know what screen number you're watching the movie in, you don't know what kind of seating it is.

How the fuck can anyone stand watching a movie surrounded by people ordering food and eating? This sounds like a nightmare to deal with.

Like I said here: It's bad enough having to sit next to some mongoloid opening a plastic bag of gummy bears during a quiet part of the movie. Imagine silverware clanking.

Sometimes it's unavoidable due to movie times and how many theaters they're showing the movie in that night.

I just wish people could go a couple hours without stuffing their fucking faces in public.

>>I just wish people could go a couple hours without stuffing their fucking faces in public.
We live in america, that's never gonna happen

I chuckled.

Yeah that’s a completely fucked situation to not know what theater you’re getting. My autism goes haywire just hearing someone coughing or sneezing during a quiet scene, can’t even imagine dealing with the clanking of silverware. What a bunch of fucking retards.

>Elfman also has strong words for reboots and reinterpretations of character themes. Batman, for instance, has had numerous themes over the years courtesy of Hans Zimmer's work on The Dark Knight trilogy, as well as Zimmer's Junkie XL collaboration for BvS.

>"The whole concept that every time a superhero franchise is rebooted with a new director, then you have to start the music from scratch is a bullshit idea. It’s only for the ego of the director or the composer," says Elfman. "They need to learn the incredible lesson that Star Wars and James Bond have known for ages, which is that keeping these musical connections alive is incredibly satisfying for the people who see those films."

Is he right?

Yeah, I guess so. But on the other hand he made a different theme for Batman 1989 than Batman 1966

Theaters get like 10% of the cut in the first week

why do people just pull figures like this out their ass? why do you think you know anything about the movie business?

This sounds so good.

Do these scenes exist?

>he's right you know

Three words... Space Jam Two.

No, Elfman has just become a lazy cunt with age

i.e. all his capeshit scores sound the same now

They deserve it for locking Snyder out

Could have been Burton demanding everything be redone from scratch. We do know that Elfman kept everything highly consistent until Zimmer took over for Batman Begins, even the animated stuff had similar scores to the films.

He just wants them to keep using his score so he gets paid without having to do anything.

*makes generic soundtrack*
*bury the classic cues in a ton of shit that makes them barely recognizable*
*make the Wonder Woman theme even worse and ignore the classic theme unlike you did with Batman and Superman*

Now no one has a theme

nah, just a lazy faggot

WARNER BROS EXPLAIN THIS NOW

Elfman did the soundtrack for Mission Impossible, which used cues from the original TV series, so it isn't just about keeping his shit relevant.