Paranatural - in which Chubs McGee gets a name

>*max voice* that's right, alex. i know it's hard to believe, but... cool people are people too

>And that's the scene!

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I've avoided reading Paranatural for over a year, because of stagnant pages like these.

I told myself I'd let them amass first.

I've been off the internet for several months. Are we still on the awkward lesbians at a restaurant arc?

Dialogue turned to crap. It's not worth it anymore, even if you can read it in a batch.

No, this is one of the many other ongoing disappointments. It's still the same chapter, though.

Can we just agree to stop posting pages on Sup Forums. It's the only place I end up seeing them anyway and I get really depressed.

Jesus. Am I also correct in assuming Zack is still completely up his own ass?

Its one of several parallel plots going on.

In a better story, this would have been a slight reference to the fourth wall. Here it's breaking the wall, crushing the pieces and snorting the dust.

Sadly, it fell to its own 4th wall breaking antics like I feared it would
Zack doesn't like creating characters that he can't use as puppets, Max is a great example of that
Believe it or not, it's gonna get worse if he doesn't get slapped in the dick soon enough to steer him off this kind of shit

This is like abuse at this point.

Watching a promising webcomic with a promising story, fun characters and great art become nonsensical, cliched schlock is depressing as fuck.

This is pathetic. Two updates a week were a mistake. And the art still makes me want to vomit. Fuck, I wish I had an image to perfectly illustrate my bitterness and anger so I'm just gonna post something that makes me smile instead.

>Every webcomic you love stagnate into mediocre oblivion

Do you think Zack will ever look back at it for what it was? Do you think he'll ever find these threads on an archive or something years after he drops the comic after he gets some cushy storyboard er job somewhere and sees how much he disappointed people?

I mean what do you even call this? An unknowing creator that trudge along and isn't even aware of the abstract feelings of regret and bitterness he brings to a group of people?

This image basically sums up mine. Any anger I had over it is long gone, replaced by weary resignation.

so for now the entire year and 3 months long note plot was pointless.

Well by Alex. See you when Zack brings you back in 7 years or so.

This conversation took 8 whole pages.

Why did Zack do this? This wasn't exactly the best time to bring up a new character when there's a bajillion things happening.

Was it just because he felt there wasn't enough fat people in the main cast?

>this comic has been around for almost as long as adventure time, more than half a decade
>never read it, but slowly saw the progression of the threads from a group of genuinely excited people who loved a genuinely good comic to a group of people in denial of someone who betrayed their fanbase in favor of tumblr brownie points, and now a dejected, bitter, and sad group of people disappointed in something they used to love and still follow like a battered wife out of some fleeting hope that it will get better, when literally every single last thread for the last year has been nothing but posts like the ones above me

I'm genuinely sorry and I hope you can find another story that will enraged you as much as this one originally did snd can actually satisfy you in the end.

*a comic that engaged you

>all of this just to ask her name

>also, reminder of Lightning Rod-gate and other scandals

My friend who also read this comic died last year, during the Zarei date scene. He will never see the comic return to its former quality. Neither will the rest of us, for that matter, but he died during what can only be described as the total nadir of quality.

Fuck you Zack Morrison.

Man this whole ordeal just lacked any subtlety, style or charm. It's so ham-fisted. There's winking at the camera and there's grabbing it.

A webcomic artist

Morrison if you wanted to make them fuck you'd just make them fuck for Christ's sake, you don't need to break the 4th wall 5 times to tell us in excruciatingly long detail how they all want the D in some corporeal or spiritual form

Get a Grip

Didn't he post something about wanting Sup Forums to hate the comic because everyone on this site is a horrible white male rapist?

What?

I think he meant more of what the comic was about he didn't want it to relate to Sup Forums. He made a tweet saying how he didn't mean the audience from Sup Forums.

>15 panels
>16 if you count the inset panelling on #1

At what point do you pull back, realize you're not using your pages or dialogue effectively, and revise?

We could avoid this if more webcomic authors actually wrote their ending before they started drawing.

>Zack doesn't like creating characters that he can't use as puppets, Max is a great example of that

Zack should be have both his wrists broken for what he did to Max, that whole melodramatic scene with him and Isaac was the worst.

I remember when Hitball started and fans would call people pointing out the warning signs a bunch of haters.

I can't wait until Alex turns out to be a boy and/or transexual due to their gender neutral name.

100%

Fuck's sake can we please get back to Johnny so things can start happening again?

Why do you keep reading something made by someone who has intentionally alienated you and attempted to exclude you from liking their story?

Why give it even your divided attention when it's blatantly clear this comic isn't for you?

Let it die the death it needs and deserves.

>intentionally alienate
It's kind of funny that it's not the insertion of blind chubby black lesbian that bummed people out, although there was a lot of screaming over it. The truly terrible thing is the pacing. The pacing is what is getting people tired of this.

>get back to Johnny so things can start happening again?

That isn't things happening though, that's another side story about the school bully finding out about all the paranormal shit going on. It's a better side track than this, but lets not pretend it's the most important thing Zack's ignoring.

I read it because it's not terrible enough yet to be worth forgetting about. I don't check it religiously like Gunnerkrigg Court and Unsounded, but I still like it well enough when I read it. I think Zack's an ass, sure, but that's a separate issue from his webcomic. And he hasn't run his comic into the ground yet.

Fucking hack

Don't worry.

You will die before paranatural gets good too.

>alex
what the fuck

is that a legit girl name?

>but lets not pretend it's the most important thing Zack's ignoring.

I bet the whole Hi-jack it's going to get resolved off-panel or something equally anticlimactic.

Alexandra, Alexis, Alexia etc. There are a lot of female names that Alex can be short for.

So she just wants it to sound cool, like Max.

>ONE PANEL is relevant
Is this a new record in decompression for Zack?

Surely you've seen Totally Spies...the black-haired yellow suited spy?

And i always thought it was weird. 'Sam' was weird as well.

>Bites the Dust

The ranting about how I don't want to just be in the background?

...

>one panel is relevant
the one he exits?

At this point, I'm pretty sure Zack has been up there so long that he can claim his own ass as permanent residence.

>I'm Alex

...as in Alexandra?

As in water filters.

>I'm Alex
He hasn't actually exited yet. Fourth wall break could possibly become relevant if something were done with it in the future, but right now it isn't.

>possibly become relevant if something were done with it in the future, but right now it isn't.
That describes most of the scenes in this chapter desu.

>possibly become relevant if something were done with it in the future, but right now it isn't.

Well no duh, Chekhov putting his gun on the mantlepiece is irrelevant, except that someone's gonna pick it up again in the future.

The wait is frustrating but obviously Zack has some kind of plan to make everything relevant in 2018 or 2019.

Aaaaam I the only one that wants to see awkward middle school romance between Max and Alex?

Alternatiely, Rule 34 will do

>TFW anonanim hasn't done porn of any of the paranatural shotas in months

I want to see Alex violate Max while verbally abusing him for getting hard to a fatty

why are you guys still reading this
just give up hope and stop checking like the rest of us

People had already been burned by Ghost Train at that point, it should have been obvious

Cody centric arc WHEN?

It is truly depressing.

>tfw no cute shota bf
>tfw you aren't the cute shota either

I forgot Wangledangle did some Cody art too

Damn it's depressing, it's cute shota

>not one person put this up on paheal
Slipping.

If shotacon artists aren't even bothering to do more fanart then you know for sure that this webcomic can't recover.

has there been a page more iconic than this yet?

I love this guy. Where does he hang out?

With Y-Gallery still dead, probably Pixiv or Hiccears

I just finished reading the entire comic from the very beginning to see what all the fuss is about and the pacing... left a lot to be desired.

But less in a “Zack is dragging things out” way and more like… Chapter 4 introduced SO many things that would have been better introduced at an earlier time. I feel like there are chapters missing between 3 and 4. The few payoffs were confusing and hardly gripped me. Isaac feeling betrayed by Max withholding information, Eightfold getting separated from Isabel, Johnny getting all introspective of his bullying, etc.

- The comic really should have had a few more “one-off” chapters before falling into Chapter 4. It certainly feels more on-rails than before. I didn’t feel much about Eightfold’s goodbye because Eightfold was introduced in the very same chapter and was barely properly established before she was snuffed out. I guess I was supposed to care, but I left wondering if it was a lost opportunity for some "feels."

- The whole thing about the grandfather whining about Isabel using her book too much was introduced in the same chapter as well and it felt almost hamfisted that shortly after, Isabel was put in a position where she wasn’t in reach of her book and had to rely on herself. Too on-the-nose.

- The scene with Johnny and Ollie after hitball was so melodramatic, he’s been such a meme at this point that it felt like whiplash for him to suddenly get all introspective. I guess he has an excuse since he’s now seeing ghosts, but I dunno. It's also weird to see Ed go from a grinning carefree goofball to an angsty useless weak-willed nerd. He doesn't even feel like the same character from the beginning.

- The comic's not THAT bad on the whole, but it's like I've been thrown into having to care about many things that haven't even been properly established. Maybe there should have been more ghosts-of-the-week chapters before Chapter 4? Key moments come out prematurely and he rarely gives you enough time to feel invested in anything.

- He should also quit taking cues from Gigi and tone down the fourth wall sledgehammering at this point. It was cute three chapters ago, but now it's ridiculous.

What "ruined" Paranatural for everybody else? Or at least left you feeling disappointed?

Let's be honest, when these threads were getting popular everyone treated this comic like an alternative to Homestuck. It was fun but it was never the greatest thing ever, it just seemed that way in comparison to HS.

At least have solace that it will never actually be THAT bad.

Some of the Jonny chase scene pages might be more iconic, but this is still great.

Do you think that has something to do with both Homestuck and Paranatural getting a comic dub?

Sorry that was for

wow

i legit pegged him as a girl since i saw him on the bus

did everyone else know?

Still not sure that's confirmed. This is kind of a "Pat" situation

HE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT

This page isn't terrible like the last page.

Zack needs to learn that it stops being subversion when it happens so often that the audience expects it

And also that just because you subvert something doesn't mean you are clever, funny, or a good writer.

The author put gay kids in his story because he thought it would make Sup Forums mad, maybe this kid is a MTF tranny

But probably not, since kids are only drawn ambiguously gendered when they're normal

Jumping through the bus.

He drank the SJW kool-aid in a big way, now he flagellates himself for ever having cared about our opinion, which is ironic because while Sup Forums might be bitter fucking assholes, they can also be a genuinely good source of criticism, which is more than can be said of the crowd he currently is trying to appeal to, who will fawn on you until you mis-step and then bite your fucking head off with no middle ground.

Hitball was good compared to everything that came after it, even if it did drag on too long.

You're on the nose with basically everything.

The "dragged out" complaints stem from the way Zack uses his pages and his upload schedule. He'll use 30 panels across two or three pages to say something that could have been accomplished in half a page, because he feels a need to give all possible dialogue its own facial reaction. It creates this weird problem where nothings ever fucking happening when following it serially because everything moves so slow, but it's not even satisfying in the long run because there's no substance in any of the scenes either. This is only exacerbated by Zack skipping numerous updates a month at this point.

It's probably why he's throwing so many fucking subplots together at once instead of introducing them at a natural pace as their own focused chapters. There's so many in Chapter 4 especially: Hitball, the School Store and Max's blackmailing, Isaac following Mr. Garcia on a false lead and probably discovering the Cousinhood, Johnny's self reflection about bullying after dealing with a spirit who called him out on it, and whatever the fucking bullshit with the interracial disabled lesbian date is supposed to be. But because the story updates so slowly he probably thinks he's saving time by combining it all together, and that's just making every development shallow and rushed.

It's female. Zack was referring as such. We all were as well and he didn't correct anyone.

He didn't put gay kids because of Sup Forums. He did it because he begame a total faggot after his girfriend checked his priviledges.

Basically this. Paranatural is a B tier comic with F tier pacing, that tries to do this really weird and grand story but has no idea on how to do weird and grand plots with good pacing.

We should be in Chapter 7 right now. Chapter 4 works as an extra long chapter with 2-3 running plotlines and a tangent in the middle, but Chapter 5 should be at least 3 separate chapters. One for dealing with the adults and the aftermath of Ch. 4, one for Max and Student Council, and one for Hijack, Hitball, Demitri, and the kids dealing with the aftermath of Ch. 4.

Zack needs to stop working for a few weeks. Take a breather, and actually plan out what he's going to do. He could have had a lot of momentum going from the end of Homestuck but instead he wants to do this gag-a-week bullshit.

" I dont want to be just in the background anymore... because they dont exist anymore... Ill fade into nothing. Max...I think the world is an illusion, a trick of the eye.. If you stop.. and look out of the corner of your eye.. its.. gone.. nothing. its.. its like the world only exists when you are looking right at it."

wew

He goes more in depth in the replies, stating that he doesn't read threads here
>twitter.com/paranaturalzack/status/480506058944040960

Yeah. He's so far up his own ass and drowning in kool-aid that he can probably taste his own fruity tonsils.

Have you guys drawn any fanart? Made any fanfiction? Even if it was a long time ago and you've shared it already.

Or if you deleted it or it's porn you can just say what it was.

What do you guys think of his girlfriend's comic? I think it's pretty meh, and it's also pretty amusing that she doesn't know how to portray low income neighborhoods (the monsters are shown to be poor and whatnot but from the way things are drawn it looks like they live in the suburbs)

...

At least she has a buffer in place and actually updates on time

>hardly any of the girls

Here's a gem.
>T-that'll show them

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It's like Masaccio, except instead of dying, he just became run of the mill.

The early art was so beautifully unique, and now it's bland, washed out Tumblrchic.

This chapter is such a rambling mess, as well. Every couple of pages we seem to bounce to a new subplot.

Hitball itself should have been a separate chapter, considering it had its own 3 act structure.

>girls

Can you imagine Zack seeing all the shota porn that gets posted in here? Do you think he likes it?

>Tumblrchic

I can't keep up anymore. "tumblr" art used to be anything with squiggly carrot noses and blush. What has it evolved into now??