Friend gets me to start watching gravity falls

>Friend gets me to start watching gravity falls
>Season 1 was pretty good. Not amazing but I liked it
>End of Season 1 and what ive seen of Season 2 is really good
>MABEL IS STILL NEVER CHANGING.
>EVERY EPISODE IS HER TREATING DIPPER LIKE SHIT, LEARNING A LESSON ABOUT IT, THEN NEXT EPISODE DISREGARDING THAT LESSON AND SHITTING ALL OVER HIM AGAIN

I DON'T UNDERSTAND.

I'm only about 5 episodes deep and just finished Sock Opera so maybe she does change.

SHE DOESN'T CHANGE, user
She literally exists as a plot device to make other characters change instead

I'm sorry user but....

Just wait until the finale.

The show was made by a guy who wants to fuck his twin sister and believes she can do no wrong.

I believe this is accurately reflected.

MABLE: I'M THE BABY GOT TO LOVE ME!
DIPPER: I'm flawed, but I work to better myself and I am willing to sacrifice my happiness for safety of everyone else.

>That awkward moment when the character intended to be one dimensional rich bitch ends up being the best female character and the character intended to be a delightful, lovable ball of sunshine ends up being the worst character period

Boy you're going to love love love the last four or so episodes.

Has anyone ever roasted Alex for this? Like at a con or in an interview?

He's super sensitive about it because he wants to fuck his sister.

I really get Sock Opera. They adress Mabel's selfishness only to have her go right back to it after the episode's over.

Also, I'm not one of those guys who declares episodes to be "torture porns" that episode really seemed like 22 minutes of Dipper suffering

Was his sister even hot when young? Is she hot now?

don't really get* is what I meant to type

>Sock Opera
Such a good episode.

Why didn't Dipper tell Mable to grow up? Her childish antics literally endangered the safety of the world.

Because retards make him horny.

Eh, it was okay.

Because he's in love with his sister.

Sorry you got bullied as a kid or whatever made you like this.

She's not bad.

>maybe she does change.

Nope.

You are wrong. The problem with the man is not his incestual lust. If only it were that simple, the problem with Alex Hirsch is that he himself is part of the generation of North Americans who are MOST emasculated and the biggest politically correct pussy simpy ass beta males. That is the problem and why a female character like Mabel gets away with her shit. In fact look at what Wendy said in one episode:

"We are women and we take whatever we want!"

That type of mentality on women is common around men from Alex Hirsch's generation. They're too pussified and been sniffing too much estrogen and besides his bullshit is what a company like Disney embraces because Disney is the biggest Pro-Female corporation in the world.

Good enough would hit.

Mabel's supposed to be the older twin too.

Which really only serves to make their relationship the slightest bit more fucked up than it already is.

Alex the creator has deep issues with pedestalizing women, and change implies fault.
you will notice that ALL character development is experienced by males, while females are talking furniture and plot devices.
plus she's based on his sister.

I don't know what he expected when he made Mabel the only significant female in Dipper's life.

If he didn't want us to find out about his shameful secret, he really should've had his self insert hook up with Wendy or Pacifica.

Well, Pacifica gets development in one episode, but it's forgotten about in her only subsequent appearance.

And that's a pretty low bar for best female character.

Should also point out that he hates Pacifica and that's the only reason she was allowed to change, however briefly.

Why would he hate the most interesting female character in his own series?

He probably considers Mabel to be the most interesting one

...

Because he's a shitty writer that will inevitably ruin the show.

Well, this thread's gonna get deleted soon

Pacifica is supposed to be generic spoiled rich bitch and Mabel is his perfect angel sister that he wants to fuck but shh, don't tell her that.

Didn't he already ruin it?

I'm pretty sure not bringing up how Mabel's the one who caused the apocalypse was a conscious decision, and that Alex truly believes that she can do no wrong.

The show also seemed to be adverse to having her suffer to any signifigant extent.

>Sacrifices a chance to impress a guy, only to decide that he wasn't worth her time anyway.
>Admits that stealing a love potion was wrong, but doesn't really suffer any consequences or have to fix her mistake.
>Spends 90% of the apocalypse in a cushy bubble where she gets everything she wants, having it easier than literally everybody else in town.
>Her brother gives up his dream for her, and she doesn't have to give up anything signifigant

You can get away with anything if yourea hot little girl.
But not learning or retaining lessons is a staple of shit shows. The Simpsons, for one

>hot little girl.

Explain yourself.

That jelly bean body and braces. 11/10

>not mentioning the ass-reaching hair.

I'd be really interested if someone made a video compilation on this topic honestly. I can't really tell how much of claims like these are exaggerated shitposts but I seem to remember some of that stuff.

How many times has Stan Smith learned to respect his son?

Well, Stan is not a hot little girl...

I was referring to the "characters never learning their lesson is a staple of cartoons" part of that post.

PINE FAMILY POWER RANKINGS
>Dipper
>Tyrone
>Ford
>Stan
>Mabel

stan was great until he fucked up the summon circle because my fee-fee's

Well on the bright side, fucking up the summon circle nearly got Mabel killed.

The thing with Mabel is that she's the stupid fuck to Dipper's genius. It's also related to how Stan and Ford were to each other

Mabel is bound to become someone like stan while Dipper becomes someone like Ford and the show plays a lot on that

both stan and ford got to be annoying

>stan, an uneducated conman, spends his entire adulthood trying to learn what must be done to save his brother
>Ford: no way fag

>Ford comes an inch close to stopping Bill with the surviving townsfolk
>Stan: no way fag

No way Mabel would do for Dipper what Stan did for Ford. Dippy Fresh is proof of that.

I'm honestly almost surprised Mabel didn't get called out for Dippy Fresh.

Mabel's a girl. She gets away with anything

I'm fairly certain she did, by Dipper.

>her tongue and her expression in that one rule34 image

Not really. Dipper gets mad at Dippy Fresh, but he doesn't get mad at Mabel for Dippy Fresh

Anger gets directed toward Dippy, but Dipper, Wendy, and Soos do not directly call Mable out on her creation of Dippy Fresh

...

Please come back when you get to the finale episodes. I need to see your reaction

Shut the fuck up about mabel. Shes great damnit.

Haven't seen S yet so I went to the wiki and looked for "Dippy Fresh".

>Dippy Fresh is Mabel's fantasy version of a perfect Dipper. She prepared him as "a backup Dipper with a more supportive attitude," in case real Dipper complained about Mabeland.
I'm not really liking what this description is implying.

t. Alex Hirsch

>Also, I'm not one of those guys who declares episodes to be "torture porns" that episode really seemed like 22 minutes of Dipper suffering

Look we've already established that that episode existed solely to generate thousands upon thousands of sadomasochistic fetish pornography pictures and stories and a new most popular and controversial ship.

Also

>this thread

Do we really need this every single day? How long until it turns into an incestposting dump since these threads are stealth incestfags + a few Padippicafags and Titsfica fags? Questions.

That Mabel has no second thoughts about letting her brother die when she has a backup version in store

don't spoil yourself too much, it's better to watch it when you're fresh

neither do Brock or Doc

> CARTOON CHARACTERS IN A SITUATION COMEDY DON'T GROW OR CHANGE MUCH AND THEY GET AWAY WITH THINGS THAT THEY COULDN'T IF THEY WEREN'T CARTOON CHARACTERS, IT'S NOT FAAAAAAAIIRRRRRR

you must be 18+ to post on Sup Forums

If we could follow up on the previous thread's "what would you do with an additional 20 episodes" topic, that'd be great. I wanted to expand on my exercise/exorcise post, but the thread 404'd before I got home from work.

>when the character intended to be one dimensional rich bitch ends up being the best female character

She warmed up for five minutes and reverted to form at the end. Put your penis back in your pants and quit virtue hunting you enormous faggot.

>EVERY EPISODE IS HER TREATING DIPPER LIKE SHIT, LEARNING A LESSON ABOUT IT, THEN NEXT EPISODE DISREGARDING THAT LESSON AND SHITTING ALL OVER HIM AGAIN

I don't remember this

pwease don't stop
we're fucking broken, mate

You're right, she never learned a lesson about it.

She's still the best female character when your other choices are Mabel and Wendy, user

Best in terms of what, your boner for anything vaguely Aryan looking?

>He says, dick in hand

Just pretend the show got cancelled after season 1, TRUST US ON THIS ONE!

>Missing out on the scenery porn in season 2

Fuck off

That's fair

In terms of not being an apocalyptic shitbird or a boring box of dirt

>le "I totally just started watching this show and omg TIRED TALKING POINT THATS BEEN DISCUSSED TO DEATH" template thread

You've squeezed every drop of juice from this meme, let it die.

At least hackposting has a shred of truth to it and gets new material everytime he makes a Drumpf joke or makes a homoerotic tweet about Justin Roiland.

I thought bag of mud was your preferred phrase

I like to switch it up sometimes

This.

I mean, it's something worth complaining about but OPs post is way too much of a setup for a Mabel hate thread. Especially since if you haven't finished watching you kind o expect it to be handled, even though it doesn't.

>you kind o expect it to be handled, even though it doesn't.
Lots of things that should have been handled either weren't, or got done poorly thanks to "no season 3 for you." Lee and Ford's reconciliation, Dipper's gradual corruption by Ford and redemption, no one gets to whine that Mabel didn't have some epic being told off moment followed by tearful begging for user's forgiveness, not Dipper's.

Mabelfag detected

More of a Wendy guy, really

Well I don't want to cause an apocalyptic argument, but let's just say that one of the later episodes caused quite the rift in the fan's opinions of Mabel, though it's not the end of the world

Nice try Mason

but what?

It probably doesn't mean much, I have this headcanon where, after the events of the series, Mabel feels guilty over the times Dipper suffered and she wasn't able to or didn't help him (Such as Sock Opera and Weirdmageddon part 1) and, figuring that she's technically the older sibling, resolves to be more protective of him in a big-sister-but-not-quite way.

The big reason she wasn't able to evolve

Really says something when the necromancer is the most concerned.

I never understood the hate for her until the final

She's such a stupid and selfish piece of shit

>Hirsch became a cartoonist
>His sister went on to study marine biology
>Hirsch was Mabel, his sister was Dipper
It all makes sense.

So what you're saying is that Mabel wants to fuck Dipper?

Kek, what did he say? I thought he hated Pine incest art or whatever

>made a clone of dipper that wouldnt disagree with her
Yes

Obviously

What are the odds this show gets a special/miniseries? Mabel and Ford need a lot of fixing, while more Gideon and Wendy is never bad

You might be the world's only Gideon fan.