How strong would a Kryptonian/Saiyan hybrid be?

How strong would a Kryptonian/Saiyan hybrid be?

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Utterly broken. Superboy Prime would die from a simple glare.

As strong as an ant, if an ant were THIS big!

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Barely at all. Saiyans have to nearly die to get their power increase. Goku got so strong because of constantly cheating death.

How often has Superman been brought to a state of nearly dead? Not outsmarted, or defeated because he's trying to hold back and not just wreck everything, I mean flat out went whole ham and got laid out to a point of dying.
I can't imagine it's something larger than I can count on my hands.

Neh.

The Death of Superman arc. All his other "deaths" like Superbro's have been different.

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as strong as the plot needs them to be

>racemixing

Saiyan blood would just dilute the Kryptonian genes.

So you want an alien that gets stronger from getting his ass kicked near death AND just by standing in the sun?

Who would Luthor need to combine/have an offspring with in order to counter such a monstrosity?

>Saiyans have to nearly die to get their power increase.

That shit is only used as a dumb plot device like twice during the Namek shit and thats it. It's forgotten about after that and never mentioned again.

Toriyama is also notoriously forgetful when it comes to not only characters but their abilities both major and minor so most likely it hasn't been at play in any real way since then.

The most consistent strength boosts have always come from training.

Zenkai boost would barely matter for a Kryptonian/Saiyan hybrid: he would get all the kryptonian powers, strenght and durability in base form and could use the saiyan blood to go SSJ.
I also think the SSJ form could increase the strenght of the other superpowers(like heat vision), but there is no way to verify this

>That shit is only used as a dumb plot device like twice during the Namek shit and thats it. It's forgotten about after that and never mentioned again

Female Broly.

Only thing Kryptonians offer saying is

Intelligence
Eye beams
Ice breath
X-ray vision
Space travel

I don't think its really worth it considering they want to get their ass kicked to a certain degree for strength boosts and everything else they replicate. The green K weakness is also a downside as well.

I haven't seen the anime version of super but it gets abused hardcore in the super manga.

This, also Cell got a Zenkai boost after exploding on King Kai's planet.

Saiyans don't have even baseline invulnerability. They are fragile as fuck. When they pump up with Ki they get more durable but we've already seen Goku can be hurt with a normal goddamn rock, a bullet, or those shitty wrist lasers the Frieza goons use.

Remember that kid Goku, despite being a freakishly strong weirdo, still regularly got hurt by normal people using normal weapons. Not hurt badly, but usually because he was dodging or just kicking their asses instead of getting hurt.

On a scale of 1-100 of biological durability where humans are a 1, Saiyans are like a 3 and Kryptonians are a solid 90.

Anybody who says it wouldn't be broken is a fool. A kryptonian who can go SSJ levels is just broken.

Yes kryptonians have a baseline durability bonus. But again why would you want that when a big part of your power set is surviving near death experiences to come back twice as strong. Take for example Vegita on namek when he tried to get Krillean to fuck him up. Would have been impossible with a super aura.

I guess you could argue that you have to worry less about sniper bullets and other sneak attacks, but then you're just going to get nailed by krytponite bullets,bombs,etc.

but Durability was never their strong suite so its a moot point, destructive power is.

SSB Goku is far, far more destructive being than Superman could ever be (beyond Silver age goofy shit) the man could charge a beam and just swath it from side to side and destroy entire Solar systems with it.

I highly doubt Superman could really sustain much from Goku or Vegeta they are far faster and far better at fighting people near their own strength.

Kid Goku did shrug off magnum rounds and sniper bullets. They hurt like fuck but the worst they did was break his skin or knock him out.

Not as strong as Satania. She would not even have to use half her power to defeat a Kryptonian/Saiyan hybrid.

Is the manga any good?

> Saiyans
> 3
> Kid Goku gets shot in the face and goed "owie"


Sure m8

More importantly, would that hybrid be the result of superman fucking a female saiyan or goku getting a kryptonian girl pregnant?

This is actually really important, if Goku is the father then the offspring will be a worthless jobber

My standards are shit but so far its been enjoyable. It runs about 1 arc behind the anime making it perfect for binging.

>Goku getting raped by a kryptonian girl

Fixed. One advantage to add to hybrid list would be the solar soaking power would be highly advantageous in the long run (kingdom come, superman man 1 million).

He forgot about this again. Goku Black gets more power every time he got hit meanwhile Goku and Vegeta almost die like 3 times yet they don't get a single power boost. What's up with that?

that had nothing to do with his saiyan heritage and everything to do with granpa gohan training him in the basics of ki martial arts

there;s diminishing returns on zenkai boosts and both goku and vegeta hit their soft cap waay back in the frieza saga.

black wasn't quite getting stronger because of zenkai boosts, instead the therwise insignificant zenkai boosts were letting him acclimate to goku's body at an accelerated rate

>Goku can be hurt with a normal goddamn rock

Source?

It's really not mentioned in Super. Black got his ass beat and was able recover very fast and got stronger. He wasn't close to dying, just got beat up.

Besides, the true power boost is messing with their loved ones.

Doesn't really matter anymore but why the fuck didn't Vegeta go ssj2 when Cell killed Trunks and not go ssj3 will Beerus knocked out Bulma?

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This is worse than Goku jobbing to a laser cannon. Fucking farmer with a shotgun could kill Goku if he lets his guard down.

>space Elliot Roger

>Raw Kryptonian strength, speed, and endurance
>Saiyan ability to increase in strength whenever beaten near death as well as natural attunement to chi

Pretty much unbeatable on a cosmic scale. Imagine a Kryptonian Great Ape.

Does half kryptonian get power? It's sure for half-sayan but what about kryptonian.

Jon Kent is half kryptonian and he's pretty much Gohan as a kid.

A being that can gain massive power from yellow and blue suns and is able to multiply that power with the super saiyan transformations
I would say he would be pretty powerful

Or maybe it'd just get the shitty qualities of both. Like maybe it gets kryptonite weakness and unnameable cowlick.

underrated

That's filler you fucking retard, these superman and goku debates are always shit because people only know shit about one or the other

>get kryptonite
>just hang out near it once a day
>nearly kill yourself
>???
>profit

>y-you're just fucking with me.

>It's really not mentioned in Super
He says responding to the page where it's literally being mentioned.

It appears that user is kind of retarded.

There is no point being Saiyan if you're already Kryptonian. If anything it would be a handicap.

>Superman and Goku will never impregnate you at the same time.
>You'll never feel their sperm have a fighting tournament in your uterus to determine who will fertilize the egg.

It's consistent filler. When he has his guard down, anyone strong enough can surprise Goku and fuck him up. If a laser and a goddamn bullet can do it, then so can a rock thrown by an enhanced human like Krillin.

Too many ppl who comment on superman threads do not know how kryptonian physiology works. They evolved on a planet with higher gravity than earth (like saiyans) and metabolize solar energy. They use this energy as a "field" in and around them and can even alter it and project it. Kryptonians are also a species at "peak" evolution and science and were capable of any non diety type feat.

Yeah, Super Saiyan is such a handicap. Especially without needing to worry about it draining your energy thanks to the sun.

Everytime Supes would survive Kryptonite, he'd get even stronger.

>That shit is only used as a dumb plot device like twice during the Namek shit and thats it.

It also explains, in DB, how every single time Goku gets beaten up by some enemy, he can completely own them two episodes later after he healed.

>Is the manga any good?

Better than the idiocy that is the anime.

So he's going to show potential until he hits puberty, then job for the rest of his existence?

>Goku getting raped by a kryptonian girl
>one of the strongest fighters in the universe
>Raped by a girl with a weakness to green rocks

Come on

Superman casually flies from star to star, that's millions times faster than anything in Dragonball. He has also survived flying through a red sun, being squished between colliding planets and fucking supernovas.
Death battle analysis is often bullshit but their verdict on Goku vs Superman is fairly accurate.

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He has also outraced instant teleportation.

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His pure physical strength is also far beyond anything DB characters have shown.

Wonder Woman shrugs off nukes like nothing and her stats are significantly lower.

Depends on what kind of sun they're under.

You're so full of shit. It constantly gets used, even fucking cell get a zenkai boost after blowing himself up.

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He was boosted at that point in the plot, that's stronger than he usually is.

He's still able to moving the Earth from its orbit and the JLA version is weaker than post-Infinite Crisis or nu52.

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Finally he's a pretty good martial artist.

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A kryptonian great ape would be terror to the universe.

Will be combination of both. But not 100% of each side is one way to put it. Then again with the saiyan genes, training hard will be a thing. And with Krytonian genes, it will lessen the time to get stronger by a shit ton. Can be pretty broken af.

Being capable of going SSJ Sun God might be a nice perk.

They do behave similarly, except Jon is bit more willing to get his hands dirty.

You can't just turn super Saiyan, you have to have the power first, then you transform when it becomes too much and your body needs to evolve to contain it (or so we can reason out of the DB universe shenanigans)

Regarding super saiyan 3, it was never revealed just how it is achieved. Goku presumably just trained for years on end to get it and Gotenks has some magical nonsense reasoning. Whatever the case, it doesn't seem that it can be attained by rage (but I wouldn't be surprised if they ever go in that direction).

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SSJ2 is when you esstienally unlock Super Sayain while already Super Sayain. If regular SSJ is a power multiplier, SSJ2 compounds it exponentially

SSJ3 is pretty much overclocking one's body. It's sucking every last bit of ki out of every single cell and utilizing it, but as Goku demonstrated against Kid Buu it quickly tears you to shreds internally.

Superior Hybrid coming through.

THE ANIME

I guess I should've been more specific with that.

Stop nitpicking at his peak Superman 1 million can literally lift the entirety of the universe without any effort, has burst through the source wall and lifted literal infinity. Goku has trouble lifting weight a few hundred tons. Don't pick and choose "which Superman" because it's easily countered "RR army Goku".

He has all these abilities yet he loses to far inferior enemies.

Gohan was also willing to go into battle.

If Zamasu stole Clark's body, how powerful would a Superman Black be? When Zamasu stole Goku's body, he was stronger than Goku ever was and ended up using better abilities and hax.

Now imagine this dude mastering a Kryptonian body

Does sun soaking mean additional ki supply from solar energy?
Because if so the kids might go SSJ just by sunbathing for a few days.

>Half Saiyans were always hinted at having more potential
>The current Superman arc is hinting that half Kryptonians might have more potential too
>Under a yellow sun, Kryptonians get powers
>Saiyans are born with powers
>Training can boost Saiyan power exponentially
>His power will already be boosted by the yellow sun
>Transormations can occur too

He'd be 5x more powerful than Silver Age, AKA Prime

Going by future arcs, long time sun soaking leads to God level powers.

Kids going SSJ doesn't mean shit after Buu saga showed us Goten/Trunks doing it at the drop of a hat.

Yes

>Goku can be hurt with a normal goddamn rock
filler

They at least had to exert though. I'm talking passively hitting it just from the amount of ki buildup.

yea you need some strong shit to cut that tail

Same can be said about everything post DBZ.

you sound fucking stupid

Wouldn't a saiyan/kryptonian hybrid eventually gain a tolerance to kryptonite?

How do you differentiate canon and non-canon? GT was considered canon for the longest time and Toriyama had the exact same credit for it that he does for Super. The credit only say "original story" by Toriyama and Shuesha or whatever only have him as "overseeing" the story but never flat out saying he's writing anything. For all we know weaboos 20 years from now will put Super in the same category as GT.

>GT was considered canon for the longest time

>not going to conventions in the late 90's and 00's and hearing the weaboos, spics and niggers going on about ssj4 and Baby Vegeta like gospel

>GT was considered canon for the longest time
Said literally no one ever.