Is he one of the worst protagonists of the decade?

Is he one of the worst protagonists of the decade?

Shinji

But I thought...

Does he gain marks for once being tolerable, or lose marks because he fell from grace?

He was never tolerable.

One of.

I guess kids with stars on their clothing are terrible

>GOLLY GEE, MY BAITING WITH THIS EXACT FILE AND FILENAME GOT DELETED WITH THE THREAD I RUINED
>BETTER MAKE ANOTHER ONE
I hope you get cancer.

Worst? No. Most boring given the show he's in? Yes. How the fuck is he not spouting out question after question and demanding the Gems answer him after the whole Diamond Zoo bullshit. At least before you could say he didn't want to know or he didn't want to bother the gems, but for fuck's sake, he's even admitting to a Rose hologram how frustrated he is and is coming to terms that he needs to face this shit. Start demanding some answers, Steven. Ask mother fucking Peridot to tell you all about Homeworld, she'll do it and not hide any secrets him Steven. She'd probably love to talk about it.

That wasn't why the thread was deleted but go ahead and believe that. You've already proved yourself to be extremely butthurt that people don't like your husbando.

No, we must make Steven stupid and the show boring as possible because
>muh comfy

I ALWAYS GET WHAT I WANT!

I think he was. For a while he was less of a wuss, and was willing to fight back against invaders instead of crying and trying to hug them. He also fought with the Crystal Gems when they tried to stop him from freeing Lapis.

Mabel is funny though.

>How the fuck is he not spouting out question after question and demanding the Gems answer him after the whole Diamond Zoo bullshit.

That's what exactly what he was doing BEFORE the Diamond Zoo bullshit. And his search for answers led to his dad getting kidnapped and everyone almost dying.

It's likely that Steven feels guilty and is avoiding asking questions for a while because anytime he does, it leads to disaster.

But it's gonna happen again sooner or later.

>And his search for answers led to his dad getting kidnapped and everyone almost dying.

Again, why not just ask Peridot who has intense knowledge of the history of Homeworld + knows about current Homeworld? The Gems are giving him round about answers, but they're not the only Gems on the planet. He might not want to bother Lapis, but Peridot is totally game to answer Steven the best of her ability. She fucking loves sharing her knowledge.

To me, the truly defining moment for the character was in the test episode, were it shows that Steven's concept of caring is extremely shallow and inoffensive, essentially making him for lack of better term, a patsy and a huge doormat for everyone in the end, despite any bravado or actual strength he displays.
If he truly cared about the Crystal Gems, he would have called out their bullshit right there. "Lets do what makes everyone happy" isn't a leader thing. A leader takes control of the situation he's in.

A leader knows when morale of the team needs to be boosted. He set aside his own petty problems to give the Gems a confidence boost to help them in the long run.

Morality is meaningless without honest discourse. The Gems are supposed to be Steven's family, he should be insulted that the Gems don't think he can't handle anything.
Building bonds on lies just falls apart sooner or later.

Dipper is the protag. If she was, she'd beat out SU for worst though.

Maybe we'll find out in 40 episodes when they decide to get the plot going again.

So the main problem that everyone here seems to have about Steven is he's not fighting bad guys and you guys really should realize how weird of a criticism that is. The shows not about beating up bad guys. It's about making friends with angry people. It uses the trappings of 90s Shonen and Shojo where most obstacles are defeated with a combination murder punching and friendship lasers but instead of murder punching and friendship lasers we just get...friendship. Of everything. It's probably gonna get darker for a bit cause we're in the Empire Strikes Back phase but we're seriously never gonna get Mega-Steven punching Ruby's heads off and Steven will always be overtly emotional because in this show that is a strength and though it is a burden it's not something Steven will "get over" so he can poof rando background baddies while you get pumped up for the main fight.

tldr; This show ain't for you nigga

You are too autistic to ever be placed in charge of other human beings.

>Confuses morale for morality
nigga

I like you and I'm subscribing to your interwebzinevlog

I'm sorry to disappoint you but all I do is post memes on facebook and see how many mods I can throw on Bethesda games till they crash immediately upon starting a new game. So far I've gotten Skyrim to rain dragon corpses after reaching the Throat of the World. No idea what makes that happen.

>So the main problem that everyone here seems to have about Steven is he's not fighting bad guys and you guys really should realize how weird of a criticism that is.

What? Where did you get that from? And where did you get that people want "Mega-Steven punching Ruby's heads off"? Are you going to talk about toxic masculinity next?

It seems to me that you made up a fake easy to defeat argument in hopes of escaping critisism

This is where I got that idea. Anyways let's talk, what's your problems. I got time.

You misspelled best their, champ

>their

This character, I think, is inexcusably horrible. So much so that he made a show with lots of cute characters and great voice actors laughably insufficient, just through his worthlessness as a protagonist.

Steven, at the very least, tries not to ruin everything all the time, and has some decent skills to help his friends.

I guess steven's problem as a character is the same problem that every character in SU has: it depends entirely on the boarder and if the plot requires them to be brain dead

Well that's the other thing I think SU has tricked everyone into believing. It's just a Slice of Life comedy show that sometimes has "lore" episodes. I mean fucking Garnet played Beat Meat for like a week or so straight.

It's probably a combination of having a bunch of cooks in the kitchen but characters vary in legitimately every way they can from episode to episode, character models to character motives. It's kind of like a looney tunes cartoon where everyone cries a lot. I think they should either choose to be this big LORE series like ATLA or be a sorta Japanese SoL show like that Dragon Maid show.

Any response or am I ranting to myself now?

yes, because he is barely a protagonist
most of the show he just hangs back and lets the gems do the work, every once in a while he will shield them from a lazer.
there are 2 types of episodes.
episodes where a problem occurs (usually caused by steven touching some ancient technology) and the gems have to fix it
or episodes where steven fucks around in beach city doing boring shit, the gems usually aren't even in the episode.

why even have steven as a character? why not make the show about 3 gems saving earth from the alien invaders? steven always feels tacked on in every gem centric episode.

>Well that's the other thing I think SU has tricked everyone into believing.

What the fuck are you talking about? Tricked? Are you saying they were only pretending to be retarded?

As for the rest, yeah, i agree, if i had to define SU in one word it would be "Inconsistent"

...

First what do you mean by retarded? Second I mean they made everyone think they were a show that they ended up not being.

It was a convination of SoL and monster of the week for its first season, then at the end it had a story aparently, and then they forget they had a story every few episodes, its just a mismanaged show, the tricked part would be real if they had the firsts 2 or 3 episodes being about magical boy adventure and the rest of the 200 episodes being about hardcore fucking lesvian porn, that would be a twist

Also by retarded i meant so express "they don't have a clue about what they're doing and clearly its not intentional"

Oh well yea I agree with you. Badly managed show and nobody seems to have a clue what they're building too. Remind me of the Threeboot Legion comic where one guy asked all the different Legion members what the Legion means and all of them have crazy different ideas about it.

I think this show has merit tho. I'm fucking gay as fuck tho so it might just be me being like "fuck if this show was around when I was 8 I wouldn't have thought I was the devil".

Stfu. Star is cute.

Yes, totally.

The power of friendship is a good power to have, but you can't just replace action and ass-kickery with it and hope it would work.

Because it wouldn't. Not for a protagonist, if you care about keeping your protagonist likeable.

>I think this show has merit tho.

It does have but its all over the place and we are at the point where the bad is outshining the good becouse of stupid choices the staff makes

i was actually suprised at how good this show became
I thought it was going to be a generic magic girl show where star always beats the idiotic villain
then she started losing battles it brought actual tension to the show, something thats rare in western cartoons.

In cartoons? Finn or Mordecai maybe.

She's the deuteragonist

Get in line, kid.

Easily her. The whole show is basically about how great and perfect she is.

No, I love him, because he's the perfect depiction of a child who's well-adjusted.

No, I love him, because he's the perfect depiction of a child who's not well-adjusted.

You guys have shit taste.

no offence against shinji, he depicts vulnerable badass pretty well

but i prefer a more stalwart, level headed, and above all professional hero, like the kind you see in battletech or warhammer

Y'know, if you gonna call him a faggot, minus will put a picture of him from that one episode when he cross-dressed, I think your point will get across much better.

>Steven Cryingverse
>a fucking teenager at this point
>well-adjusted

Everything he does makes him look like a fag.

Kitty toes

Thats not star butterfly

Strange, that's not Lincoln.

Underrated post.

look at this yahoo, i bet he's straight.

No, I'd say he is one of the best!
He is loveable
He likes everyone but smart about it.
He isn't totally stupid
He is actually learning and getting more mature as the series goes.
Sure, he still makes stupid mistakes sometimes, but this is the boy, who never went to school! Also, he is 14 years old, but he's been stuck in the body of like 9 y/o, because before Connie he never really contacted with a child of his age. Everyone in beach city are either older or younger than him.

Do you even know what "pacing" is?
The show is actually pretty consistent
After a bunch if WHAM-episodes you are supposed to let the audience to calm down
After heavy episodes there should be light episodes
After lore or story episodes, there should be slice or character development episodes.
If the show is full on action-story-lore-drama it would just get stale!
But slice of life episodes just make us care more for characters when something actually happens to them.

no contest.
It pushes the "it's ok to be shit if you are the writters self insert" to a whole new level.

>He is loveable
subjective
>He likes everyone but smart about it.
he is opposite of smart
>He isn't totally stupid
What an accomplishment
>He is actually learning and getting more mature as the series goes.
it seems that way but then he is randomly reset for some eps

Not even close. He used to be great but the writers ruined him

>The decade

>All the male characters in SU are getting poon on a regular basis (even lars)
>some have to beat pussy off with a stick (greg)
Why does Sup Forums still hate it?

Man you guys really hate this picture don't you?

No he's one of the best. It's not his fault the writers keep focusing on awful side characters.

>implying pussy is the be all end all
>implying its not just lies for male feminists

>of the decade?
Jesus christ, the decade's almost over. Time flies

Post-Season 3 Finn says hello

Bitch please

Also Evangelion was 20+ years ago

He's got a girlfriend, so this faggot already has one up on you.

That's the fastest way to tell the age of a person. If they put having sex as the epitome of accomplishment then they are still teens/manchildren

At least Korra has good porn.

not really, hes alright

>Gets outsmarted by a Ruby

Everyone got outsmarted by a Ruby

Yes, I do agree that this is indeed true

Lapis was skeptical as shit

Garnet just let it happen

Actually, considering how Garnet brought two different balloons, it seems that there was a pretty good possibility for Steven to actually recruit Ruby.

>Steven asks Peridot about homeworld
>Moments later Peridot is lazored from space, and vaporized

That's not Star "ruins everything and is a piece of shit worse than even S1 steven jewniverse holy fucking dipshiting shit" Butterfly

The difference is she suffers a lot as a character

A shit protagonist never gets what's coming to them

user, Evangelion was three hundred years ago.

his search for answers only happened because Garnet didn't tell him Blue Diamond was going to be at the thing despite knowing full well that's how it was going to play out, aka PLOT.

>The difference is she suffers a lot as a character

and steven doesnt?

It does happen but it never really stays with him

Actually, no.

>pacing makes it so only 1 episode in 4 is good

Just look at OP gif, Steven is designed to bring the sadist in everybody, you want to fucking punch him in the face, you want to see him suffer.

No, he's the best representation of the decade. The same way XTREME roid beasts/Spawn were representations of the 90s.

korra

Dude, not having action doesn't make an episode bad

>what is mindful education
>what is roses room
>what is bubbled

user they obviously mean that if he's not constantly whining about it, then it's not affecting him.

but he is too fucking trusting even after getting played so often, by seemingly everyone.

what about the episode in which steven has problems when fused because of all the shit he had to endure in previous episodes?

>may or may not be his dead mom
>idolizes said mom but is forced to come to terms with the fact she is a murderer
>forced to deal with the consequences of her actions
>forced to hurt people
>kidnapped twice
>father got kidnapped
>almost died a bunch of times

Except for the part where it's not acknowledged ever again. Ever

He is to dumb to even realize these.

He needs to insert some vegetables into himself. The fatass.

Gee, I sure am jealous I don't have a no chin poo in the loo.