>“Different universes, different worlds, different companies, different designs. Kevin Feige is very specific about how he wants the Marvel Universe to be seen in the film world,” Mackie explained. “It wouldn’t work. It wouldn’t work at all.”
Wouldn't want actual plot, actual villians and stakes to sully your by the numbers extremely non offensive quips
Adrian Gomez
Just googled it to be sure and yes he was, Iron Fist was posing as Daredevil at the time.
Carter Foster
Wait, in the comic? I thought you were talking about the movie.
Jace Cook
Feige hasn't come out and said it the shows still continue to reference the movies.
Is it possible the movie actors are just dicks and are like no your shitty netflix show doesn't count only the movies with the real Hollywood actors count.
Daniel Cook
In the interview they talk about Daredevil in Civil War that is what I was referring to, so yes the comic.
Tyler Rogers
That's absolutely the case. Even in the golden age of T.V you have these pretentious shits look down on anything not showing in theatres. It doesn't matter thanks to AoS we have had some crossover with the MCU tv. Not as much as I'd like but enough to make everything canon. So fuck that uppity nigger.
Oliver Rivera
>An Avengers star.
Can't be a star if their name wasn't worth the headline.
Logan Taylor
Nice try.
Aaron Perry
It's All Connected was a mistake. DC, as usual, did it the right way.
Brody Price
It's tough. I'm a DC fag and I don't really follow the MTVU but I know theres not one single redeemable quality for any of the CW actors. Netflix may be different (to me it just seems they take it "serious" as opposed to DCTV) but I personally agree that TV actors don't belong on the big screen. Generally they suck.
They're the calarts artists of acting; not the best or most beautiful but they show up every day and end the week with a product.
Jayden Taylor
Given the lack of quality control the TV shows have, this is probably for the best.
Liam Cruz
NON-CANON
Tyler Watson
But DC fans say its all connected all the time.
Matthew Smith
Good.
Jayden Kelly
Green Arrow proved that with his awful Casey Jones
Aaron Flores
Did you fucks even read the article?
The guy's quoting Anthony Mackie, the Falcon. You think The Falcon is necessary or present for high level talks like crossovers? Guy's probably scared as shit that's the only place his character's gonna show up with Falcap being so political.
Cameron Allen
>Iron Fist movie is now possible yes please
Sucks for DD though, it works pretty well in a serialised format
Andrew Torres
Even if he didn't say this, it's been obvious for a long time the two would never cross over.
Jayden Morgan
Dude is a Trump supporter, so Falcap being political won't bother him.
Kayden Murphy
To be fair hes just a terrible pick for Casey Jones in general.
Not all the Netflix guys are great but some of them are good enough you could throw them a cameo spot in a movie.
What really annoys me is Marvel doesn't even bother to get a proper movie hero to cameo once in anything. You can't get Mark Ruffalo for a single episode of Agents of Shield. He doesn't even need to turn into the Hulk just play Bruce Banner you could never organise that.
If these universes are infact being kept seperate what happens when down the road they go fuck i really want to have DareDevil be in this Spider-man movie do they go get the Netflix actor that people know and are established with what hes done or do they go no fuck that lets just cast our own and ignore it.
Colton Jenkins
They've said this a million times. Why are fanboys so stupid that they get it by now?
Joseph Roberts
They shouldn't cast Cox.
Why carry the baggage of some other writer/directors choices if you don't have to? New actor, better suit, means your own material (even if it's adaptive).
Joseph Ross
>You can't get Mark Ruffalo for a single episode of Agents of Shield. He doesn't even need to turn into the Hulk just play Bruce Banner you could never organise that.
These actors are fucking expensive and not willing to take a downgrade in pay for an episode of network television. The moment they do that, it hurts future negotiation power for future projects with other studios. These actors won't admit that, but it really is business politics and branding.
Carson Thomas
I think many people have rosy fantasies of "If I do this episode for free or cheap and then make this appearance here for cheap they'll definitely keep that in mind when my contract's up."
Hollywood doesn't do that. I don't blame actors for not going the extra mile for some fan's enjoyment.
Grayson Scott
Bingo, we would be better off casting Adam Sandler as a character to tie it all together. He would do it for shots and giggles.
Jose Hughes
Marvel/Disney have the fucking money to go heres a nice fucking check do an episode.
At best you get a nice ratings bump and some more people watching it at worst you didn't gain anything from it i am sure Disney's bottom line won't be destroyed by that.
But then why have the universe if Directors can independently go nah i want my own guy and costume.
Joshua Campbell
Shame. Mordo hunting down the Immortal Weapons and the Ghost Riders would have been pretty cool.
Jayden Brown
This isn't the studio system of the golden age Hollywood. Even IF Disney ponies up a huge paycheck for a cameo, it's damaging to the actors brand. The performer has an obligation to themselves and their team to remain at a certain level. Network television is still seen as poison by many studios and it's a barrier that is very difficult to crossover into.
It's not JUST about money, it's about protecting your brand and staying in your lane. Doing a low budget indie is seen as respectable. Doing an ABC network show is seen as laughable and desperate.
Them's the breaks.
Benjamin Phillips
>Marvel/Disney have the fucking money to go heres a nice fucking check do an episode.
they have that money because they DON'T do that. Do that for one star they all want it. Learn about negotiation sometime.
>But then why have the universe if Directors can independently go nah i want my own guy and costume.
That's literally the point I made. it's not a shared universe. So that they can do what they want. if it was shared they would not be able to.
funny thing is, with all of the Ultimate influence on the MCU netflix fans can act superior and say the MTVU is the real universe.
Liam Long
So Hollywood actors are all just cunts who think they are too big for anything.
Matthew Roberts
I can't imagine, does this still matter to some people?
Cops and shit don't interact with the military, you're never gonna have a crossover where some Louisiana cop interacts with soldiers off in some god forsaken shithole. Why should shit like the avengers deal with some shitty new york gang politics when they deal with gods or robots or whatever?
And it's not like said godly struggles or whatever should take away from the personal struggles that the people dealing with gangs and criminals deal with.
Isaac Hernandez
Again, you're attacking employees for the problems of their industry.
it's not about actors being cunts. It's about actors wanting a scorcese movie down the line and thinking (maybe rightfully so) that they'll be skipped over for being a network TV actor.
Juan Reed
It's not that they're cunts (many are, mind you) it's that they have to play the game. It's a cut throat business where branding and image matter more than actual talent and "passion" in most cases. You're always as good as your last job, that's the saying and it's true. This is why if you end up starring in a string of bombs or do a lifetime movie, all of a sudden you stop getting calls. This is the game.
David Rivera
>the golden age of T.V Can't wait for this forced meme to die.
Landon Mitchell
But Netflix isn't Network tv, tons of actors get famous after being on HBO. Don't see why Netflix is any different then that.
Henry Flores
>Marvel/Disney have the fucking money to go heres a nice fucking check do an episode. I'd rather they spend that on the shows themselves (which have a relatively limited budget already) rather than just splurging it all on a cameo to appease canon-obsessed faggots.
Also Ike.
Jonathan Wood
If you want to be considered for a Scorsese movie down the line maybe playing a super hero in a fucking summer blockbuster isn't the right idea. Why wouldn't he pick the better actor that went for the Oscar bait that year instead.
Jace Flores
Does anyone have that pic of all the award-winning actors in the MCU? Schlock blockbusters still don't have as bad a stygma as TV.
Oliver Kelly
Just fucking stop faggot. My point was clear.
Brayden Murphy
Netflix is considered new media and because of that the rules haven't been firmly established. This is why a shit fit is thrown whenever a Netflix or Hulu show is nominated or wins an award. There's a tier system and television and film feel threatened by new media. Even if your material is critically acclaimed, your dealing outside of the traditional system. It's very much how Radio and film felt when television came around.
Lincoln Hughes
Marvel should cross over the films and TV because it's the last barrier left to do. I mean, after GOTG meet the Avengers, what's left is there to merge?
Aaron Wood
you nerds are still arguin over this shit huh
Caleb Jenkins
Because old media has to put up with the FCC. Its the same shit fit they throw over HBO.
It sucks for NCIS that they have harsher rules than Homeland. I actually think Harmon and a few other characters could make a really great show if they didn't have censors.
Adrian Stewart
>Different universes, different worlds, different companies, different designs
literally what the fuck? it was said right at the beginning that Agents of SHIELD and the Netflix shows were connected to the movies
I mean I hate the MCU even though I still watch it but am I just understanding this wrong or is he actually saying all the shows aren't canon? That would be a straight up middle finger to the fans
Easton Garcia
Maybe they just don't use Daredevil in a movie for awhile? Like the only important TV guys we've got consist of Murdock, Jones, Cage, Rand, Colson, and Mockingbird. They could go decades delivering satisfying stories without ever touching on these guys in the movies an the only people who would notice and be upset are autists on Chinese finger painting forums. Are people really that thirsty for Daredevil to get his shit kicked in by the Avengers?
Daniel Ward
Where have you been?
Seriously.
Even if they said that shit in 08 it hasn't been true for a while. Since Daredevil came out we knew this.
Seriously, how can someone like you exist? You post on Sup Forums and get surprised by someone essentially telling you the sky is blue?
Josiah Martin
Agents of SHIELD and Agent Carter had some connection to the MCU if only because they were created by MCU writers.
But the Netflix shows are from different teams and appeared after Feige had fought, and won, the battle to get the MCU completely separate from the rest of Marvel (and fire Perlmutter, Loeb, Quesada etc. from having input on the movies).
So I don't think it's a creative thing, more a turf war. They might have some Netflix character cameos in the MCU someday but Feige can barely hide his contempt for the TV division.
Which is why the Inhumans, Marvel Publishing's pet project, was dropped from the movie schedule and switched to TV soon after Feige got more power.
Owen Flores
I'll be happy with some cameo, D'Onofrio maybe with a small role in Spiderman, not as main villain, Cox or Bernthal a couple of minutes in screen something like that, doesn't have to be a crossover
Jeremiah Lopez
BASED
Jack Powell
>after Feige had fought, and won, the battle to get the MCU completely separate from the rest of Marvel (and fire Perlmutter, Loeb, Quesada etc. from having input on the movies). spoonfeed me some links here, I don't disbelieve you I just want more
Top kek, coulson and friends don't exist as far as the true MCU is concerned but whatever helps you sleep at night
Landon Bennett
They did get Samuel Jackson though. But he'll do anything.
Jeremiah Price
I understand that, but that doesn't mean the Netflix characters can't show up in the movies.
Of course there's other reasons why they won't.
Wyatt Lopez
And that's why you contractually obligate an actor to at least one television role for every movie role, with a negotiated understanding this has no bearing on their bankability in future productions.
Bake that into the contract from the start with everyone aware of what's happening, and everyone's good
Caleb Young
I don't think I've ever seen them do that. There's at least four different DC universes on TV right now.
Ryder Wright
It just keeps happening!
Asher Barnes
>Iron Fist movie is now possible Hahaha
They'll make seven Dr strange reboots before iron fist ever hits the big screen.
Jack Gray
>Cops and shit don't interact with the military What a stupid fucking analogy. Cops are restricted by their jurisdictions. Dudes who can fly and aren't controlled by the gubment are free to go wherever they want.