>retconning Gwen's magic into alien bullshit >retconning Kevin's powers into alien bullshit >retconning Hex's powers into alien bullshit >making Gwen bland >making Kevin bland >making Gwen and Kevin's powers visually unimpressive and having no creativity to do cool things with them >crappy art style and animation >making Vilgax and Ghostfreak useless and uninmposing >giving Ben ten new aliens which are just improved and fused versions of his previous aliens, making his older, cooler designs useless >the fucking terrible plot
Chase Bell
bump
Benjamin Hughes
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Jeremiah Flores
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Liam Bailey
I was gonna reply to this thread, then I saw these posts.
Wait, fuck
Carson Brown
Don't forget
>making Ben bland
A boring main character is a terrible thing
Benjamin Robinson
>implying Ben wasn't an insufferable piece of shit before
Bentley Watson
Omniverse fixed everything
Colton Garcia
>insufferable piece of shit At least it's not boring.
Sebastian Howard
How is this Ben boring?
Brandon Jackson
Not only fixed, but greatly improved.
Hudson Sullivan
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Juan Young
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Noah Allen
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Ayden Stewart
I actually kind of liked where they went with Kevin's character.
Ben's character was almost good, but he was just a bit too bland, if he had a bit more personality I would have liked it a lot more.
Everything else you mentioned was fucking unforgivable though.
It's weird, I actually really liked the tone that I think Alien Force set out for, but it ended up being so shit at it.
Hunter Peterson
Didn't Omniverse have some shitty asspull retcons too? As well as eventually pairing up Ben with Worst Girl despite having previously introduced a far superior love interest for him?
John Morales
Gwen still uses magic, she Kevin a few times when he says it's her powers. Kevin was always an alien and I disagree with your statement about blandness and lack of creativity. These are lies, omniverse was terrible.
Wyatt Cook
>Ben's character was almost good, but he was just a bit too bland, if he had a bit more personality I would have liked it a lot more. The problem was that every time Ben started to mature a bit, they hit the reset button and turned him back into the kid who lets his inflated ego fuck things up again.
Owen Carter
*fights Kevin
Kayden Nguyen
Kevin was a mutant. Mutants are just a thing in Ben 10. At least the original series
Also your universe becomes all the more constricted when Ben's watch can only scan alien dna
Jace Cruz
Fuck you, Omniverse was great. The only decline was in the art and it was still a hell of a lot better than most modern shows.
Liam Lopez
Omniverse's most blatant retcons were usually attempts at explaining away Alien Force's stupid retcons.
Angel Morris
She uses magic but it's alien magic, not human magic. Kevin was a human mutant in the original.
Luis Cooper
Kevin is a human with powers un both OS and Omniverse
Gavin Jenkins
I never watched ben10 I stopped watching cartoons around the time it came out, Is this worth watch or is it too juvenile?
(I have a TF fetish)
Michael Gutierrez
So I never understood the Gwen thing, did magic just seriously never exist in the first place? Were those magic villains she learned magic from just faking it, or were they aliens too?
David Bailey
No, Spidey! NO!!
Adam Rogers
In the original series, it was all magic.
In AF, Gwen and the villains were all aliens.
Brody Phillips
They got their power from alien artifacts.
Then later the creators got tired of people bitching about it all the time, so magic was a thing again and Gwen's powers were just augmenting her magic.
Jose Howard
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Cooper Bennett
I'll take your word that he was a mutant originally as I don't actually remember, however, I still think that him being an alien was good, especially his criminal life in space and prison. However Gwen still uses magic, that's just a fact.
Caleb Ross
>everything
Kevin Lopez
Gwen is part alien, and her grandmother's species are aliens that are literally made out of magic.
Hex and Charmcaster are humans from a weird magic dimension where everybody knows how to use spells.
Or at least that's how they finally worked out the "magic" thing to be.
Luke Miller
did they really animate a battle to cram in as many fetishes as possible?
Henry Watson
>Original and Omniverse Magic, witches and sorcerers are a real thing
>Alien force and Ultimate alien Aliens and shit
Aaron Cruz
>making Gwen bland >making Kevin bland
What? Its not like Kevin and Gwen weren't bland in the original series. Gwen was just a bitch originally and Kevin had absolutely nothing to his character outside of being an evil version of Ben before AF. Both were massive improvements compared to their OG versions.
Thomas Smith
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Caleb Evans
Why is omniverse Ben so perfect?
Noah Scott
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Brody Baker
Because you have bad taste.
Blake Peterson
>making every episode be set at night
You missed one.
Aiden Harris
Oh god no
Owen Campbell
THIS!
Liam Gutierrez
Omniverse was perfection
Jordan Ortiz
That is already ALLOT more personality than what UAF gave them
your supposed "improvement" just took away the little personality they had
James Gutierrez
>being this much of a fag
cut off your dick you do not deserve it
Eli Martin
Omniverse was the closest that the show got to hit its full potential.
Kevin Robinson
No, OS was the closest the show got to hit its full potential.
Omniverse just pulled retcon after retcon and introduced more time travel bullshit.
Carter Lopez
>multiverse shenanigans >space travels >TTGL tier battles >much more aliens >aliens and humans living together >crossovers
It was the best in regard to originality in my opinion, OS is a close second.
Austin Reyes
This.
Omniverse felt like Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy mixed with super hero show.
Wyatt Gomez
I can appreciate it, but I feel like it jumped the shark a whole lot compared to OS. Well, I guess AF started it, so it isn't Omniverse's fault.
Luke Cruz
That Kingdom Hearts cartoon is looking good
Parker Wright
Omniverse was better than OS
Angel Barnes
>Holy fuck what the fuck was this show's problem? Somehow making Gwen sexually unattractive.
Brayden Long
These are AWFUL. Her expression just won't move from super-bland.