Cast him

cast him

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I like Bernie and I'm still mad the DNC fucked him over

cuck

larry david with a cgi hunchback 2bh

paul giamatti is good at playing raving lunatics who don't understand politics and want the world to be like communist russia

>communist russia
yeah, but, would that be a bad thing?

considering quality of life and GDP substantially improved after the fall I'd say no

He's a Democratic Socialist, though.
Even on a fundamental level, that's very different to the kind of National Communism implemented in the Soviet Union.

But net neutrality should be repealed.

Yes, crack a book sometime
Starvation, gulags, and secret police are a fuckload worse than microaggressions

The LotR tax meme is a /tg/ meme, you fucking moron.

He didn't sell out to the telecoms but he did sell out to Hillary Clinton, who screwed him out of the nomination and then stole all of his campaign funds, and then blamed him for losing the election.

Swell guy. If you like total, corrupt, hypocrite pussies.

are berniefags the most naive idiots to have existed? even le hippy granny isnt as bad

Bernie>Trump>Hillary

Trump has more surface level hilarity, but Bernie would have delivered the laughs of the ages, I feel.
Hillary's just an old cunt, that gets old fast.

im not sure bernie would have even survived a term as president

THE TOP 1 PERCENT TAKE EVERYTHING

WE NEED TO HAVE FREE EVERYTHING FOR POOR PEOPLE

I DON'T UNDERSTAND ECONOMICS

>Starvation, gulags, and secret police
All problems with the people in power, not the idea itself.

Have some faith in the old kike.
At the very least, it would have been glorious.

>it's not true communism!!
every single time

This, workers of the world unite!

I don't know what's so hard to understand about that. One of the few examples of communism is always attached and stigmatized because of the brutality of the regime, not that communism was inherently flawed. The west just uses the regime as an excuse to say the idea isn't worth it, which is bullshit. I'm not even a wannabe commy and I understand this. Democracy is highly overrated.

Then don't be such a complete fucking idiot next time.

You're comparing completely separate political ideologies, in completely separate nations, in completely separate situations. To pretend they'll be exactly the same is just stupid.

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communism can not exist without government control, government control always lead to abuse of control and economic downfall

what's hard to get, there has never been a successful communist government, it's been tried over and over in all parts of the world and yet somehow its never communisms fault

>pretend a system where the end goal is to be is rich as possible is a feasible means of supporting a global population
>works for me, at least I'm not a malaysian sweatshop worker, maybe I'll win the lottery someday and finally live above my means, just like the Kardashians!

Sickening.

Only Bane was free. Dr Pavel was the reason they were there.

Economics don't work they way they work now. I want more power for me and the other individuals in my community so we can make more creative choices in what we buy.

>communism can not exist without government control
*Socialism. Try to get the broad strokes of the ideology before you criticize it.

>there has never been a successful communist government
Communism has never been nationally implemented anywhere for us to determine if it was successful or not.

>it's been tried over and over in all parts of the world
The vast majority of those attempts were part of the Marxist-Leninist-X line of thinking. Unsurprisingly, when the Soviet Union is a world superpower, they can influence other countries on the verge of socialism to follow their brand of thinking.

>and yet somehow its never communisms fault
Are we ignoring the West's efforts to comprehensively ensure that these countries were unable to participate in the global market?

Absolute bullshit. The only examples of communism are countries rife with overpopulation and a lack of infrastructure to support them.

>Exxon, pls take my money, my wife and my children, you deserve it more because you create jaaaahbs!

Careful on sucking that corporate cock, cowboy, it won't give you much money.

>substantially improved after the fall.

Don't say that in Russia if you don't want to pick your teeth from the asphalt.

Berniefags are naive and idealistic, which is why he has beachfront property and they have tuition debt.

communism is murder

Didn't Bernie get millions of dollars in donations for his campaign run last year?

I think Berniefags are simply evil. Where do they get off telling the ultra rich of this country, who are already forking over nearly 40% of their income to the government, aren't paying their "fair share". Fuck that, you're not entitled to anyone else's money.

>Berniefags are naive and idealistic
Because he wanted to make the US similar to European nations in terms of social welfare and quality of life?

I suppose a pointless border wall with Mexico, with a cost into the tens of billions, is far more practical and less idealistic though.

>One of the few examples of communism is always attached and stigmatized because of the brutality of the regime, not that communism was inherently flawed.
Do you allow capitalists the same excuses?

better red than dead, any day, anywhere
any time, everywhere.
if he would get in office you would get a taste of jews & russian style Bolshevism
wich i do actually hope
amerimutts are not even white anymore so i guess you get your (you)s for the day with this.

>Starvation

>burn your crops and kill your cattle because "muh government will take small part of it"
>starve
>government still takes what they planned, in the same amount, only now it's not "a small part", but almost everything.
>REEEEEEEEE FUCKING COMMIES

>gulags

There is only one gulag, you fucking negroid. Prison camps they are. And in GuLAG, more likely, worked the faggots that bitch the most about it, as always.

>and secret police

Only cucks don't have one.

> corporations are the problem

An oppressive state regime is murder, the ideology used doesn't matter.

Lmfao, there are fags here LITERALLY arguing that communism always fails not because of its intrinsic contradictions but because ‘muh bad actors’

Honestly, I can immediately tell you’ve never traveled. I spent a good deal of time in Cuba, and it’s absolutely unavoidable how the very nature of the venture breeds corruption, laziness, learned helplessness, poverty, and self-debasement (literally 9 out of 10 Cuban girls will prostitute themselves to tourists, it’s called jimiturismo)

You not only haven’t traveled, you haven’t spent any time in any significant power structure. If you had, there’s no way you’d be humiliating yourselves like this

It's possible to avoid taxes, especially if you hve to the money to hire someone to help you navigate the loopholes
Just look at apple

I didn't say Democracy was worse, only overrated... which it is. No doubt in a perfect world, Democracy and Communism would both work equally well. The arguments against communism have always been propaganda spread by non-communist nations to undermine it's effectiveness, especially when the people arguing against it are just as rich and powerful as those in communist leadership positions, and have just as much to lose.

> you would get a taste of jews

So nothing would change with America, kek.

>quality of life and GDP substantially improved

From 1 potato to 1 1/4 potato?

Ask yourself, is it not far more likely that a system that relies on useful idiots to bring it into place has nefarious motives?

Sup Forums - Television & Not Real Communism

56% face is the best and worst meme of 2017. As a polish/hungaryan american I cant help but be a little bit triggered but as a shitposter it is pure 100% gold material.

>It's possible to avoid taxes
Good. I'm paying too fucking much. I don't like Trump, but if he hasn't paid taxes for decades, I want to shake his fucking hand.

>Cuba is poor because Communism
>It has NOTHING to do with the West embargoing their economy :^)

You can travel to plenty of poor Capitalist and Democratic nations and see the same. But in that case, it's not the fault of the ideology, now is it?

>Because he wanted to make the US similar to European nations in terms of social welfare and quality of life?
I wonder why they didn't just move to Europe if it is such a paradise. Poor somalians are doing it, but some "privileged" Americans can't?

lol

Excuse me

>DA JOOS are the problem
>Everyone that acts in self-interest,, but in a way it triggers me is DA JOO

Spoken like a true cuck.
But considering that you bitch the most about kulaks in USSR, It's understandable that you don't mind jewish practices like usury.
You just get triggered that jews use them.

If all that’s bad why do you fags ask for an authoritarian govt run by cult of personality?

>Starvation

Starving from being poor isn't that different from starving because no food is available

>gulags

What are CIA blacksites/ Gunatanamo Bay?

>secret police

What is the NSA?

Same goes for most boards here. The trap houses and leftypols and what not are constantly making political threads to try and divert discussion their way.

Again, you're mistaking and applying the faults of the regime to the idea. To say the west, and especially the US, doesn't have "nefarious motives" with it's own government leadership, whether it's true or not, would get you laughed off Sup Forums. It's all conjecture.

This post really got me thinking

I have a buddy who is a berniefag, and whenever I see him I always pretend like I'm reading an article on my phone and go, "Huh. Did you read this article? It called, "Here's how Bernie can still win."

He eventually stopped returning my phone calls to hang out about 4 months ago and his sister says that he's apolitical now.

Tens of billions is a rounding error, my good teenager. An utterly insignificant allotment - all of which would be given to American contractors - to permanently secure our southern border from the several hundred thousands illegally crossing it each and every year
Trump does a lot of dumb shit but if you honestly have a problem with the border wall, you’re a complete rube and lost to lazy propaganda

>all his predictions from the 1980s came true despite all the Republicans and Democrats laughing at him
>he doesn’t understand economics
We’re at pre-Great Depression levels of economic inequality, that isn’t sustainable

You can ask this of anyone complaining about any political issue.
Not everyone wants to move, emigrating is hard, people like their country of origin, etc. Any number of reasons.

Neurotic jew detected

>there has never been a successful communist government

Well China's doing pretty good aren't they? In b4: socialism!=communism

>jobs are bad
The absolute state of the left

No country of the Soviet block has EVER called itself communist.

Why not compare gulags to standard us prisons? The US incarcerates more people than any other country after all

>starving from being poor isnt that different from staving because no food is available

I make less than 15k a year and eat like a king compared to a turdworld equivalent. I live on my own and cook my own meals though.

>you're mistaking and applying the faults of the regime to the idea
Considering the basis of marxism is fundamentally inconsistent it's not too much of a stretch to say that anything that spawns from it will be totally unworkable.
> To say the west, and especially the US, doesn't have "nefarious motives"
putting words in my mouth.

NSA doesn't do any policing, it only spies.

GITMO literally only has sand niggers who were born in the USA and actual terrorists like all the cointelpro/weather undeground fucks

>AMERICA
>STARVING

good lord its like the mentally retarded got a voice

It's only pointless to those who want them to come in anyway. Berniefags love those spic votes, despite the fact that not limiting immigration massively would completely tank Bernie's ideal socialist America.

>there are people in this thread defending communism right now
I will never understand what kind of mental state you have to be in to actually be like this. Fucking disgusting, weak men.

China has problems, but no one knows whether or not those problems will be resolved in the future... likely they will be. China is an example of . Once China urbanizes the whole of its population, and assuming they remain stable with their development, we'll finally see whether or not communism is capable of sustaining itself. The idea, as it stands, is that they will eventually become the first world power, which probably isn't far from the mark.

The US has a larger nigger population than any first world country as well.

>imagine defending the billionaires who keep your wages low for free and calling people who actually want to improve your quality of life the cucks

>marxism
not communism
>putting words in my mouth
You were implying the same thing with communism, I only gave you an alternative statement to swallow to show that they are not different.

>An utterly insignificant allotment
Which he seems to have a hard time accruing.
>to permanently secure our southern border
Aside from all the ways around, over, and underneath a wall, which are being used already.

It just doesn't make any sense. Net immigration from Mexico to the US is zero and has been for a long time. America isn't the ideal destination for Hispanics that it used to be.

Marxism is babies first philosophy. They learn it by heart and cling to it for the rest of their lives. They form their identities around it.
>marxism is not communism
Now you're just trying to be stupid.

>no GoT tourist
>nobody talks about Mr. Robot
>Needs more capeshit wars

>people who actually want to improve your quality of life
Well that's the problem, they're so fucking stupid that they're fucking up my life. We need lower taxes for every person, and lower taxes for corporations.

As for my wages, nobody's forcing me to work for low wages. If it's too low, I won't work.

>just because it's worse in other places, we shouldn't elevate the standard of living in our own country
>try to ignore how capitalist practices are responsible for the squalor living of third world countries
You sound like ever lazy piece of shit politician pandering to corporations to prop up the status quo.

>Now you're just trying to be stupid.
Nigger, Communism spawned from marxism, but they are not entirely the same thing. Read a book.

>people who actually want to improve your quality of life

Billionaires don’t keep my wages low. There is a supply and demand mechanism for employment. They don’t just pull a random salary out their asses. Market forces drive wages. More competition for a job, means less money for you (ie mass immigration keeps your wages low).

So can anyone explain to me why raising the minimum wage (assuming everyone here gets paid that for some reason) would do anything but make things cost more to make up the difference? That all it does isn't just giving a small window during the adjustment period at best?

>Once China urbanizes the whole of its population
Isn't the CCP aggressively trying to keep people in rural areas, to continue farming? It's part of China's self-sufficiency goal. They don't want to rely on outsiders in any situation, so the likelihood of their entire country being urbanized is zero (unless urbanized farming becomes a thing).

Also, China isn't communist, it's vaguely state capitalist in that large corporations can exist but can't piss off the state.

Unironically Bruce Dern

>Read a book.
Classic leftypol argument of "I can't explain myself!".
Also considering that I already said that the ideology of communism spawned from Marxism I suggest you try reading my posts first.

I’m not talking about the poverty, I’m talking about the culture of dependency and learned helplessness, the omnipresent black markets, everyone so used to lying to the government that they lie to each other just as freely

I’ve been to African and S. American counties poorer than Cuba and the schoolgirls there weren’t all whoring themselves out to every tourist that came by because they did have that toxic influence infecting every aspect of their existence

You can urbanize and still having farming. I live in such a state.
You're dumb.

>Kek I’m such an insufferable faggot that my friends abandoned me

wtf I love communism now dude im sick lmao i'm so different damn I wish stacy liked me as much as she likes brad

>You're dumb.

Its mostly minorities that SHOULD be incarcerated though so you shouldn't complain.

Its lazy 15-20 year olds who may or may not be paid to post and who dont realize how shitty things are on a global scale. Even a tertiary Wikipedia dive into communistic atrocities would

>waaaah, I was proven wrong and now I shitpost furiously!

What's the next step of your master plan?

>communist Cuba is poor because a free market decided not to do business with them
Hmmm really procures my brochures

Ignoring a retard and discussing with people who don't make shit up or cry when they can't win an argument.