Why did they even fight each other?

Why did they even fight each other?

Because Americlaps love to see two guys they recognise from that other movie punch each other

lex sent batman a mean letter

homoeroticism

Because Americlaps love to see two guys they recognise from that other movie punch each other

I wouldn't call that a fight

I don't think most americans liked BvS

They forgot to give a reason

muh rivaru

Because plebians can't into World's Finest.

Because Superman was a weird autistic alien man who could destroy the world by accidentally sneezing too hard. He was the greatest threat to mankind's existence. This is exactly how the world would respond if Superman were to just show up suddenly.

How about you watch the movie first

Batman thought Superman was a danger to the world because he's an alien (plus he personally disliked the guy for the events of MoS)
Superman thought Batman was a dangerous vigilante (and personally lex kidnapped Clark's mother)

>That Tumblr red blush on nose and cheeks
Why do they always do it?

>This is exactly how the world would respond if Superman were to just show up suddenly.
Sending an autistic orphan dressed as his fursona to fight the superpowered alien?

Because Americlaps love to see two guys they recognise from that other movie punch each other

Because of that fucking shit stain millennial.

Should not the world greatest detective realize that the man who saved the world from a alien invasion at the risk of his own life is is better of alive? You know, in case this happens again? Like it fucking did?

I did, it made no sense

Naruto, only by exchanging blows you can know Sasuke's true feelings.

like people who have pit bulls to keep their house safe but the dog eventually rips their faces off?

Well, no. But they would try and kill him. Instead of Batman it would just be nuclear Blompf

They were unaware of each others' mothers' names.

Lex Luthor tricked Superman into starting an international crisis in Africa framing him for killing people.
He knew Clark Kent was Superman, he put his people in Africa and got Lois over there. His people killed the Africans and then made their leader hold Lois captive, making Clark come for him.
He knows Bruce Wayne is Batman. When Batman started branding criminals, he has his Russians start paying people in jail to kill the branded. Knowing Clark would investigate this and find it wrong, it sets up a clash of how Justice is served in Clarks head.
Clark saves people the whole movie, Bruce kills anyone in his way. Ultimately, Lex had plans woven into plans to pit the 2 against each other while he is free to do whatever he needed with Kryptonian tech while the best detective in the world hunts Superman, and the strongest man in the world fights Batman.
The planning is beautiful, and you fucking plebs ruined a perfect trilogy because you cant pay attention to a 3 hour film.

oh no not the africans

>Should not the world greatest detective realize that the man who saved the world from a alien invasion at the risk of his own life is is better of alive? You know, in case this happens again? Like it fucking did?

Way to miss the point of superhero movies

One of the major themes shown throughout the film is "If Superman existed in the real world, how would he be treated?"
Well, if he was an American and went to Africa and reportedly killed plenty of African citizens, that would spurn UN councils, American hearings on the Capitol, trials, etc. Which is a major plot point.
Lex literally blows up the Capitol as if to say, "Your worldly tribunals mean nothing to a God"
It begins the second act of Batman and Superman fighting

Lex made Superman angry at Batman by arranging to have people branded with the bat symbol beaten the shit out of in prison

Lex made Batman angry at Superman by exacerbating Batman's existing fear/hatred for Superman through the medium of the wheelchair man

it's all in the movie

No it's not beautiful. It's all a pointless waste of fucking time, because the movie already set up their conflict as resulting from the fallout of what happened in Man of Steel. Yet it then wastes my time creating a set up for the conflict, when there already is one, just so milennial Lex has a reason to be in the movie.

it really wouldn't

Kek I forgot about that gay costume

They fought because there was a 1% chance that Superman was Batman's enemy, so he had to take that as an absolute certainty

>oh no not the africans

That's literally been Western foreign policy on Africa for the past 40 years

>The planning is beautiful
>this is what Snyder dickriders actually think
Sorry but the film was just so bloated and boring that I lost all interest in the plot.

no thats just media propaganda you've actually fallen for

thats a very villainous action. humanity was not put to the test, did have to learn anything to survive and so was made weaker. essentially superman stole mankinds advancement from them by taking on their burdens

Oh Im sorry, do you have a Law Degree focusing on the varying ordinances and bylaws of extraterrestrials on the planet?

Because youre a fucking retard used to the plot being spoonfed to you

>oh no africans are dying quick burn the superman
lel

you're a brainlet who didn't even watch the film

>capeshit doesn't spoonfeed
kek someone sounds mad. Besides, I had no issue with the way the plot was presented. You could have the most intricately crafted setup revealed only through oblique references, but if the movie itself is dull then I'm not going to pay attention.

The fallout would have shown Bruce he is not prepared for a fight. He would have waited until he was ready.
Lex sped this process up with all the incidents he created. He knew that watching the Capitol being destroyed, the symbol of American Law and Order, Batman would begin his attack almost immediately.
What part of 2 aliens destroying an entire city makes you think a mere mortal, even the greatest crimefighter of earth, stop the alien that wins in a one on one?
Batman had to plan and Lex finding the kryptonite knowing Bruce would steal it gives Batman all the edge he needed.

Its frustrating seeing people bash on a good film, and spurning a whole studio to fire the man who created it, because its a little complex.

Because the world's greatest detective got trolled hard by a goofy ass plan involving a jar of pee pee

They think their alcoholism-blemished face is a cute expression of emotion

>The planning is beautiful
>perfect trilogy

I don't keep reaction pics, just google laughting people please

So... he should have let Earth fight Zod on their own?

Hellow, comic book Lex Luthor. Indee, fuck superman putting the whole world in a bottle

Poor writing

Extended Edition: Superman legitimately thought Batman was evil under newfound pressure to prove he's on humanity's side after Man of Steel and public pressure, and his prime motivation being saving Lois (Doesn't act until Lois is about to be killed in the middle east, including not saving Jimmy from KGBeast), Batman was going after Luthor and didn't trust Superman, but got manipulated by Luthor into focusing on Superman, while Superman directly attacked Batman on his path to Luthor on his own, confirming his suspicions after Lex's manipulations. Lex almost kills Superman by using Batman, and Superman discovers Batman's kryptonite (MY PARENTS ARE DEAAAAAAAD) by accident out of desperation knowing he's about to die by Batman's hands, Lois Lane is key because she explains what Superman was trying to tell Batman at the beginning of the fight, that Luthor was behind everything, which Flash tells him earlier, which confuses Batman at the time because he doesn't know who Lois is. Lois saves Superman from Batman, then they both team up to stop Lex. Also Wonder Woman is in the movie for no real reason because MCU and we need to set up justice league.

Theatrical: Who cares it sucked.

Again, it was neither the complexity nor the presentation of plot which bothered me. The film was just tedious. If you're a filmmaker who doesn't know how to hold his audience's attention, you've clearly failed at the first hurdle. I don't have the same fetish for the overblown, greased-up masculine aesthetic that Snyder and his fans have, and I'm so bored of the trite men-and-gods theme that is recycled for literally every single one of his films. He's a hack who makes up for his lack of substance with occasionally pretty visuals, a heavy blue filter and a bloated three-hour long run time, because if you can't make it to the end it must just be because you're too stupid to get it, right?

The man and god theme is purely asthetic and barely affects the plot. Its just something Luthor cows on about

>purely aesthetic
>the film revolves around the conflict between a man terrified that a near-immortal alien who is perpetually being referred to as a "god" could destroy everything at any moment
whether its an aesthetic choice or not, its still a theme that crops up constantly and clearly affects the plot.

But at the end, its about "god" is a man too. Its an aesthetic that Snyder uses but it never comes to fruition like most movies. God is just a man and thats how Batman discovers Superman is a man

Actually forget the last part of
Wonder Woman is a demigod that learned not to trust humanity or get involved based on her experiences with it, Batman is a human who shares those feelings, but devotes his life to saving humanity from itself and not being human, then superman comes a long who is still trying to figure out humanity because Jor El was fucking wrong about humans being stupid and weak because he never took into account someone like Batman....

Actually, fuck it Jerry Seinfeld was right about Man of Steel, Snyder got pretentious over complicated the fuck out of Superman in the first place and missed the point. Superman Returns deserves a rewatch. Fuck Sup Forums.

Seinfeld has an opinion on this movie? What did that jew say

MARTHA

Who even cares Satan? audiences seem to agree too.

Waste of trips damn it. Is seinfeld a decent critic? I know hes a big fan of superman

OR, or Zack just did a subpar job presenting it?
You DCdrones always blame the people who """""didn't get it""""" instead of blaming zack, you pretend like this movie is flawless and has no ridiculous moments in it like the our moms have the same name moment. It has great action scenes but it just crammed in too many things at once and couldn't present them in a proper manner.
>you fucking plebs ruined a perfect trilogy because you cant pay attention to a 3 hour film.
You're lying if you say you comprehended the entire story and got all the plot details the first time you watched it fuck off

> it never comes to fruition
> God is just a man and thats how Batman discovers Superman is a man

Sounds like it did though?

Because Mothra was about to die.

this

are you fucking retarded?

Are you? They payed to watch it, sure, but they didn't like it.

They'll pay to watch the ne wones too, but that doesn't mean they like them either. People like to see trainwreks and like to complain about shit.

Most white americans I know of concede that BvS was a terrible movie.
It's only black and hispanic people who lap that shit up and act like Snyder is a genius.

Because Batman, as a consequence of his childhood trauma of standing powerless as his parents were murdered, grows desperate after seeing Superman and Zod , two impossibly powerful beings, fight and leaving great collateral damage in their wake, among other things injuring a man working for him and robbing a little girl of their parents. So he comes to the conclusion that Superman is a danger to humanity that has to be neutraliyed at all costs, this attitude is reinforced by Lex Luthor manipulating him and support his descent into anger and paranoia.

On the other side Superman, living as a human, catches wind of an increasingly radicalized Batman brutalizing people in Gotham City and uses his Clark Kent persona to investigate into it, culminating in him meeting Bruce Wayne at a party orchestrated by Lex Luthor, trying to confront him but only getting to know him as an elitist rich sociopath with a skewed sense of justice.

As Superman's morals are too strong to actually kill Batman as Luthor had hoped he kidnaps his mother to force him to kill Batman in exchange but even then he is only ready to use violence against Batman as Batman attacks him on sight, unwilling to listen to reason.

He gets it

It´s just a fucking name, why would Batman stop ?

I'm bored, will I enjoy this movie after a few beers?

No, it's not really that type of movie. It really wants viewers to pay attention and take it seriously. If you don't it will all seem very boring and self important to you.

k, thanks

Hey look, a bunch of stuff that wasn't actually established in the DCEU

You trying to tell me all this stuff from the movie wasn't actually in the movie?

did batman really think his shitty traps would stop superman? one of them was two sentry guns!

fpbp

>sub par
>can't even pay attention to a comic book movie
Listen you fucked up and didn't pay attention to a movie and then got mad when it was explained to you. If you don't want to watch a movie go do something else

>white
>Americans
Lol

>then got mad when it was explained to you
>didn't pay attention
you didn't even pay attention to my post you mong. I knew you DCdrones liked to suck Zack's dick but holy shit it's like he paid you to do so

>another pleb doesn't realize the message of the movie is if God existed it's not how we envision him. He is an entity, and his actions are not all powerful even if he is all good. He cannot control everyone and everything, which is why "innocents die" in the beginning when Zod and Superman fight (9/11) and when Superman was framed in the village (America's response to 9/11). It's a true allegory to today's political climate, not the hackery of The Dark Knight's use of invading people's privacy at the end to mirror the Patriot Act

If they didn't fight, how could they name it Batman v. Superman?

Most white ameircans rate BvS as their favourite movie.

wow snyder truly is a visionary

The movie is called Batman vs Superman. If you went into think they wouldn’t fight, you’re literally a fucking retarded person. If you’re asking plot wise why, because Lex Luther was going to kill Superman’s mom and Batman had an axe to to grind because Superman destroyed his company building and killed a bunch of his employees in the process in the first film while fight Zod.

>the message is mangled epicurus that ignores the final conclusion

why call this character superman?

>thinking patricians watch COMIC BOOK FLICKS

>It really wants viewers to pay attention and take it seriously

Is there any other movie like this? Tries to be serious and deep but comes out as pretentious and akward?

Arguably Cloud Atlas. Though for entirely different reasons.

This is a joke right? Do you watch anything other than capeshit. You’re describing 90% of Indie movies. This is some excellent bait or you’re just actually awful.

People saying Lex's plan
pfffffhhahahahaha

Superman fought Batman because Lex kidnapped Martha, and ordered him to go kill the Batman. It's that simple. None, none of the convoluted african bullet CIA prison buttrape wheelchair nonsense that comprised the preceding 2/3 of the film made any difference in the end. Jesus, this film is so so shit.

FITES AN SPLOZIONS

To be fair, most of the time you don't see amateurish indie movie level mistakes coupled with 200m budgets. And the budget being what confused some people into thinking bvs and mos weren't shit.

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>None, none of the convoluted african bullet CIA prison buttrape wheelchair nonsense that comprised the preceding 2/3 of the film
You missed out the jar of human urine

that happens before martha gets kidnapped too

Batman fought Superman because he was too angry not to.

Superman was just defending himself.

>The movie is called Batman vs Superman

no, the movie is called batman V superman

because batman vs superman is not "realistic" and "goofy"

Because they did in The Dark Knight Returns.
This is the actual correct answer. Then they shoe-horned it into a film where it makes no sense.