>You a photographer? >I'm a combat correspondent. >Well, you seen much combat? >I've seen a little on TV. >You're a real comedian. >Well, they call me the Joker. >Well I got a joke for you. I'm gonna tear you a new asshole. >Well, pilgrim, only after you eat the peanuts out of my shit! >You talk the talk. Do you walk the walk?
Have two human beings ever conversed like this? Everything from the dialogue itself to the delivery is so fucking awkward and not in a intentional or good way. It probably would've been better if everyone else in the background wasn't going "OOOOOOOHH" like each line was a 'sick burn'.
Bantering in front of their fellow soldiers for some laughs and to size the other up. It's not intended to be natural talking
Adrian Bell
>Hey Lieutenant. Thank god for the sickle cell, huh? >Yeah, mother.
Why didn't the Lt. lecture Animal Mother about his toxic racism?
Owen Cooper
It's banter if it was written by a randomized algorithm.
Colton Bennett
Joker was 100% unafraid in this scene, even in the face of a man who was clearly unhinged. Respeck.
Brandon King
Holy fuck, I have wondered this for like 15 years
what is this films problem
Camden Williams
>Is that you John Wayne? Is this me? Was Kubrick high while writing the script for FMJ?
Liam Price
It took me a couple of viewings to realize that Animal Mother constantly has his finger on the trigger.
Chase Harris
All fucking niggers must fucking hang
Chase Price
I was young enough that i just assumed it was a reference to something i didn't know about. only after all these years do i realize the script was just nonsensical.
Brody Moore
>Reminder that Arnold was supposed to be Animal Mother but his schedule as too busy
You talk de talk. But dew yew valk de valk
Levi Gomez
I agree the movie tries to hard in places. I think it was the 'arty' aspect of the Vietnam era
Luke Adams
His very presence would've been too distracting.
Wyatt Wood
He's a legit danger to everyone around him, or at least it seems so. But everyone just laughs him off.
Lucas Wilson
Most of that opening scene was adlib.
Leo Campbell
I used to think he was one of the Baldwin brothers
Justin Sullivan
It was mockery of Animal, by Joker. AKA Bantz
It is more common than you may ever imagine in the military, and is widely practiced informal method of measuring up a new party you'll be working with.
Not just the strength (implied), but really the wit and diplomacy. Been on hours long convoys escorting other units, where shit-talking occurred over radio the entire time. Most of those missions ended amiable and with some level of mutual respect. Every once in a while you'd run into one butthurt guy and his buddies rallying on him, or not. Which also says something, something admirable, or not.
Henry Richardson
Isn't it crazy to know that this movie was filmed entirely in London?
Nicholas Brown
This. It's really nonsensical and unhuman.
Angel Perry
Most of it, yeah.
>Gunnery Sergeant Gerheim spits. "Listen up, herd. You maggots had better start looking like United States Marine Corps recruits. Do not think for one second that you are Marines. You just dropped by to pick up a set of dress blues. Am I right, ladies? Sorry 'bout that." >A wiry little Texan in horn-rimmed glasses the guys are already calling "Cowboy" says, "Is that you, John Wayne? Is this me?" Cowboy takes off his pearl-gray Stetson and fans his sweaty face. >I laugh. Years of high school drama classes have made me a mimic. I sound exactly like John Wayne as I say: "I think I'm going to hate this movie." >Cowboy laughs. He beats his Stetson on his thigh. >Gunnery Sergeant Gerheim laughs, too. The senior drill instructor is an obscene little ogre in immaculate khaki. He aims his index finger between my eyes and says, "You. Yeah—you. Private Joker. I like you. You can come over to my house and fuck my sister." He grins. Then his face goes hard. "You little scumbag. I got your name. I got your ass. You will not laugh. You will not cry. You will learn by the numbers. I will teach you."
Blake Martinez
Fpbp
Justin Turner
Probably European.
Daniel Brown
Source, nigger
Jackson Thomas
Is that from the screenplay? Because very little of that made it into the finished film. Or is the movie based on a book that I am not aware of?
Jackson Morales
The CGI'd Nam still holds up to this day.
Cooper Lee
Better not
Brayden Rodriguez
that's not the point. the point is, why were the insults so stupid, and why did everyone around them act like they were great, going 'oooooh' and shit? It was fucking weird.
Colton Cooper
As someone with experience, would you say anyone was genuinely worried about working with someone like Animal Mother?
Ryan Perry
It's from "the short-timers", a short novel by Gustav Hasford (pic related).
Nearly all of Kubrick's films are based on novels, though he always took a very loose approach when it came to adaptation. He wasn't interested in following the plot to a tee, so much as just use it as a skeleton to explore what he wanted to get at.
Cooper Robinson
isn't he?
Benjamin Cruz
Naw, it's written, or at least workshopped. R Lee has said in interviews that he and Kubrick worked on his scenes together. Sometimes R Lee would throw in new lines on the day and Kubrick would keep what he liked.
Noah Barnes
Nice, thanks. Gonna check that out.
Xavier Bennett
>You a photographer? >I'm a combat correspondent. >Well, you seen much combat? >I've seen a little on TV. >You're a real comedian. >Well, I'm da jokah baby!
Dominic Wilson
No relation
Daniel Cox
It didn't have to be a 'sick burn' they just wanted to stir the pot. In the age of cape shit, this is what you want to argue about?
Asher Morgan
It's like they are in a movie or something.
Logan Collins
Because when shit hits the fan Animal is gonna fuck some shit up.
Landon Morgan
>too beaucoup white bois btfo bbc was a recognized thing even during the vietnam war.
Jace Hernandez
It was weird going from the military to civilian life because I'd grown so accustomed to constantly talking shit to everyone but people on the outside are so easily offended.
Anthony Cook
It's a slightly intimidating moment for Joker while dudes are egging on any potential conflict while you barely notice Mother looks like a successfull and fully integrated Private Pyle, a psycho who is functional
Austin Gomez
Because Joker perceived Animal Mother as brainless, and was testing to see otherwise. Who not so subtly steered the conversation in the perceived vocabulary of AM.
Nearly all line units have one Animal Mother, likely more. Had one guy in particular in our platoon that completely fit the bill, and I don't think he'd ever seen FMJ.
Hear you user, took me honestly a couple years to get back into how civil society worked.
Noah Morgan
>nigger shows dick >ok niggers are tiny btfo
Aaron Bell
>too beaucoup *shows dick* >okay, him jew
Jaxson Garcia
GET THIS GOOKHEAD OUT OF HERE
Adam Ramirez
It's stylised like that on purpose ya dingus
Kubrick was shitting on the stereotypical Hollywood war movie dialogue
Blake Williams
>dr. pavel I'm cia >he wasn't alone >uh you don't get to bring friends >they're not my friends >don't worry no charge for them >why would I want them? >they were trying to nab your prize >they work for the mercenary >the mosquito man >bane >aye >get them onboard I'll call it in >the flightplan I just filed with the agency lists me, my men, but only one >of you >first one to talk gets to stay on my aircraft >who paid you to grab dr. pavel? >he didn't fly so good, who want to try next? >tell me about bane, why does he wear the mask? >a lotta loyalty for a hired gun >perhaps he's wondering why someone would shoot a man before throwing him out of a plane >at least you can talk >who are you? >it doesn't matter who we are >the only thing that matters is our plan >nobody cared who I was till I put on the mask >if I pull that off, will you die? >it would be extremely painful >you're a big guy >for you >well congratulations you got yourself caught >what's the next step of your master plan? >crashing this plane >WITH NO SURVIVORS
Have two human beings ever conversed like this? Everything from the dialogue itself to the delivery is so fucking awkward and not in a intentional or good way. It probably would've been better if everyone else in the background wasn't standing around getting shot like each one of them was a retard.
William Brooks
This is also why Stephen King hated The Shining
Colton Scott
i'm in wildland fire and my specialty is to train and work with veterans trying to transition into civilian life. the issue is, the reason so many of you guys are attracted to fire is what they liked best about military service, ie; lots and lots of shit talking on the crews, between crews and informal dick measuring that's mostly in good fun but there's always one guy who takes it too seriously.
Julian Morales
They're meant to sound like idiots, they're a couple kids acting cool and tough in front of their buddies.
Evan Cooper
I struggled with this for a long time also.
Jacob Hernandez
It's a reference to the book
Eli Perry
I like how the Animal Mother-character followed Baldwin to as far as Firefly. Firefly just added some sensitivity and a good story to back him up.
Gavin Long
Underrated
Bentley Perez
Its jarhead shit. Kubrick got it right actually compared to most movies
Andrew Stewart
Its odd yeah but Ive seen people talk beef in a similar vein
Robert Wood
This how alpha males interact with each other. You virgin soyboys wouldn't know anything about that
Lincoln Watson
what is your major malfunction, numbnuts?
Wyatt Gomez
Stephen King is a fucking hack. Literally nobody even talks about the Shining book because the movie was phenomenal. Kubrick had legitimate talent. King is a champanzee that accidentally pounds out a good book once in a rare while.
Christopher Ramirez
no such thing
Aiden James
I think its the most comedic scene in the movie. It doesn't matter what they say or how they say it these are dudes who are tired from war just bantering off to pass time
Kevin Taylor
tfw it's another millennial soyboy demonstrates that his generation doesn't have a working sense of humour and needs stuff explained to them in long drawn-out exhaustive fucking detail thread
Ian Gomez
what does blood disease has to do with racism?
Blake Fisher
He said that because one of the guys sound like John Wayne.
Sebastian Adams
Was this castle a multiplayer map in mount and blade?
Colton Smith
Shut up you stupid twink faggot
Sorry it ruffles ur snowflake
Jaxson Thomas
>Have two human beings ever conversed like this?
Yes. Also I was inspired to watch it again. What a movie. YOu might have started a meme with the >Have 2 humans ever conversed like this thing. only time will tell
Julian Johnson
This, Kubrick made a schlock horror book into a decent movie and King got butthurt because of it.
Matthew Sullivan
Not quippy enough for you OP?
Jaxson Gonzalez
>Animal Mother
Only now, years later, do I recognise how good a name that is. And I don't know why.
Adam Jenkins
>Have two human beings ever conversed like this?
Well, in our army (Russian) back then it happened. There is a new guy with who you will have to go in combat and you don't know him. This is a very good and fast way to measure a man. If he isn't afraid - he won't run in combat. If he won't butthurt and have a sense of humor - there will be no problems sitting with him in a bunker fro a few hours watch. So yeah, this is kinda normal talk with a new guy for a warzone.
Kevin Ward
it's a military thing
it's not an actual conversation literally just talking shit
Mason Jones
Is FMJ the weakest post-Strangelove Kubrick film? It's still a 6/10 at worst, but it just feels so fucking haphazardly put together.
Jace Martinez
It's a movie
Grayson Cruz
So this is the army where old guys fuck younger ones?
John Jackson
It's a racist blood disease that only affects niggers
Aaron Lee
this
Owen Allen
if you ever watched another kubrick movie, you'd know this is nothing unusual, all his movies are cryptic, cold and partially emotionless.
Logan Rodriguez
It's mirroring Shakespearean play dialogue structure.Vietnam is their stage and they are merely actors. It's very much on purpose. That's why it's kinda slow and stilted rather than rapid fire insults.
Robert Sanchez
>cold and partially emotionless.
is autism spectrum manifestation /ourguy/?
Sebastian Miller
0/10
Liam Morgan
>mfw i find out Joker is Eleven's "father" in Stranger Things
Damn he got old
Josiah Torres
Military engagements are performed in "theaters" Kubrick was using that in a literal sense to create irony.
Doesn't change the fact that the Shakespeare comparison was fucking stupid.
Logan Gomez
Kubrick like the juxtaposition of something jingoistic and wholly American with traditional stage plays and higher art. It's why he found the "John Wayne reading Shakespeare" thing so funny.
Luis Stewart
...
Robert Allen
Stephen Kangz is a good storyteller but other people can see more in his ideas than he did. Take The Mist, for instance, where the movie ending is 100% better. This is the usual way of things though, life is a collaborative effort.
Wyatt Gutierrez
see
Tyler Nguyen
>imagine him saying all fucking niggers must hang >realize he’d never have been governor
Christian Evans
I provide evidence and you just keep repeating "nuh uh." I can't help you fail at film appreciation.
Angel Gonzalez
Shakespear didn't make films.
Joseph Sanders
>have two humans ever conversed like this? No. Only Gods do.
Colton Martinez
I never said he did. He wrote dialogue between actors for plays though. Which I did say. Try to pay attention. I know it doesn't have purple aliens and pew pew in it so it's hard to concentrate.
Oliver Wilson
Look out boys we got a real expert here. I know we all read Shakespear in high school but this guy appreciates it, you feel me?
Lucas Green
Do you thread the thread?
Jaxon Kelly
You're just mad I mentioned something from the movie that you didn't see. Reminder that I wasn't the one who sperged out and berated someone for knowing stuff. Have fun with your "man I really like the first part because of the funny yelling cursing man but the second part is sooooo boring" interpretation of the film.
Camden Sullivan
Starting in the military was coached, drilled and with brothers all around you, even the asshole who knew how to make you wanna cry in the end was a true friend. Comming back into society all you meet are enemies trying to make you weak. And I am trained to disable enemies. Is this ever gonna change?
Leo Peterson
you didn't see anything, you made a remark other people found worthy of derision and your response to that was to pretend you're some kind of savant
Asher Barnes
I assumed it was intentional. The whole film, in particular the second half, has this unreal quality to it in both the dialogue and the scenes. I have no idea what Kubrick might have been trying to say with that, but the film certainly has this fake-fake atmosphere to it