So, what's the explanation for Jack being owned in the second episode...

So, what's the explanation for Jack being owned in the second episode, despite being in full gears and in full shape and unwounded whereas, in the 3rd episode, despite being badly wounded and having lost at least half of his blood, he literally mauled though them all.

Did the daughters of Aku lost their perfect formation the moment one of them was dead? Was knowing they were just humans really making a difference, like when he thought they were robots, he thought getting close to them was too risky and they would still be able to fight if they were robots and he did what he did to them?

He seemed to have concluded the only way to survive was to kill them, at least...

Second episode he was on the brink of suicide and caught by surprise.
Third episode he got his balls back and had a home-field advantage.

The Daughters are not as good at combat as Jack. They are still mentally children and have little understanding of anything other than what little they were taught in their cave. They got lucky the first time.

In the first fight they ambushed him.

In the second fight he ambushed them.

Being prepared makes a big difference.

He didn't get owned, he just lost his weapons. And this was while he had no idea of their numbers or capabilites, and was the result of an ambush. He only got hurt after finding out they were human.

And he spent a couple of days at least recuperating in that cave, so I doubt he was still that badly wounded.

>He only got hurt after finding out they were human.
No, he was stabbed just before slitting the one's throat.

Jack gets stronger the more naked he is

Ambushes are very successful strategies

>Was knowing they were just humans really making a difference, like when he thought they were robots, he thought getting close to them was too risky and they would still be able to fight if they were robots and he did what he did to them?
Anyone remember that scene in one of the first ep of Ninja Turtle where they are reluctant to fight the foot Soldiers up until they learn they are robots? Anyone feeling doing the oppiste here?

the only weird thing about it was how they somehow lost 70% of their speed after that initial ambush

How embarrassing it is having these girl be raised from birth to be trained as assassins for a singular purpose only to have all of them get outright rekt within 5 minutes?

that's the kind of inconsistency that's rife in even the most critically acclaimed chinese cartoons though, so whatever

Because the girls ambushed him and nothing more, not even numbers really mattered anymore once episode 3 came out

They show just how ill-prepared and child-like they still are by showing them watching a deer and a buck interact lovingly and then the girls wonder what they're doing or what kinda of Aku minion it is.
All they know is killing and fighting and jack and aku and they aren't even really good at that

He accepted who he was. The mantra his father said and that he repeated to the girls (who naturally didn't understand the meaning).

Actually they were only faster in comparison. It was Jack who was slower because of the heavy armor he was wearing and the helmet imiting his field of sight.

They only looked faster form Jack's point of view.

This.

But also, I get that they were up against a guy with 60~ years of experience, but it seemed a bit cheap that their training shows them dodging arrows yet they easily got hit by anything Jack threw.

It's better and more fun to be inconsistent by having Jack suddenly be just as faster rather than having the enemy suddenly be shit.

It's exact same formula every time though?
>Jack is near completely shrekked
>gets naked
>gathers his resolve
>utterly dominates the second round

Plus an unknown enemy ambushed him the first time and he reverse-ambushed a known enemy the second go
What's so confusing about this?

Turns out swimming in frigid whitewater rivers for a whole day is exhausting

Resolve

I was thinking while I was watching that Jack would've picked up on the daughter's response to the deer, resulting in him using bones and shadow puppetry in the cave to trick them into thinking he is Aku and that the samurai is already long gone, Would've put a nice contrast from fighting 'nuts and bolts' with steel and strength and human beings with cunning.

I loved the episode how it played out but I still would've enjoyed seeing Jack's Aku impression.

I'm not the only one who got turned-on by Ashi's autistic rant am I?

that Tara Strong voice....

The only man who understands the show

It may be difficult at first but Jack finds a way. He always does.

Acktually any good set of armor really isn't that heavy at all.

Nah her delivery was shit.

She wasn't screaming loud enough.

the desperate rant of an untalented hack past her prime. Delicious

With more reverb since they were surrounded by mountains, and to symbolize the emptiness of her anger

>and they aren't even really good at that

Nigga, comparing Jack's power level to talk about others isn't fair. Remember that Da Samurai was "strong" and show to actually be able to trash his enemies....and still never was close to a challenge for Jack? Remember some planet wide famous bounty hunters losing in seconds? Jack makes elite enemies look like mooks.

In the first fight he was experiencing mental instability and was ambushed by all the sisters
In the next episode he got in the first hit taking out a sister from the start. So he started the fight with two less sisters. Also getting them on the log so he could 1v1 them helped.

Ambush, darkness, element of surprise.

The very moment they let that first kill slide and Jack realized they're human, they were dead. You pretty much don't get second chances with jack. They were relentless enough, they should have pushed their advantage in the temple as much as they could.

Jack got used to their speed and moves
He's an expert fighter.

It's like Rambo shirt off until the fourth movie.

Jack is strong in the snow where its blindingly white. The sisters triumph in the darkness of the temple.
K I N O
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>darkness
You mean whiteness.

How many times is she gonna hang off a cliff and scream autistically

Yeah no question it's a shit delivery but it does unintentionally sound like a really good hate-fuck porno by audio alone.

It's not like he's weak against darkness or anything

I bet that cartwheel would be easier if he was naked.

This has been proven time and again.

Jack learned contrast.

Taking a spear to the gut would be easier too.

In the second episode he was reluctant about killing them.
In the third he accepted that he had to do it.

>In the second episode he was reluctant about killing them
he didn't know they were humans till the very end

it's just a simple combination of ambush + mental weariness

Jack is a samurai.
He is strongest when in a kimono and doing samurai stuff.
Samurai armor is a good second bet, but guns and bike is an enormous debuff.

HE REMEMBERED HIS PURPOSE

>in a kimono
No, Jack is strongest when he's naked.

the general rule is that armour doesnt hamper your abilities much, it just wreaks havoc on your stamina.

at least, for western style armour.

>Sisters were down 1
>Used the fog/snow to hide and ambush them with the spears
>Took advantage of the crow distracting them
>Used the tree behind him to get their weapons stuck when trying to stab him to stop them for a moment
>Singled out the one with the blunt weapon so he could grab it
>Used the log so they will have to fight him one on one with no chance of being attacked from behind or the side
>They're wearing pure black so they stick out among the snow covered environment so he can know where they are

Was wondering the same exact thing. I mean, I fine, I can accept the lazy cop out of "jack is just that skilled" bullshit as per every other episode of this series but how in the hell did he go from almost dead to fully healed in such a short amount of time? Or was it supposed to be implied that they were searching for way long then a few days?

Let her go already..

Seemed like a couple of days.

Not with a superior DEX build

Jack is stronger when he isnt wearing clothes.

Jack went full Rambo on their asses.

If you watch it again, they do their best to make it somewhat reasonable.

First off he picks off two right off the bat. Instead of 1 v 7 it's 1 v 4.

The first he stabs through the chest in a sneak attack from beneath the snow. He's a couple of feet away from her undetected.

He hides immediately, gets another spear and Chuck's it in another surprise attack, and the first sister dodges, but the one immediately behind her takes it.

He scripted that portion of the fight and executed perfectly.

1 v 4, not 1 v 7

The last portion he kills 3 of them 1 v 1 on the log. So the first he kills and the last three he kills (or defeats) he beats 1 v 1. The 2nd he kills is an almost unavoidable ambush.

The 3rd and 4th he kills are the ones you might take issue with. Killed by a chucked spear and killed in a 1 v 4 situation. However, they moderate this by providing the explanation that the third was taken by surprise because the chucked spear was in a straight line, and the sister in front blocked her view and dodged. A little weak maybe, but it is at least an attempt.

The fourth he got at the end of the 1 v 4. He was completely on the defensive for this, hard pressed, and managed to take advantage of an opening. The girl does a backflip and he throws the knife, so just as she's coming down it hits her in the chest. Unavoidable.

The impression I got was 1 v 1, Jack wins. He killed the first 2 and the last three in a more or less 1 v 1 situation. 1 v 2 was about even. 1 v 3 and he was on the defensive. 1 v 7 and it's fucking impossible.

A lot of people completely missed what was probably the biggest indication for Jack's victory. There was a lot of use of blood for symbolism in this episode (both Jack and the wolf were covered in it when they meet) This gave the two a seance of comradery and made both more powerful as a result. This comradery however hurt the daughters of Aku. As I'm sure we are all aware, they were completely in sync with their moves and ability, but the blood metaphor from before comes back to negatively effect them. When girls spen a lot of time with each other their menstrual cycles tend to sync up as well. All 6 of them were on their period and simply did not stand a chance. This can be further noted when Ashi was screaming like an annoying bitch after the fight.

I was hoping that was Mad Jack taunting him in the cave.
Would have made for an interesting easter egg if the color was done right.

nigga you crazy

He isn't angry though.

Basically his entire strategy was to eliminate their numbers as safely as he could, and then putting himself in a position where they would be funneled, and forced to fight him in single combat.

He used the environment to his advantage expertly.

>A lot of people completely missed what was probably the biggest indication for Jack's victory.
he was almost naked.
Naked Jack > Superman

I'm just surprised that Mecha Shiva didn't throw Jack for a loop.

Though I suppose he did fight off a literal mecha shiva in the Arena.

>yfw the final battle is Aku vs Jack fist fight. But unlike the first battle, there will be no magic tricks this time

>no magic tricks
>Jack turns into a 70 year old man

>hurr they were on their period thats why they lost
Realistically though its been explained several times why there was such a strong turnaround. Ep. 2 Jack got ambushed, disarmed and chased relentlessly by an enemy he had never faced before, while some cruel echo of him was hounding him to kill himself.

Ep. 3 Jack knows (truly) what hes facing, gained resolve by remembering the lessons learned from this father, and ambushed them instead. He killed two of them within a few seconds of getting the jump on them, then summarily dispatched the others in a straight fight.

I'm still wondering if more than one sister survives the fall. Would be interesting to see one retain her laser focus and dedication to killing Jack while Ashi strays from the course after realizing she was raised on lies her whole life.

A combination of strategy, experience from the first fight, and newfound desire to survive/win.

Fighting in the snow negated their speed and stealth somewhat, while the showdown on the branch forced them into one-on-one combat and moving in a straight line.

Consider that even in the second episode, running for his life and surprised by the Sister, Jack's not only able to defeat her, but actually disarms her and kills her with her own weapon.
Even before that, he fought two of the Sisters while unarmed in that dark passage and held his ground. He ran because he knew the others would catch up to him in moments. Thus it was established before that the Sisters individually are no match for Jack and only got so far because of ambushing him and always attacking in numbers.
So in third episode he killed some of them and finally forced them to fight him one-on-one.

This. His plot armor is inversely proportional to his regular armor. eg the nakeder the better. Think of it like the inverse ninja law, but with clothes.

Alternatively a /tg/ answer would be something along the lines of: Jack was trained in light armor and all his heavy armor gave him fuck-huge penalties to his stats. It wasn't until he got rid of it that he had a high enough dex score to make the requisite saving throws to evade their attacks. He also took a positional advantage on the tree trunk over the cliff so that the sisters couldn't get flanking bonuses any more.

>implying he won't just press X to win

>When girls spen a lot of time with each other their menstrual cycles
You lost me there.
And here I thought you were actually going tomention how they were raised to never feel compassion and care for each other, which cost them their capacity to truly fight as a unit.

Ep2: Ambushed while mentally broken
Ep3: Ambushing while sound of mind

Like Jack is a god of combat at this point, if he spent 15 years training in the past and 50 surviving in the future, that's a dude with 65 years of fighting experience in a body in its physical prime.

Not to mention the daughters literally only know their training, they turn OOGH the moment they see anything not relevant to killing Jack.

Jack set the pace of the fight and ambushed them first similar to how they set the rhythm of their first encounter with their ambush.

Don't forget that Jack has been training and fighting for the better part of 70 years, a couple of 20-something assassins aren't going to break him when he has a clear head.

I don't see how any of the sisters besides Ashi could survive tho.

1 got cut in the neck and bled out
2, 3 and 4 got impaled in the chest
5 got knocked out and threw off a cliff unconscious
6's neck broke with one single punch from Jack, and THEN she fell

At least Ashi and Jack have the excuse of surviving because they were conscious when they fell so they can attempt something.

Jacks so meta he jobs for himself.

5 is the only one that might come back because CARTOONS but as I'm concerned, Jack and Ashi are the only ones left alive.

The power of plot user the power of plot.

so did aku actually smash their mom or nah

Not really, he just gathered enough resolve to survive. He still doesn't seem intent on getting his sword back and killing Aku.

I doubt it.

If that was the case you'd think he'd remember or that they'd have some supernatural powers.

Same, good job user you had me going there

Do you think those weak-ass kids are the actual children of Aku? This just just insane cult nonsense that's trying to fuck Aku.

What a lot of people forget about jack is that he didn't just spend his entire life learning martial arts - he also spent it learning from dozens of different teachers and disciplines. He learned how to direct a fight and build tactics on the go, and the sisters didn't. That's why Jack is a killing machine more than anything.

>Alternatively a /tg/ answer would be something along the lines of: Jack was trained in light armor and all his heavy armor gave him fuck-huge penalties to his stats. It wasn't until he got rid of it that he had a high enough dex score to make the requisite saving throws to evade their attacks. He also took a positional advantage on the tree trunk over the cliff so that the sisters couldn't get flanking bonuses any more.

I fucking love tabletop explanations for non tabletop related media.

It always works.

The hardest kill for him was probably the 3rd one in their second fight. The first two were killed in his initial ambush, after that he started juggling 4 opponents and managed to kill yet another one to lower their count to 3 which he then soloed on a narrow tree branch.

You're more likely to survive a fall unconscious because your body is relaxed.

He was also trained in darkness.

they ambushed him in the darkness and Jack wasn't mentally together when they first fought.

the second fight he's mentally sound and can easily hide in the snow. Combined with his decades of fighting in the future he pretty much balls on them

>5 got knocked out and threw off a cliff unconscious
Wasn't she fully conscious when Jack chucked her off the tree? She seems likely to survive at this point.

i could see her surviving and returning in a few episodes to make Ashi choose between her old life and new one

Is there a download for the new episode at all by the way?

If she doesn't show up impaled on some branches at the bottom of the trees next episode I'm going to assume she lives.

>he got his balls back
>sound of mind

Did that actually happen though. He's probably still suicidal, nothing changed on that front. The only peace he found within this episode was peace from killing a human, which is something he did far after his suicidal thoughts developed. His suicidal thoughts are unrelated and pertain to Aku and Jack's family

He can't have been at peace, if that were true we wouldn't see his mindJack telling him to kill himself again but it surely has to happen since he doesn't really know what he's doing. All he did in Episode 3 was kill those after him. He's back to Square 1 now.

>Yeah no question it's a shit delivery

I think that might have been the point. to sorta illustrate that she's completely brainwashed and none of her thought and motivations are her own.

That or it just is what it is, a shit delivery.

Jack trained for longer, plus he's had 50 years of additional experience.

50+ years of experience fighting death robots and monsters vs. 10 years fighting mooks in a cave.

Yeah people are thinking that Jack is back but he still hasn't found his way again. He just gathered his shit together enough to defend himself from the assassins that were after him.

>It took Jack literally killing for him to finally get his shit together after 50 years
>It wasn't even the shock of killing, just the realisation he should do it more

Triggering that one Flashback really did wonders huh

It was really good roast duck

He's definitely not at peace yet, I think Jack goes through this a lot.

People with mental illnesses usually go through cycles where they feel terrible and then feel pretty good.

Jack's feeling good right now(relatively), but he has not overcome his psychosis.