>Many decades has passed since the events of Return of the Jedi
>Military technology, aesthetics and Ship design are still roughly the same.
>An aging Millennium Falcon can still out fly an Empires Tie fighter
I thought these guys at Disney were supposed to be smart? Are you telling me a galactic empire encompassing thousands of advanced civilisations, experiences decades of technological stagnation, but can still dominate a galaxy with outdated military technology?
Hunter Russell
Hmm
Joshua Carter
technology doesnt really change at all in the star wars universe, even over thousands of years like most fantasy settings
Christian Cox
The space jihadis halted technological progress when they defeated the empire.
Nolan Flores
SR-71 can out fly an F-22
Cameron Perry
The tech from PT to OT was a pretty big jump
Justin Perry
>only 30 years have passed since luke skywalker defeated the empire >only 50 years since the fall of the jedi and rise of said empire >"The Jedi? Luke Skywalker? The Force? I though they were all myths?"
Why are there no historical records in such an """""advanced"""" civilisation?
Brandon Brooks
best thread of thre year
Oliver Lee
Thanks J.J Abrams. Once again your e knowledgeable expertise has tricked the normie movie going audience into thinking this film was great.
Jonathan Turner
In a dogfight, the f22 would destroy SR71 before the pilots would even see the raptor on the horizon. And the f22 has unrivalled manoeuvrability. It's like comparing an F1 car to a drag racer. They serve two different purposes
Jackson Powell
Can't you burgers learn from Vietnam?
Juan Kelly
Not everyone's on this site is American.
Angel Hughes
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Jeremiah King
K well that's stupid
Asher Butler
>I thought these guys at Disney were supposed to be smart
They're smart enough to treat the mainstream audience like dumbshits who only want thinly veiled remakes of familiar favorites.
Hopefully the change in the political and social winds will make the masses less easy to placate with this sort of shit.
Hudson Morales
The war in which the, most technologically advanced, US army crushed the Vietnamese army in some weeks?
Now that's cherry picking, guess he's just pretending to be retarded. Lets compare some "state of the art" military vehicles and try to tell me the 30 years old stands a chance.
Zachary Foster
Nigga they've had the same tech for like 4000 years according to KotOR.
Logan Stewart
The tiger was a piece of shit
Julian Murphy
Ah yes decisive US victory.
Cameron Morales
hyperspace technology has been a thing for 20,000 years theres a technological plateau in the star wars universe, i don't know why brainlets can't understand that star wars is the easiest fucking thing to understand and you can't even get that? fucking retard
Nathan Powell
A Ford Fiesta from 30 years ago can outrun a military tank
Joseph Johnson
of all the things to hate the sequel for, you find the most autistic and easily disprovable reasoning
idiot. In this case you are digging at a disgusting franchise, a franchise who started good but was seduced by the dark side a long time ago, but this kind of stupid, illogic, nerdy and autistic reasoning will be used against legitimate good movies, so you are a piece of shit
Alexander Evans
And yet the A7V couldn't even scratch it.
Keyword: Army, my shitposter friend.
Mason Morgan
This. Palpatine btfo the trade federation jews and ushered in an era of unprecedented construction boom but jihadI had to cock block
Cameron Lee
The Millennium Falcon was able to defeat the Tie fighters because Rey had recently scavenged that Star Destroyer and knew the layout. Finn also told her that the First Order Tie fighter radar was bad at low altitudes.
She didn't outskill them as much as she just outsmarted them.
Nathan Moore
They aren't smart They are ambitious
Dylan Baker
Star Wars is literally made for the lowest common denominator brainlets
It exists as a vehicle to sell toys, and needs to be simplistic by design to translate easily across multiple cultures.
Aaron Howard
As a Vietnamese guy, that was truly the darkest timeline. We could have been South Korea or Japan rich, but now we're a backwater that gets dominated by China a little more every year.
Hunter Taylor
I don't think people have really appreciated the implication of Starkiller tech
Ethan Walker
SW tech never made sense tho. Since the original trilogy the MF, basically a jury rigged space truck, was faster than most space fighters.
Robert Wright
Do Viet's in the west hate American leftists for whitewashing the crimes of the Vietcong, whilst demonising the American war effort in Vietnam?
Carson Reed
That's not remotely on the same scale as Starkiller Base.
Owen Wilson
3PBP
Isaiah Wood
The prequels showed a lot of advancements were being made in a relatively short amount of time.
Andrew Garcia
It was just a quick example, nerd. Nothing in SW tech makes sense.
William Richardson
I too would like an answer to this, would it only be true for South Vietnamese descendants?
Lucas Baker
>Many decades has passed since the events of Return of the Jedi
>Military technology, aesthetics and Ship design are still roughly the same.
>An aging Millennium Falcon can still out fly an Empires Tie fighter
Well they are STILL using Tie-Fighters.
Tyler Anderson
>the MF, basically a jury rigged space truck, The whole point of the Falcon is that it looks like a piece of shit, but is actually very formidable. This was established in SW'77. How did you miss this?
Josiah Harris
This, actually. What the fuck
Ayden Walker
>This was established in SW'77. How did you miss this? It won son race in less than something and can outrun a star destroyer, that's all. Outrunning a fucking fighter never made sense.
Lincoln Smith
so you're telling me that I need to turn my brain off in order to enjoy star wars?
Nathan Johnson
It's like holocaust denial that actually took off
Andrew Lewis
Unironically, yes. SW is fantasy in space, it never tried to be realistic nor logic.
Eli Butler
>outruns Star Destroyers >able to fight off TIE Fighters >Comes in and assists with destroying the Death Star Luke calling it a piece of junk was just a joke because the audience of 1977 had an expectation from sci-fi movies that the BEST ship would also look the BEST. This joke goes over peoples heads because now the MF is remembered as being one of the coolest sci-fi ships, but in 77 it was just some lumped together piece of crap with a cockpit strapped to the side of it.
Gavin Davis
Abrahms is a lazy cunt At least Rogue One had good looking ship and some originality in it
Ian Ortiz
Didn't the Empire go out of their way to purge any records of the Jedi?
James Brown
>moving the goalpost They were only able to do that because TIE pilots are as bad at their job as the Stormtroopers. MF isn't move maneuverable than a TIE and is slow.
Michael Howard
Every example I used was in the original Star Wars from 1977. Please explain how that is moving the goalpost?
Leo Walker
>original point about MF being slower than a TIE >it never outruns a TIE during the 77s movie The rest of your argument is anecdotal evidence and the Empire pilots being terrible at their job.
Thomas Allen
>MF pops out of hyperspace >TIE goes rushing past >Han pursues >says he is nearing on the tiny fighter before the Death Star grabs the MF with its tractor beam How could it have been nearing on the TIE unless it was faster? Let me guess, the pilot sucks? If that is your excuse for everything I say that contradicts your stupid claim then you are a terrible debater.
Gabriel Cooper
In Star Wars they go back literally thousands of wars with the tech, culture and political situation remaining nearly identical
It is space fantasy, the evil empire is always trying to conquer the galaxy
The good guys always struggle heroically and in between attacks live idyllic lifestyles of honor and peace
Christopher Wright
Well looks like someone realized they were wrong and fucked off.
Kevin Wood
Actually, someone realized that arguing with an idiot is a waste of time and ignored some aspie that needs to post 2 times to have the last word.
Levi Baker
So you are still here?
David Perez
The only ones who said they thought it was a myth were a girl on a backwater junkyard planet and a guy who had been brainwashed all his life.
Dylan Davis
The prequels are pieces of shit but they were at least made to expand the universe. The sequels are just about pandering to the audience and giving them what they want.
William Anderson
Trekkie detected
Gavin Scott
But nu-Trek is made for the lowest common denominator brainlets too.
Elijah Ortiz
it's because JJ is a nostalgia fucking hack
> battle of endor has: TIEs, TIE Interceptors, TIE Bombers, A-Wings, B-Wings, Y-Wings, X-Wings
> TFA has: muh x-wing, muh TIE. THAT'S IT
disgusting display of not respecting the canon and illustrates a surface respect of scifi storytelling
Connor Flores
Add your own examples
Kayden Lee
Yes they're all dumbass kids who cry "not real communism"
A mixed economic system is best imo, but communism belongs in the dustbin of history. Most nations that are still communist in name are moving towards mixed systems like China and Vietnam, if these kids want to have a "revolution" it'll just set the process back to square one.
Thomas Cook
see What is even the reason behind using AT-ATs there when AT-STs are better scouts for the Gorilla walkers?
Jason Garcia
Bro you obviouzly dont understand the military industrial complex.
Brayden Hall
It wouldn't matter even if the sequels were good. Star Wars fans will just hate anything new in the series no matter what. People are always going to bitch about something.
Austin Lewis
I'm not talking about in-universe technological advancement but rather about franchises design aesthetics. ARC fighter wasn't X-wing precursor (Z-95 was) but design wise it served as such in RotS.
Ryder Rivera
The trick is time. There will come along something much worse than Episode 7-9 which will make it look sophisticated in comparison.
Cameron Flores
Anything apart of Original trilogy shouldn't be concerned with.
Just ignore the shitpile that's being made, its not canon just like the prequels.
Jason King
Most military equipment is used for decades, if anything because replacing stuff too often is expensive.
During the napoleonic wars, the British had ships in service that were over a century old.
Canada has been and still is using the same F18 Hornets since the late 70s with upgrades, refits and repairs.
Carter Sanders
You mean star wars fans will drool and buy anything that has star wars logo on it and praise it like the next coming of jesus no matter how lazy and pandering it is.
How did you manage to write completely the opposite of what you meant?!
Christopher Price
>Janitor who can’t fly a TIE knows it’s technical limitations >Mary Sue who’s lived in a mud hut her whole life can outfly Imperial pilots and out Force Sith Lords
Nathaniel Rodriguez
Tech from PT wasn't worse than in OT.
The difference was the peaceful galaxy adapting to war and rediscovering military designs.
Technology in KOTOR era thousands of years ago is the same shit they have now.
Angel Adams
>dogfight >f22 has unrivalled manoeuvrability
Dude...
Alexander Moore
>strong independent woman who’s lived in a mud hut her whole life can outfly white, male, supremacist, pilots and out force shitlords 10/10 film, you biggot.