Where did this come from

> see Korrasami fan-art
> think it's pretty hot
> love the dynamic of a physically strong character subdued by a physically weaker but mentally stronger one
> expect Asami to have some sort of leadership role and get off to a rocky start with Korra but their relationship getting stronger and warmer across seasons
> see the show
> nothing even remotely like that
> Asami is a pretty flat character with no influence over Korra

Where did this meme of Asami being the dominating one come from? Tumblr? Is that some sort of lesbian fetish?

It is femdom related but tumblr didn't invent the fetish

I think it's because KYHU/IAHFY was one of the more...influential...Korrasami artists and she always drew dom!Asami.

>Where did this meme of Asami being the dominating one come from? Tumblr? Is that some sort of lesbian fetish?
>> love the dynamic of a physically strong character subdued by a physically weaker but mentally stronger one

It's your own fault for having that fetish and wanting it to flourish so much that you want to see it in places where it is not. And the meme that Asami is the dominate one came from a combination of sources where at least one person has such a fetish and mentioned it and then others capitalized on it.

Probably this , but it's not an uncommon narrative for these sorts of characters. Korra, despite being physically tough, just doesn't have a dom personality. Meanwhile Asami is much more of a go getter and intelligent both in sciences and businesses, or at least the show tried to portray. These sorts of traits in relationships tend to be portrayed with the smarter one dominating the stronger one. Korra's also kind of annoying to pretty much anyone with half a brain, so her getting a little punishment rubs a lot of people the right way.

And it comes from people projecting hard onto Asami because they wanted to see someone who wasn't Mako fix Korra, a character they hated but at the same time wanted to fuck. Bolin was out of the running and Asami was bland yet tragic enough that they latched onto her. I don't think I've ever met a Korrasami fan who actually likes Korra.

OP, stop thinking with your dick.

Also, explain to me the appeal of lesbians.

No, seriously.. What's the point of watching women masturbating each other when you can watch them actually get fucked?

0 men = less gay.

>expect Asami to have some sort of leadership role and get off to a rocky start with Korra but their relationship getting stronger and warmer across seasons

>this actually describes Mako and Korra's relationship

If you agree one woman is good, then it stands to reason two is better. That's like asking why you'd want to watch a woman masturbate period. What's wrong with you?

There's 2 men

>What's the point of watching women masturbating each other when you can watch them actually get fucked?
Is that your penis on screen, user? Is that your penis fucking them? Stop staring at other mens' dicks anonymous.

Replied to the wrong post (was discussing how gay is Futa in another thread). Anyway, it's not about being gay or not, but the fact that there is literally nothing happening.

>but the fact that there is literally nothing happening.

>If you agree one woman is good, then it stands to reason two is better
One women getting FUCKED is good. To you get off to woman simply showing their boobs as well?

>That's like asking why you'd want to watch a woman masturbate period
Why would you do that when you can watch them get fucked?

>>this actually describes Mako and Korra's relationship
Mako's relationship with Korra is "if I stick by her, maybe I'll get screentime despite having no purpose in the show anymore since my original goal was to get out of poverty and now that I have a job which I apparently couldn't get before because of no reason or reasons I can now make it financially."

i want Angela to molest Hana :3

Do you get off to masturbation instead of actual porn? Sorry, but that's worst than Ecchi fags.

>One women getting FUCKED is good. To you get off to woman simply showing their boobs as well?
Um, yes? Seriously, what's wrong with you?

I guess the real question is why is penetration that important to you? Orgasm is orgasm.

>Um, yes?
So you have access to a massive amount of hardcore, softcore, and all kinds of weird porn with the internet.. And you decided to watch woman showing their boobs to masturbate?

Well you can apply that argument to a majority of the supporting cast, especially Asami. I was just pointing out that Mako and Korra actually got more of what user described in terms of their development, while Korra and Asami skipped the strained part because... I don't know. The writers never cared about exploring Asami as a character? Her and Korra just skipping to the "oh we're okay with each other, girl power :)" part of their relationship was lazy.

>why is sex important so you can masturbate?
seriously?

Asami is passive, understanding and supportive, which is the right kind of personality to mesh well with Korra's. Asami wants to be protected and feel safe, and she wants to feel useful to other people. That's exactly what Korra would need in a partner based on her personality.

Big egos like Mako, Bolin or Kuvira could never be compatible with Korra in a relationship. She needs balancing, not agitating and challenging.

>Wanting to see other mans dick in his porn
user, get out of the closet. You're gayer than Iceman.

>I don't think I've ever met a Korrasami fan who actually likes Korra.
I actually like Korra

tfw it was Pharmercy that got me exposed to Korrasami pics

Figures
some of the best fan-art I've seen came from her

>Do you get off to masturbation instead of actual porn?
If you get off to watching porn and not participating in it, then there's no penetration by your own doing so your orgasm is pointless and meaningless by your own standard.

While this does not address OP's issue with the origins of Asami being dominating over Korra, it does make a very good point of illustrating why Korra and Asami were a good match

Sex without penetration is still sex. Why do you disagree?

Especially in women most of the nerves related to orgasm are not in the vagina. Why do you believe it is important?

Pharmercy is the Korrasami of Overwatch. Both are fucking trash. Pic is pure kinoship

I'll take Korrasami over Pharmercy any day, and I don't even like Korrasami.

The big problem is all those traits are overshadowed by how damn passive she is. I expect her to fly out of the comics like she did two out of four of the finales.

Because I'm actually attracted to women, I can get off to them in many states. Here's a question: when you see a woman, do you have to think about her getting raped by octopusses to find her attractive? Or get aroused?

I'm just saying, you might just be fucked in the head, my friend. It's okay if you're fine with that, but you should know that YOU are the weird one.

I just figured, since OP had the wrong idea about the Korra/Asami dynamic, I'd provide my point of view on what their dynamic actually is like to help clear the air

>there's no penetration
there is literally penetration happening there. The thing is, what you're fantasizing about? normally you put yourself in the man's place basically. But if there are two women, what do you do?

nothing. You're literally fantasizing about two women masturbating instead of you fucking a woman.

>Where did this meme of Asami being the dominating one come from?
I'm going to be perfectly real with you. It's all the result of the raceplay fetish.

I hate Widow ships but even I kinda like MercyMaker.

>The thing is, what you're fantasizing about? normally you put yourself in the man's place basically.

Protip: most people don't do this

>I expect her to fly out of the comics like she did two out of four of the finales.

There's actually more hope of Asami having the spotlight in the main storyline this time around, given she's the main character's love interest now and she features heavily on the second cover with the villain. At least, more hope then there ever was in the TV series that failed to give good attention to any specific main characters except for Korra, Villains, and "Characters That Have To Do With Aang's Legacy".

speaking like a true bloofag

Well Korra and Asami had 4 seazons of character building, far more than Pharah / Mercy will ever get

>Sex without penetration is still sex
is Kissing sex as well in your standards?

>Especially in women most of the nerves related to orgasm are not in the vagina
Wait, why do you even care about the women having an orgasm?

>do you have to think about her getting raped by octopusses to find her attractive
No, but i must think of having actual sex with her, while you're thinking of another woman masturbating her. Seriously, explain me your logic.

Honestly nothing at this point could make me like Asami, she was tarnished by being Bryan's waifu and her shitty fanbase. I actually feel an irrational annoyance at seeing her share a cover with Korra like that and how people have started billing her as the second lead in the series now. She got that spot because she's a love interest, not because she's a good character.

Mako and Bolin got attention, Asami had less going for her and it's like they didn't know what to do with her half the time

I'm more curious about how you apparently don't see anything appealing about a woman masturbating.

>most people don't do this
Honestly, if you fantasize about women having sex by themselves instead of actually trying to include yourself.. most people don't agree with you.

>I expect her to fly out of the comics
I've got my 3D glasses ready just for this occasion.

>Her and Korra just skipping to the "oh we're okay with each other, girl power :)" part of their relationship was lazy.
Korra was handling the strained part of the relationship in season 1 by not liking Asami just because Mako went with Asami with his internal justification being it made more sense. The whole thing is off because it centered around some insipid love triangle rather than a challenge of ideals or outlooks.

>There's actually more hope of Asami having the spotlight in the main storyline this time around
Literally Cancer. She should have been ditched in S01.

Yeah it's really stupid that people call her the Zuko of LOK. She flip flops between struggling over what happened between her and Hiroshi and making jokes about it. Her conflict involving him gets introduced and resolved in one episode and then only comes back so she can watch him die. I'm torn between feeling bad for her fans who genuinely know she's a shit character and just wanting her to be fridged.

>is Kissing sex as well in your standards?

Kissing doesn't lead to orgasm.

>Wait, why do you even care about the women having an orgasm?

And this is where I tap out. Continue to enjoy sex where you're the only person getting off, I guess. That's not normal though and you might want to talk to a sex therapist.

I'm curious how you find it more appealing than.. well.. ANY other kind of porn that features actual sex. The feeling for lesbos is just "oh, boobs, yay" but nothing more than that. With time it just becomes "what a waste of good art".

Yeah, i really hate WidowTracer, good think Blizz canon murdered that shit.

Pharahcucks need to be gassed. Pharah can have Symmetra, worst girls should stick together .

I liked her thing with her dad in Book 4. Your father trying to kill you years passed, and then trying to reconcile those feelings before the dad rots and dies in prison, is a pretty compelling character moment.

But it didn't really change Asami's character, it just re-confirmed what you could already infer about her character before that point, she's a compassionate and forgiving type of person.

That's why it didn't really leave a big impact, because it's not like Asami was shown to hold grudges in the past, so it's not really an arc. Just character... affirmation, I guess. Asami spends all of her non-inventing/driving things screentime trying to hold together her dad's company without him and worrying about Korra.

I guess she's really good at Pai Sho. Maybe Asami will force Korra to establish standardized Pai Sho rules as her great act as Avatar.

>I'm torn between feeling bad for her fans who genuinely know she's a shit character and just wanting her to be fridged.
Her fans have an image of her that isn't Asami and that's what they defend when her character is called into question. Fanfiction and most fanart that depicts her may as well be an original character with how they portray her.

>Kissing doesn't lead to orgasm
Sex doesn't always leads to orgasm either. Your point?

>Continue to enjoy sex where you're the only person getting off
THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT YOU'RE DOING. YOU'RE MASTURBATING.

>Blizz makes Tracer canon lesbian
>"murdered that shit"

>No, but i must think of having actual sex with her, while you're thinking of another woman masturbating her.
No, I just like attractive women. When I see them they give me erections and I handle them by spraying inconveniently messy goo all over the place. I understand the self-insertion part but it is simply not necessary for most people, and you can do that even when it's two women. I mean, if there's any point at all before the fucking or imagined fucking takes place that you find a woman attractive, then it really shouldn't matter all that much. If you have to see a woman get fucked to get off to her, there's a problem.

By giving her a different character as a girlfriend.

>more appealing
Who are you quoting?

KYHU had more influence over Korrasami than the writers of the show themselves.
She goes a long way to making the ship popular, they might not have even hamfisted it in at the end were it not for her. Not that it's KYHU's fault that Bryke are creatively bankrupt, integrity-less fan panderers.

They gave her a girlfriend. Also Tracer doesn't like Widow but people like to forget that.

Yeah, see, regardless of how you feel about the core cast, a lot of them DID change over the course of the series. Bolin was at least able to mature a bit to hold down a girlfriend for three years and was starting to find a calling in helping people.

Asami... starts the series as a sweet, sad rich girl who can be passive-aggressive and ends the series as a sweet, sad rich girl. The best thing they could have done for her is have her lose the company, but then Korra would be out of her main source of transportation and we can't have that.

>Korrasami becoming so popular was basically her doing
>she couldn't even get into the Nucleus art show
lol

>it is simply not necessary for most people
Yurifags are the minority. Seriously, you just sounds like some kind of cuck that will just let women have all the pleasure and that somehow makes you feel better.

>if there's any point at all before the fucking or imagined fucking takes place that you find a woman attractive
Exactly. That point is BEFORE. Why not proceed? It's literally inferior.

Also, if you masturbate to it, this means you think it is superior to normal porn. Why would NOT fuck a woman brings more pleasure to you?

>>she couldn't even get into the Nucleus art show
All her art looks the same. Every woman has the same body type and face at that three-fourth profile angle.

What do you mean? if it is not more appealing then why watch it?

Pharmercy will never happen, the lead writer has a huge boner for Genji(self-insert) and Mercy. He would never let anything come between him and his waifu

IIRC she submitted more of her artsy stuff which wasn't bad (there were a few of really trippy book 2 Korras) but yeah it looks like she never tries that stuff anymore and has just fallen back to drawing Korra and Asami with the same expressions doing a different sexy pose in each picture.

Also they probably ran background checks on all the artists and found all that porn she drew.

>Pharahcucks need to be gassed. Pharah can have Symmetra, worst girls should stick together .
Pharah can Mercy, the girl she interacts with and has plenty in common with
Widow has the only thing she deserves: Gerard

I liked the interactions with her dad as well but that was about the only interesting she had going for her in the series
She never had any real struggle to deal with (oh no my company is going bankrupt - never felt sorry for that sort of shit)

>The best thing they could have done for her is have her lose the company
Asami losing everything except the company would be a change though. Through her own efforts she kept something unlike how she lost Mako and her father for a time then forever at the end.
Bolin didn't mature, Opal was already doing a blushing act from the get-go so no effort was put into that relationship and was simply something that had to happen so Bryke could keep legacy characters around by pulling strings.

Tbf most artists draw a lot of porn, that shouldn't disqualify anyone unless they just weren't sure about ages or something.

>MAKO THE COMPANY IS ALL I HAVE LEFT OF MY FAMILY REEEEEEEE

Like did Bryke not realize how badly that painted Asami's parents? She literally had nothing else to remember them by?

>Asami losing everything except the company would be a change though
Yeah, which would have been good for her character.

>Through her own efforts she kept something unlike how she lost Mako
I think you forgot how her plot was handed off to Mako and Bolin and how much that pissed off her fans. All her big innovative business deals happen when nobody's fucking looking.

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>Like did Bryke not realize how badly that painted Asami's parents? She literally had nothing else to remember them by?
If she said she only had her memories then they' hit her with amnesia.

>masturbation is objectively better than sex!
Stop it, man.

>Yeah, which would have been good for her character.
>Korra loses her past lives and identity and self-worth on screen
>Asami loses her father and company and her way of life on screen
>Mako gets to date both of them before they start losing things and keep what he has plus gets more on screen
>Bolin gets to hang around and make noises and keeps what he has plus gets more on screen
?

You understand you are not actually fucking a woman, right? You're yanking your pud just like the rest of us. And for some reason, you require another man to be in the equation to do it. Do I jack it to girls getting pounded by dudes? Yes, but it's not necessary. In fact, sometimes it's shit. Just some dude pumping away while a girl pretends to enjoy it, often times getting more shot of the dude than the girl. Fantastic stuff, really. At least with two girls faking it I get a 100% good view. The sex simulation comes in when you jack your rank rod. You think when you have sex you're thinking "Yeah, I'm having sex! I'm penetrating this girl with my penis!" No. You're just getting off, and there's an attractive girl around you to make things a little easier.

>cuck
Jesus Christ, I'm talking to a moron. Nevermind, friend.

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I have no idea what you're trying to say, except maybe you disagree with me that Asami losing her company could have lead her character down an interesting path.

>You understand you are not actually fucking a woman, right
The point is to want, while with lesbians you're just watching them masturbate.

>you require another man to be in the equation to do it
No, just actual sex. Which needs a man. Also, the point is not can/can't, but what is BETTER. You could fap to one picture of a girl showing her boobs, but why not fap to the thousands of good sex videos on the internet?

>sometimes it's shit
Yeah, but then you look for better porn, you don't look for lesbian (which is inferior).

>At least with two girls faking it I get a 100% good view
Good view of a masturbation.

>sex needs a man
If you think sex is nothing beyond a penis in a vagina then I feel sorry for the women you sleep with. Lesbians are probably way better at sex than you are.

>No, just actual sex. Which needs a man

Aren't you just watching a man and a woman masturbate, though?

yes but he'll pretend it's different

If there is no hole getting fucked, its not sex.

Its how we divide It. Otherwise a simple Kiss would be labelled as sex.

>Hurr durr you don't fuck a fleshlight
Dont be dense. You need one person entering another with his penis. Otherwise, any kind of touch would be sex.