So does this make Nextwave dated or does the joke still work even though Brexit is happening?

So does this make Nextwave dated or does the joke still work even though Brexit is happening?

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More hilarious in retrospect

The thing that actually dates it is the fact that most people reading it now probably haven't read anything Ultimate and won't get the joke

Ironic thing is she's more American than Americans are.

Do you think Elsa voted Leave or Remain?

Leave.

She doesn't strike me as somebody who's down with democracy to begin with, so she would certainly vote remain.

It never really made sense, because Britain never used the Evro, did they?

The Euro sign didn't make much sense at any point because the British never adopted the Euro.

Funny thing is, this is exactly how stupid Captain America looks like to us non-Muricans.

>jokes

yeah clearly

she also licked a goat like all leavers

>elect people to a parliament where they outright refuse to do their jobs and act in your interest
>keep voting for them when they tell you nobody out there is acting in your interest
>won't buy ugly bananas so importers don't even try selling them to you
>"why can't bananas be any shaaaape waaaah"
>benefit from open borders
>Ireland must go back to the troubles! Gibraltar must be closed off from Spain and kept British even though remain vote was over 90%!

c'mon m8 you're smarter than this

you're not even trolling at this point, just rolling around in blood threatening to stab yourself again

>Ireland must go back to the troubles!
Only until the Damned Orange Men finally fuck off

Maybe she'll be retconned to be Scottish.
Those guys would rather leave GB than the EU if it were up to them.

>i'd rather have an eternity of violence than accept something more than 90% of people in EIRE and NI voted for in 1998
>everyone knows twenty years of peace just leaves you itching for another Omagh

Yeah, well they're not going to get a choice from the looks of it. May decided that they're not going to allow another independence referendum.

>rather have an eternity of violence than accept something more than 90% of people in EIRE and NI voted for in 1998

It was a ruse

>c'mon m8 you're smarter than this

I'm from continental Europe, user. I'm endlessly baffled that the EU parliament seems to give more fucks about the people than our national parliaments.

>mfw I hate England and Hate Germany more
>mfw Brexit is the ultimate Win for Columbia

I want them gone, desu

>benefit from open borders
I don't think most people have benefited from cultural enrichment

Originally, it was fine, because only good Countries were in the EU. Once they let in the shit ones, poor people stormed in.

At least the EU hasn't gone full retard and let in Turkey. The Nukes won't even work then

>he drank the Brexit cool aid.

The funny thing now, is that the EU will take decision and you will have no say in the matter. Your country basically give up his weight in the world balance.

>Implying the Anglo-Alliance isn't immediately Nascent

The only way for England to mater again is to become a new State of the USA.

THE US will be thrilled at first, but tne they will feel disappointed once they realise Scotland is not part of the package.

How are the UK people feeling about Scottland leaving and messing with their flag?

England, AUS, NZ, and America will Unite in Confederacy.

All the Proper Anglic Nations

Fuck off fag, Aussies love cap you unpatriotic lower than shark shit scoundrel

I've heard a lot of retards lately talk about this except they aren't being ironic and genuinely think it will happen.

>He still denies the Memes
Fool, have you yet to learn?

As a Dane, I hoped that the Brits would vote to remain, since now Denmark is the odd one out in the EU. Before we at least had the UK to back us up, so that we didn't stand out as much.
I'd rather have had them remain so we could try and fix the shitshow that is the modern EU, but I know that we're too small to do it alone, so that won't happen now.
I can see us leaving in the next couple of years too, if shit continues on as it does now.

This was my thought too.

On one hand, Britain being one of the EU's big three could lead it to checking Germoney and France, but on the other, that wasn't really working.

If Britain manages to be moderately successful, it could lead to other Euroskeptic states leaving. If more paying states leave, Germany will have to pay all the leeches alone.

I mean, I don't hold anything against them for choosing to leave, but I had hoped that we could be able to fix things instead of just letting it crash and burn.

Well we've got a President now declaring a direct trade deal with Britain to be on the table. Instead of a President threatening to put Britain at the back of the line.

Some say if Obama had just kept his mouth shut remain might have been able to pull out a win.

Nah it wasn't going to happen. When their solution to problems was "Well lets create are own EU Army." Yea something is going Reich.

I can't believe he made such a misstep, going to Britain and saying "If you don't vote this way America's going to basically disown you" was a pretty blatant threat.

I don't know what he thought the reaction would be.

Viva Le Pen!

Bigger dark horse than Trump if she manages to make it. Nobody thinks she's going to make it past the first round.

It's clear that the German/Belgians are trying to create a European Super State.

I don't want to go full Sup Forums, but that may be a reason they're so eager to introduce a large group of people with more allegiance to the EU than to any Independent Nation.

If it were truly Humanitarian, you'd think they'd want to make sure that most of the people they're letting in are the people fleeing from a war.

Unfortunately that's what happens when you decide to write in a real world reference in a book. It's great at the time, but when you read it years later it doesn't make much sense. And the worst part is, a lot of people don't realize you should read/watch things with the perspective of it having taken place then instead of now

>I don't know what he thought the reaction would be.
Satan please, you know what he thought would happen

>I don't know what he thought the reaction would be.

That people would do what the US tells them to do simply by virtue of them being told what to do by the US. Like most US politicians, he hasn't realized that the US dropped in popularity in the last 16 years.

>EIRE
is that an acronym? no?

Eire is the name for Ireland, referring to The Republic of Ireland.

He could've put it a bit more tactfully and gone on about the importance for alliances but he had to go with the we're gonna fuck you over if you don't do it our way approach.

>design your headquarters to look like the Tower of Babel
>put swastikas in your recruitment propaganda

The EU is weird.

Nah they know exactly what they are. Rest of Europe just doesn't get it yet.

Came here to post this.

That doesn't seem like something that Cap would say. I know that's Ultimate Cap, but still. Is he really that different?

Yeah, he's a fucking douchebag.

It's about votes and cheap labor, man. The elites pushing for immigration don't care about the discord and danger because they're safe and secure in their plush fortresses.

Ultimate Cap is actually one of the rare characters of the Ultimate Universe to not be a complete Asshole. This comic pge here showcase him a bit out of character.

To better understand the context of this comic, it was done when Jacques Chirac, then President of the French republic, officially anounced he will not support the US on their invasion of Iraq. Back, the, France Foolishly believed that such a war would increase terrorism rather than quell it. How silly of them.

Ultimate Cap from Ultimate America!
He's the Goddamn Captain

It's about providing protection for people fleeing conflict.

A similar conundrum was faced by the UK when they had to deal with Jewish refugees, at the risk of letting in Nazi spies.

Another problem is that a bunch of them aren't fleeing anything besides shitty economies.
The biggest problem is figuring out who an actual refugee and who's just a migrant.

>a bunch of them aren't fleeing anything besides shitty economies.
I can pretty much guarantee you Syria is a fucking hellhole, though.

Dude was an asshole for the longest time until Ultimate Spidey took the bullet for him that would've killed Cap but ended up killing Spidey (this happened after Cap chewed him out for being too inadequate to be a hero even though Peter idolized the guy.) Cap stops being Cap for a while as a result, then comes back a more humble hero that also becomes president for a bit.

>but on the other, that wasn't really working.
Because GB had to be a special little snowflake that just wanted to exploit the EU for benefits while contributing as little as possible. Of course nobody listened to them.

Well France is certainly surrendering now to the Muslims. You'd think the 40s would have taught them their lesson.

>France
>not giving up
Pick one

>second highest contributor to the EU
>contributing as little as possible
m8

Yes. He's a real man out of time, he's a 1940s guy with 1940s values who can't socialize with people his age and spends all his time in old folks homes.

That page lacks context, later on he admits it was kind of stupid and a spur of the moment thing. He wasn't really sure what he was thinking.

He's a flawed character, purposefully so.

Sup Forums bitches and moans because despite Ultimate being a fresh clean slate brimming with potential for new takes on old ideas, they just wanted it to be the same old shit. Now it is.
Hooray.

I still can't believe this is written by the same man who made Cap surrender in Civil War

And most people are fine with letting Syrians in, since their country is war torn, they have, or at least had, ISIS breathing down their neck, and they're some of the more "compatible" middle eastern countries do to their large population of Christians, and relatively good education.
The problem is all the people from north Africa, where the only problem is the countries being shitholes.

Meh, pretty much everybody bent over backwards to accomodate the Brits, but the pigfucker decided that he would totally take the gamble when the british media had been reporting about the EU the way the german media's reporting on the US for well over two decades.

They pretty much were allowed to dictate the general framework of EU politics whenever neither Germany nore France felt that issues of national policy were at stake.

People keep saying that's it's the new take on the character, but most likely it's what hack faggot Millar thinks being cool and righteous is supposed to be like. In the same ark he wrote Banner as a pathetic beta manchild who assaults women on his power trips and gets bullied for laughs.

>but that may be a reason they're so eager to introduce a large group of people with more allegiance to the EU than to any Independent Nation.

Jesus Christ, are you even from Eurasia?

>It's clear that the German/Belgians are trying to create a European Super State.
And the problem with this is...?

It's funnier now, because the emblem on her chest represents failure and the ruined dreams of corrupt elderly bureaucrats.

>Well France is certainly surrendering now to the Muslims
Not really. Don't believe all memes are true.

The EU did not "let people in".
The Greeks had no capacity to stop them, and the hungarians waved them on, often giving them busses.
The EU has no real control over external migrant policy.

>First episode of Season 3
>Rick causes the space EU to implode by destroying the space Euro

Beautiful.

>I'd rather have had them remain so we could try and fix the shitshow that is the modern EU,
We've been trying for forty fucking years. Did you not see Cameron trying to sort it out before the referendum?
>Fix the CAP? No.
>Fix the CFP? No.
>Stop the Strasbourg shuffle? No.
The EU laughed in his face, which is why Remain focused on the economic difficulties of leaving.
That and Obama's threats were probably the two things that swung it for Leave.

Most Europeans don't see themselves as European, besides their country being located on the continent. Most of the earlier countries that joined the EU did so because it's pretty good to be able to trade with your neighbors on equal terms.
But most countries have nothing in common culturewise. The north have nothing in common with the south, and the west have nothing in common with the east.
People don't want to have other countries to decide what's best for them, and would rather be able to govern themselves, and keep the values that they hold dear.

>The Greeks had no capacity to stop them
The Greeks used to just shoot them.

I think I'm just a bit too optimistic that they would actually be able to see reason with how the actual populations of the countries are reacting to their shit. But I guess that they are too dead set on their dumb little mega state at this point that it's to no avail.

Obama was such a jackass.

The only people who think like this are either hyper-liberal american retards or hyper-Socialist European retards.

The EU has hampered UK growth for at least a decade now.

We were the third biggest contributor behind France and Germany.

The issue was the UK had little to no say in the EU because Germany and france would countermand every proposal.

I like the fact that you are skirting around issues such as Spain being autistic enough to start making threats about Gibraltar and threatening to support Scottish independence when they have their own issues with the Basque separatists

If the EU also bang on about Northern Ireland the US is going to have to get involved again like in the Good Friday agreement


>>benefit from open borders

yeah until Merkel let everyone and their dog into Europe and even then that was only the employers

Obama was a real tool in the end

Europeans would lose their identity.
It doesn't work because Europeans are too different from each other.

European countries at least have some interest in keeping Russia and China at bay. Also maybe the US, too if Trump actually manages to pass bills at some point.

The Ireland issue is solved by giving everyone Dual Citizenship like Turkey does with germany anyway, so this whole "B-But Northern ireland" thing is literally nothing but EU propaganda.

Earlier panels imply that Elsa equates America with having a victim complex. I like to think that she supports the Eurozone's ideals of cooperation and not blaming forn'ners for all your problems.

Elsa is unlikely to suffer any consequences as a result of Brexit because she is an impossibly wealthy immortal monster hunter.

Ultimate Cap represents modern America as imagined by Mark Millar, who is a shit. 616 Cap represents the idealism of 40s/50s America as imagined by a bunch of pretty liberal New York jews.

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When was the last time the US president wasn't a jackass?

>Europeans would lose their identity.

Unless the EU turns the whole subcontinent into the Netherlands geographically, that isn't going to happen.

Brexit gives Germany near-unchecked sway in Europe while France keeps hamstringing itself politically and economically and little opposition once it stops.
With the main European trade market moving to Frankfurt, ongoing weakness of the South and most of the rest firmly rallied to Merkel's cause, this could be the road to the USE.
GB could well fall apart with Gibraltar and Scotland out, Ireland uninterested in being divided again and England without friends in Europe.
Either Germany wins (more influenxe over EU, more support for integration) or everybody loses (Europe divided again), as it seems right now.

Well, nothing says pro-EU like a Euro fanshirt.

Roosevelt?

>everybody loses (Europe divided again)

Why is this a loss? The continent has 2,000 years of history of being "divided". In fact the EU is just building more animosity between the nations as internal faults now become external problems for everyone else.

So let me get this straight. The UK is going to lose Scotland and Gibraltar because a third world country says so, while the UK has finally thown off it's biggest shackle ever.

Fun fact mr EU shill, the EU crashed New Zealands economy because it vetoed New Zealand trading with the UK.

Teddy or FDR?

Because in the 2000 years of countries being divided, we've never had peace between all of them for over 70 years and counting.

>Why is this a loss?

We went from 1.5 wars every year to no wars for seventy years and the half of our continent that was turned into Russkie colonies regained their freedom as well.

Dunno why we'd want to go back to Russkies rolling tanks over our folks while we're being forced to kill each other ever again.

Teddy at least. Don't know too much about Franklin, to be honest.

>the EU crashed New Zealands economy

The weak should fear the strong.

If a union is responsible for this why hasn't there been a war between other western nations that aren't in a union?

Also, you confused NATO with the EU, please don't do that. It's NATO that halted Russian expansion, not the EU.

Not really the motto the EU goes by. New Zealand was doing fantastic with the UK as a trading partner so the EU stepped in to stop it.

Now the UK is out of the EU, and already is looking to strengthen the commonwealth with Australia and New Zealand giving a big thumbs up.

I work for a software recruitment firm and we often deal with Immigration to new Zealand and Australia. These have only increased. Hell, Australia was talking about free movement between the UK and Australia and as a Commonwealth ideal.

That's what Europhiles always fail to see; the UK has the commonwealth and always had the commonwealth.

>it's another "user contributes the victories of NATO to the EU" episode

So you have never been on a European university campus.
Young people tend to see themselves as Europeans often even before a national identity.
And while they are very different from one another, they do share values and interests.
Source: My life surrounded by European people from different countries living together with little to no problems.
It really seeps into the families when relatives of various nationality are the norm rather than the exception.
And even if you are in a Polish backwater where no tourist ever comes, you will find the store stocked with cheap European products you could not afford without EU trading. Cheese from Netherlands, France, Germany. Wine from Italy and Portugal. Spanish sausages vegetables. Feta and olive oil from Greece. A car from a Czech brand owned by a German conglomerate assembled by Romanian workers from Irish parts.
Believe you me, there is a lot of good reasons for people to stay in the EU.

>If a union is responsible for this why hasn't there been a war between other western nations that aren't in a union?

Greece and Turkey had a war, Russia re-invaded plenty of its colonies, the Balkans imploded.

I'm sorry, but why would NZ try to have a bilateral agreement with GB before they are out of the EU?
Such an agreement would probably violate European law, anyway.
Otherwise they could not interfere.

>university campus

Spoilers: the ones most detrimentally effected by the EU don't go to university.

Because the EU regulates trading from into the EU.

The same thing happened last year with Chinese Steel, EU vetoed the UK deal.

You're not from the UK are you?