Pulp thread

Let's talk about the predecessors of superheroes
What are your favorite pulp magazines ?

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Unfortunately I've barely read any of the classic Shadow comics, let alone any of the pulp magazines.

AFAIK it's not all that well collected or easy to find. Any recommendations?

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some solid recs, as long as you are not too triggered by opinionated metalheads

You can start with the radio programs first. They are easier to find online. The best episodes are the ones starring Bret Morrison and Orson Welles.
Good thing about The Shadow is that you can pretty much start from anywhere (although it helps to at least read up on the character's history and importance).
The recent Matt Wagner comics are pretty good in case you can't find the older pulps.

If you want more, this guy made two videos about The Shadow with some great recommendations.
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There's a complete collection of Shadow epubs somewhere, but I lost it when my last computer crashed and can't find it again. If you check out pulp threads often enough someone is bound to post it eventually. There's also reprints available if you want to buy them.
Edgar Rice Burroughs stuff is also great. Most of Tarzan and John Carter is public domain, and those two are definitely proto-superheroes.
I once read a volume of The Spider and thought it was really good too, but I don't know a good place to get them.
I think The Avenger and Doc Savage both have new volumes coming out if you want to check them out.

Cool. I really love the Superman radio show so I'll probably enjoy the Shadow one.

>read

Hah. No, but I have listened to many episodes of the radio show though. I like The Shadow and X-minus One, but found green hornet too boring and tongue on cheek.

what would be a good point to start with the Phantom? apparently this stuff is huge in europe to this day

the thing with the radio show is that most of the episodes you find online are in shit quality, I understand its a miracle we can still hear the recordings in the current year of our lord 2017, but sometimes you have to crank the volume up to kingdom come and you will still have trouble understanding the old time american accents

Razor is pretty cringy but I like his comic recommendations

his videos on Daredevil and Elric are pretty solid too, dont know much about the Metal Mythos since Im not into that but they seem pretty thorough

if I loved Howard's Conan stories would I like Kull? is he really distinct from Conan or is it true he's just proto-Conan?

Well since Conan literally started out as an edited Kull story, some similarities are to be expected. Regardless the Kull stories are worth reading if you're a Howard/Conan fan since it takes place in the same universe and will liikely shed light on the history of Conan's world.

His Mythos videos are fine, even if soem of his opinions are questionable. Most of Razor's cringe come from his shit taste in games and political views. He's also one of those autists that thinks Geralt from The Witcher is a ripoff of Elric.

never played the witcher, but if you look both characters side by side it kinda remids you of the old marvel/dc habit of making response superheroes

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>have complete collection of magazines in pdf format
>Caliber converts it to epub almost
perfectly
>too lazy to manually fix things

kek these threads are always so pathetic, get over it grandpas

Could you post a link to the PDFs?

Mah nigga, X-Minus One is good stuff. I listen to that on my way to work.

I read the phantom in the sunday newspaper.

it's still pretty fun.

Any good Solomon Kane comics out there?

Torrents would be your best bet. The web based download site that people used to post was blogicalthoughts.com/2011/01/08/ebooks-2/ but it's 404. I went on an archive.org quest and managed to find:

web-beta.archive.org/web/20141026140213/http://www.blogicalthoughts.com/2011/01/08/shadow-magazine-1931/

This will get you the earliest pulps, enough to get a flavor for him but since he was published over decades and later on by different writers the style did change.

Finding the rest of the pulps are sadly a bust, which is a shame. The Shadow has an interesting connection with the origins of Batman, who was largely styled after The Shadow complete with a penchant for the villain dying at the end of the story. The very first Batman adventure was actually lifted from a Shadow pulp, but a much later one that I cannot find access to yet.

They're fun and in some ways better than Superman since the serial nature of his program often left gaps in the adventures where no recording is known to exist, something I find incredibly frustrating.

Naturally you can find The Shadow on youtube and torrents, however here's a decent collection of The Shadow online:

otrrlibrary.org/OTRRLib/Library Files/R Series/Rudy Vallee - Valle Varieties/S Series/Shadow, The/

While not completely comprehensive it offers some of the relatively recently discovered Shadow stories which include:

Murder by Rescue
Fountain of Death
He Died at Twelve
The Mine Hunters
The Witch Drums of Salem
The Old People
The Black Buddha
The Voice of the Trumpet

Sadly it's still missing quite a few, such as:

Professor X
Revenge on the Shadow
The Hospital Murders
The Reincarnation of Michael
The Mark of the Bat

There was another source that provided these but it's since vanished from the web.

Actually try this one: otrrlibrary.org/OTRRLib/Library Files/S Series/Shadow, The/

That should get the missing episodes.

There's a lot of old super hero themed old time radio programs.

The Green Hornet
archive.org/details/TheGreenHornet

The Blue Beetle (not too many episodes, sadly)
archive.org/details/OTRR_Blue_Beetle_Singles

The Lone Ranger
archive.org/details/The_Lone_Ranger_Page_01

Scarlet Pimpernel
archive.org/details/The_Scarlet_Pimpernel

Zorro
archive.org/details/AdventuresOfZorro

The Avenger
oldradioworld.com/shows/Avenger.php

The Whisperer
archive.org/details/TheWhisperer_420

And that's just leaving out the scifi pulps which often had Saturday morning programs and comics of their own.

>I also happen to have recordings that OTR doesn't

PLANET MAAAAN!
oldradioworld.com/shows/Planet_Man.php

Be sure to check out the rest of what they offer.

audible has a bunch of shadow shows, dont know how they compare with those you find loose online

anybody got torrents for these?

>by Lamont Cranston
Kek.

Fantastic Four had a pretty good radio series too. Stan Lee and Bill Murray were in it and I remember The Thing got in a fight with a Kaiju on Monster Island.

April Fools has already passed, user, alas.

Not even joking look it up.

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Jesus, I cannot believe they let people post dolphin porn on youtube these days! For shame, user!

>juvenile super-hero

>juvenile

Probably refers to the intended audience. In the program Dan Garrett is a rookie officer.

>Professor X
>Revenge on the Shadow
>The Hospital Murders
>The Reincarnation of Michael
>The Mark of the Bat
Goddammit, I had these on an old computer.

Good news, you can have them again!

Professor X at least is also on archive.org and they're all on youtube.

At least point to the right post

Yeah, that is strange. What would constitue a mature super hero show in those times, I wonder?

I recall a pretty good Rocketeer comic anthology that had a crossover story with The Shadow.

I remember that one but never read it. I should look it up.

the Moonstone stuff was pretty good... but the best are the Swedish made ones IMO. Idk where they're published in the states, but English translations were available in India when I was a wee lad.

Everything that Dynamite has been putting out with the old Pulp guys and public domain heroes

The Spider is pretty dope and Masks is fantastic

So far I have been enjoying the Shadow. I wish I could read more works. Hell it's pulps and noir that make me want to write comics.

Post links.

The Pirate Bay has everything, I believe. Demonoid used to have some decent ones but I doubt they have seeds anymore. There was at least one copy that came with all the pulps and comics, which was nice.

Do you remember the names of the authors?

Who /Domino Lady/ here?

There was even a recent radio show featuring her
youtube.com/watch?v=4pbC5w1fiWI&t=594s

>link to the PDFs
Sorry, I got these around a decade ago. No idea where they came from. I may post the one that Batman ripped the idea for the Joker from, though (maybe even properly converted to epub) if I can find time).

>recording links
I still have to organize my collection. Like the PDFs, these are from a decade ago. I need to make sure the titles and dates are all correct to be sure, but doing a file count, there's a discrepancy of about 20 recordings between my collection and OTR's, and I'm pretty sure I went through my folders for duplicates.

I'll see what I can do.

Are these threads always perpetuated by the same handful of geriatrics ?

25 here. I've always been a fan of old Hollywood and 1930-40 pop culture. The pulp heroes have a lurid charm about them. The prose is spotty but at its best is incredibly evocative.

because the rest of Sup Forums is too busy bitchig about samurai morty

at least the covers are pure gold

I won't be original and I say: Shadow, Doc Savage, The Spider, Green Hornet. There weren't really that many pulp characters, and as much as I like reading them from time to time, it's kinda obvious that there isn't many possibilities with them.

The best pulp comics were done by DC, and to some extent by Dynamite. Anything else was trash

YES

Get the Saga of Solomon Kane book Darkhorse put out. It collects all of the Kane backups from the Savage Sword of Conan books and a few others. it's as good as any of the adult Conan or pulp comics being released at the time. The writing is mostly Roy Thomas and most of the great 70's pulpy artists pop up with Chaykin probably doing the best work.

I recently read and dug Chaykin's Shadow miniseries. I think there's a lot of possibilities for the characters but removing them from their original context risks losing their specific appeal. Chaykin's run works because it looks and feels like a pulp story at its trashiest and without draconian censors breathing down his neck.

Update: the file discrepancies turned out to be mislabeling by whoever I got the recordings from back in the day. They all ended up being duplicates of other files, but some of them are a bit different from the ones that OTR has. I'll have to look into it more later.

>tfw I unironically love the Shadow movie even though I know it's a shit adaptation of the character

It's just so goddamn gorgeous.

wich conan comics should I check out?

I've been meaning to watch it along with the Rocketeer. The latter I saw as a kid but I barely remember it and had no idea it was based on a comic.

It's absolutely gorgeous. Russell Mulcahey doesn't make plain-looking films, even when they don't make much sense.

It's very obviously trying to get a slice of that Batman '89 pie, but if you accept that it's a lot of fun. John Lone plays an 11/10 villain and there's some pretty good setpieces.

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Rocketeer is definitely much better. It's one of the few genuinely great films starring comic characters.

The Shadow movie isn't really bad, it's an earnest attempt to capitalize on the brief pulp resurgence and the popularity of Batman 89. It's fun and it doesn't take itself too seriously and that's all fine for a superhero movie. I think the main problem is that the movie as a whole is way too clumsy, and being corny and silly has never been The Shadow's thing, it's always worked better as Batman's shtick.
I like Alec Baldwin but, although I think he was great at playing Lamont Cranston, it's just impossible to take him seriously in that costume with that fake ass prosthetic schnoz.

I did like some of it's concepts, like Margo also having psychic abilities which gives her and The Shadow a stronger connection (and gives her more of a purpose). It had gorgeous set-design and some pretty creative moments. And I really liked that they paid tribute to Orson Welles via a Lady From Shanghai reference in the finale.

It's a damn shame Orson Welles never got to make his own The Shadow movie. Just imagine what it could have been,

There are some fantastic performances in those radio shows. Like the guy about to be put into the chair. The soldier who is killing jury members, and a plethora of others.

I unironically loved The Rocketeer movie.

The Spider is available on ebook and on audio books from radioactive.com. They sell ebook and audio books of dozens of old pulps as well as every print version still available.

If you liked Dynamite's CAPES Team-Up between old pulp heroes, the original story of the Black Empire was a three part Spider novel. Outside of a paid ad for the Spider vs the Empire State book, Dynamite offered no credit to the original author of that story.

Norvell Page took over the monthly Spider pulps with issue #4. It was a cheap Shadow knock off for four issues and then Page entered the picture and turned into into the most exciting and violent pulp on the stands. It was like going from Miss Marple to Michael Bay. Imagine a Michael Bay movie. On cocaine. After drinking a gallon of Red Bull. Page did that every month. He was also a raving nut who would act out his scenes with the rest of the publishers staff, often wearing the Spider's Cape and using a yard stick as a sword, jumping from desk to desk. He managed to bottle that insanity into prose every month.

Robert E Howard is another author to track down. He wrote shockingly little Conan books. Mostly short stories and poems. In his brief thirty years on this Earth he managed to write pulp in every genre imaginable. From Western to boxing. He never stopped writing. His work is pure energy.

Sadly, he never saw how huge Conan became under Marvel Comics. Even the novels paled by comparison to those 70s Marvel sales. His is only family was a mother. When she died, he left the hospital and killed himself.

Sham Sam Raimi's Shadow never came together. His Spider-Man movies and Darkman have that pulpy tone

Does anyone else notice how similar Matt Wagner's writing is for Sandman Mystery Theatre and Trinity?

Do you think there is a chance for pulp heroes to be popular again ??
Would you guys like a cinematic universe with them ?
Is there even a space for them anymore, in today's culture ?

how many times are the same handful of mummies gonna make this thread? there is nothing to talk about. these characters peaked over 75 years ago if not more. even if they did influence superheroes they influenced them so long ago it's not relevant any more. fucking stop living in the past man.

Could you apply the same reasoning to books? Why read Asimov when they just rebooted Ghost in the shell amirite, hes not relevant anymore

Well a ton of them are in public domain so if the slightest hint that they're profitable is seen we're gonna get a flood.

what's the current version of pulps? it used to be those 90s syndicated action shows

I personally loved The Lone Ranger and The Legend of Tarzan, but we all know how they were received. I don't really think there will be a big boom or cinematic universe, but I'm just happy with a steady stream of comics and to get the occasional under-performing movie.
I fucking hated The Green Hornet.

Japanese light novels.

Asimov's works are timeless works of science fiction.
These are literally pulp fiction, the equivalent of reality TV, they are dispensable entertainment not meant to stand the test of time.