EDGE OF VENOMVERSE #2 (of 5) CHRISTOPHER HASTINGS (w) • IRENE STRYCHALSKI (a) Cover by FRANCESCO MATTINA Variant Cover by RON LIM A PINK NIGHTMARE! The wall-breaking wunderkind we call Gwenpool gets ahold of the VENOM SYMBIOTE and turns into a sword-slinging, web-swinging master of disaster! But it won’t all be fun and games when Gwenpool comes across something huge… something that will directly lead to the Venom storyline of 2017! 32 PGS./Rated T+ …$3.99
EDGE OF VENOMVERSE #3 (of 5) SIMON SPURRIER (w) • TIGH WALKER (a) Cover by FRANCESCO MATTINA Variant Cover by RON LIM THE SYMBIOTIC SPIRIT OF VENGEANCE! Robbie Reyes was just an average, ordinary super hero with a flaming skull… …right up until he found himself bonded with a dangerous extraterrestrial symbiote! Don’t miss the first daring drive of the HOST RIDER! 32 PGS./Rated T+ …$3.99
These sound like some cool one shots. Anyone have the solicits for previous issues?
Mason Robinson
>Robbie Reyes >Spirit of Vengeance Come on, Spurrier! I know it's an AU, but that's not an excuse.
Isaac Wilson
Is it happening? Leave it to Hastings to think of that pun.
Ethan Young
>IRENE STRYCHALSKI (a) Even AU Gwen gets that low tier amateur art
Easton Perry
Correction, Spurrier.
Mason Gonzalez
>Hastings Gwenpool Dammit, now I'm going to have to buy this whole series for one issue so I don't look like a waifufag.
Jason Green
oh, wait, I mistook her for the one who did the Blade story Strychalski is... I won't say good, but acceptable
Carson Davis
>Hastings is writing the Gwenpool issue Oh thank God
>Spurrier is writing the Robbie issue Huh. Is this the first book Spurrier has done for Marvel since his X-force ended?
Samuel Perry
she can draw better than Gurihiru. But her faces are weird
Easton Parker
>gwenpool in an event >spawn rider aha
Adrian Sanchez
Why not releasing it as Edge of Venomverse: Gwenpool #1, Ghost Rider #1? It's like marvel suddenly changed its policy
Brandon Cooper
everyone already knows
Jaxson Brooks
Fuck yes, the return of Venom Rider.
Joseph Price
So what do you think the other two Edge of Venom verse one shots are gonna be about before the main event starts?
I hope we get a Poison one and an Agent Venom one
Bentley Powell
Because then people would just pick and choose based off of the character. This way, they can get people to buy all 5 issues to complete the set.
Adrian Howard
WE'LL SEE HOW THAT WORKS! I smell an edge of failure
Leo Mitchell
They're all pulling from the Venomized Variants, so it'll probably be whatever the two most popular ones of those were outside of X-23/Gwenpool/Robbie.
Noah Gomez
Because no one but the obese Gwenpool fans would buy it.
Hunter Cook
shots are fired
Leo Lee
they can't penetrate our girth
Noah Sullivan
Because of the thickness of your skulls, or because of aforementioned obesity?
Jackson Gonzalez
Wait, is Venom the main book and Edge of Venomverse one-shots?
Nathaniel Garcia
Still not as awesome as Ross.
WE SMASH FOR VENGEANCE!!!
Andrew Young
They did the exact same thing with Edge of Spider-verse. It wasn't Spider-Gwen #1, it was Edge of Spider-verse #2
Chase Bell
Hmm... thanks for explanation. That makes sense
Andrew Butler
Amadeus Cho and Moon Knight
Aaron Carter
Edge of Venomverse is a mini collecting 5 one-shots that'll lead into the Venomverse event. They did the same thing with Edge of Spider-verse -> Spider-verse.
Aaron Peterson
Yes, Venom is the main book, but this is a lead up to the edge of venom verse that will supposedly happen in the main book.
The way that it worked for Edge of SPider-verse was that there were 5 one shots, one about Spider-Man Noir, Spider-Gwen, Aaron Aikman, Patton Parnel, and SP//DR. Then the main event happened in ASM while there were more one shots and minis surrounding it, like tales from the Spider-verse and whatnot
William Torres
wait a minute, it's going to be this, venom series, and another mini? for fuck sake they really want to milk that edd
David Watson
We don't know if there is gonna be another mini, that's purely just my own speculation on what happened with Spider-verse. For now all we know is about this 5 issue mini and the main event in the Venom book.
Mason Hill
well, what you say makes sense. I guess that it'll depend on the success. was spider-verse selling good?
James Wood
>was spider-verse selling good? Yes. Otherwise they wouldn't be doing this in the first place.
Noah Green
I was just hoping because Poison was on the announcement poster, and like Spider-Man Noir, was an already established character from the multiverse.
Though I'd like to see She-Venom too.
but if we're purely going off the variant covers, Venompool probably has a good chance to be in one issue, but I wonder who else they're gonna do. I'd love to see the Captain Marvel or Man-Thing Venom
Alexander Long
I think it'll be Captain Marvel and Kingpin.
Kevin Hill
Yeah, from what I can recall, Spider-verse sold extremely well. People love multiverse shenanigans. Me included. And I love symbiotes, so I'm absolutely gonna be picking these up.
Noah Wilson
I thought that it was nightcrawler at first Then phoenix. Then I've read the filename
Austin Wilson
Jean Grey is also getting some Venom variants though
Nolan Rogers
>People love multiverse shenanigans
You're damn right. Bring back Exiles!
Caleb Martinez
This already sounds better than Edge of Spider-Verse.
Andrew Robinson
>Everyone is Venom Call it a hunch, but I have this feeling that marvel is overdoing it
Anthony Green
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Ryan Hernandez
They're X-Men-related, so probably nope. But Axiles....
isn't fire lethal to symbiotes?
Grayson Ward
I mean, if it's the same concept but without the stupid inheritors, I'm down for it. I'd still argue that Spider-verse was a great concept, but it was ruined by Slott's writing and turning an intimidating villain like Morlun and turning him into a whiny family of vampires.
Hunter Harris
>Event >Focuses on a single character and alternate realities I bet you thought Clone Conspiracy and Superman Reborn and Monster Men were events too.
Adrian Myers
You think?
Adrian Taylor
Just a reminder that in Minimum Carnage we found out symbiotes can completely unravel the fabric of the multiverse. I wonder if the big bad from this will be a symbiote doing just that.
Daniel Garcia
>isn't fire lethal to symbiotes? Well, yes, but for Ghost Rider I know it works different since hellfire isn't the same as normal fire. Don't know about Phoenix fire though. Is it just pyrokinesis or is it special cosmic fire?
Hudson Moore
Hm.... Isn't Batman in DC? That marvel! They venomize everything, even competition.
Henry Martinez
Not really.
For one, all of these stories are of existing heroes bonding with the regular old Venom instead of (mostly) original characters possessed by multiversal reimaginings of the symbiote.
I feel like, save for maybe Gwenpool, that's going to lead to each story following roughly the same beat of each hero reenacting Spider-man's black suit storyline.
Aiden Allen
It's "we don't need no water, let the motherfucker burn"-tier fire
Dylan Foster
>dangerous extraterrestrial symbiote I thought the Klyntar were a peaceful loving race that never did nuffing?
Grayson Scott
It's psionic fire, not literal fire. Basically mental energy that just looks like fire, like how Psylocke's psionic knife doesn't actually cut stuff like a regular knife, it's just a physical manifestation of her psychic powers.
Tyler Carter
Yeah, shouldn't they all have that spider symbol on them too?
Levi Lopez
We better get Venom Carol then.
Jackson Reed
My bet is that it has something to do with this dropped plot point of Costa's in Web Warriors, since he''s writing Venom too.
Kayden Howard
>Not having teeth sprout out the open part of Gwen's mask.
Missed opportunity
Henry Parker
she's for waifufags, we don't want them disgusted
Thomas Perry
Well, the actual Gwenpool variant looked like this
Robert Flores
I could see that happening, man this comic could have been so much better if they didn't focus so much on Gwen and Ham and had better art work
Chase Gomez
I like how Gewn looks like Cletus here.
Parker Baker
I hope they retcon Bendis's shit.
Owen Barnes
this
Jace Foster
Literally the Pink Psycho Ranger!
Eli Garcia
Absolutely. I didn't hate Web warriors, but it was painfully mediocre, and they wasted so much time with Gwen and Ham. Gwen has her own book for god sakes. And then they put so much focus on the Electros. Like, more than half the series was about them. Give me more multiverse fun.
Ryan Watson
>ordinary super hero with a flaming skull What about the Symbiote's weakness to fire? Or does hellfire not count?
Daniel Turner
I liked the electros, I felt that Spider-Verse was lacking in alternate versions of Spider-rogues, but I agree that there didn't need to be so much focus on them, I honestly wanted to see more of Mayday and Noir.
John Torres
I'm just glad we don't have to deal with Sasuke Uchiha anymore.
Jonathan Wilson
The weaknesses are probably different in alternate realities, also, Carnage lost most of his weaknesses after he was powered up by the old god, it's easily possible that the presence of the spirit of vengeance (if that's even what this version is) negates the vulnerability to fire.
Logan Miller
...
Brayden Martin
see hellfire doesn't work the same on symbiotes, and neither does the penance stare
Joshua Richardson
>Though I'd like to see She-Venom too. I want this too. She is on the poster (seen here: ). So fingers crossed!
Camden Harris
I wish someone would draw a full body shot of She-Venom in the animated series style.
Kevin Cruz
If only
Gavin Reyes
>I'd still argue that Spider-verse was a great concept, but it was ruined by Slott's writing
And I would agree. The sales pitch was amazing. But Slott couldn't deliver the goods. Which is generally the case for any 'event' he writes.
The story was done better in the final two episodes of the 90s animated series.
Dylan Cooper
I honestly liked Spider Island, but maybe that's just me. But yeah, I've been disappointed by every single other big event he's done.
Oliver Robinson
Please drawfags?
Andrew Flores
Spider-Island wasn't much of an event, at least in the original plans
It's just that it was like ten times better than Fear Itself(it took me a few seconds to actually remember it)
Aiden Cruz
Do solicits come out today?
Juan Morgan
Spider-Island was better than Spider-Verse because it was actually celebrating how awesome Spider-Man is (instead of Slott showing how much he hates Peter by systematically murdering him in almost every AU and having 616 Peter get showed up by Slott's own OCs at every conceivable opportunity).
Ethan Baker
Slott didn't really start to go downhill until Alpha. You can tell that Dying Wish was his last idea.
Chase Wood
We should get full solicits next week I think
We'll probably get a few small previews throughout this week
Kevin Nelson
Naw, Spider-Island was one of the last things Slott did that I enjoyed. That moment where Peter Parker calls for the new yorkers to help fight off the spider-posers was great
Zachary Richardson
I talked to Slott recently at a con, and actually had a pretty good chat with him. Got him to sign all my issues of New Ways to Die, and thanked him for creating Anti-Venom, and also some stuff for Agent Venom.
It was cool learning that ends of the earth was originally supposed to star Black Cat and Agent Venom beside Spider-Man rather than Silver Sable and Black Widow.
I miss good Slott stories. What happened? Did he let the success of Superior go to his head?
Jason Young
"Dead" Felicia would have been a better fate than crime boss Felicia.
Logan Gray
>would have had Agent Venom and Black Cat >black cat would have drowned >Sable would have been the one that Spock punches in the face and does a heel turn >Cat would have just recently come back in ASM Fuck this gay earth..
Liam Barnes
This. But the writing in Spider-Island was pretty bad (Slott writes everyone with pretty much the same voice, for example. I question if he even realizes that Peter and Kaine have different personalities). And fuck the Ramos artwork. Shit was hideous.
David Rivera
>It was cool learning that ends of the earth was originally supposed to star Black Cat and Agent Venom beside Spider-Man rather than Silver Sable and Black Widow. We already knew that. Did he ever explain why he changed that? I get using Silver Sable, but why the fuck would he use Black Widow instead of an actual Spider-Man character?
Elijah Allen
>And fuck the Ramos artwork. Shit was hideous. THANK YOU
It boggles my mind that people praise that man. Not to mention at the con I went to he was one of the only people charging for signatures. What an asshole.
Ryder Fisher
Eh, I don't really mind Ramos as much as others do, yeah his art work usually sucks, but I loved his Spider-Jane. As for the writing, yeah Slott has always had that problem, but that very end bit, where Kaine has to dress up in the Spider-Man red and blue and pose as spidey and how much he hated it was pretty good.
Nathan Price
How does this even work without affecting the symbiote?
Nolan Harris
>I miss good Slott stories. What happened? Did he let the success of Superior go to his head?
He cracked under the pressure of having to write a big book. Seriously, none of Slott's Spider-Man stories are especially great. His stuff during BND was probably his least offensive and even that was pretty meh. Guys like Zeb Wells, Joe Kelly and even Mark Waid were putting out way, way better Spidey stories at the time. Hell, even Marc Guggenheim had some gems (the Raptor story, for example, was a better Ben Reilly story than anything Slott ever did in Clone Conspiracy).
Slott hasn't put out an actually good book since he was doing The Initiative.
Camden Cox
MCU synergy
Remember in that arc the Sinister SiX beat the movie Avengers
Dominic Howard
>It boggles my mind that people praise that man. I'm right there beside you, user. I cannot even fathom why people like his work. He is one of the worst artists in the business right now.
>Not to mention at the con I went to he was one of the only people charging for signatures. What an asshole. I mean, that's not uncommon at cons, but if the vast majority of artists at the con aren't, you shouldn't be either. It makes the artist who is charging look pretty fucking arrogant.
Levi Diaz
>but I loved his Spider-Jane. I assume you're referring to when she got spider powers during Spider-Island? Common user, she looked hideous, just like the rest of the book.
Andrew King
Eh, it's all personal preference, would I want Ramos to be doing the artwork on my favorite books? Nope. would I be turned off from them if he was? Nope. I'm going to sit here and tell you other anons that you're wrong and you just don't understand, I'm going to respect your opinion while holding onto my own, even if they clash with the majority.
Hunter Robinson
Nah, he explained that Felicia was busy in Daredevil at the time, and Agent Venom was busy in Circle of Four, and he didn't want to take them outta that.
David Hughes
Because a character can't be in 2 stories at once?
Michael Fisher
>>I miss good Slott stories. What happened? Did he let the success of Superior go to his head? I suspect he's under bad Editors.
He has good ideas, but he's probably one of those writers who need an Editor to keep them straight