Orange county choppers

who was in the wrong?

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Only the people who actually watch this crappy pap.

GET this bike done.

Can someone give me the quick rundown?

Paul Sr and Paul Jr had a big blow out fight that led to Sr. firing Jr who was quitting(don't remember why.) They didn't talk for a few years or something and then Jr made his own bike customization company and hired old employees that had been fired as well. Blah blah they reconciled after a couple years of this shit

I must have been thinking of the gunsmith people. I could have sworn there was pedoshit involved.

I watched this all the time growing up, I remember the feud and every thing, the dad was always pissed at his son for some reason or another.

Yeah Idk the name of that show but the dad molested the daughter maybe which didn't come out until after the fact and then got busted with kiddie porn or something

Paul Sr did nothing wrong

I watched it whenever I had seen it on. Sadly I'll partake in anything that has to do with fabrication, automotive work, or metal smithing like OCC, Gas Monkey, etc. Sometimes you'll get a nice episode of actual drama with real consequences in these shows

gunsmith dad is a pedophile i think i know what you are referring to
>mfw the daughter ditched her husband for a black guy
he proposed on the show too

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sons_of_Guns

Wait, seriously?
>look it up

What the FUUCKKK

>On August 27, 2014, the series was abruptly cancelled after it was revealed that child endangerment, child rape, and abuse charges were brought against Will Hayden.[17] "Given the serious and horrific nature of the charges against Will Hayden, we have decided to halt further production of 'Sons of Guns' and cancel the series," a Discovery Channel rep told TMZ.[18] After the announcement, the Discovery channel website was "scrubbed" of information about the show.[19] In September Hayden's eldest daughter, business partner, and 'Sons of Guns' co-star, Stephanie Hayden, changed her claims from that of defending her father to accusing him of also raping and abusing her as a child.[20]

>Since the cancellation of the show, Kris Ford was arrested on child abuse charges and for assault on a minor. Stephanie Hayden-Ford, who is the mother of the child from a previous relationship, was also arrested for assault charges on Friday October 17, 2014. Bail was set at $25,000 each according to WWL,[21] which was paid and the pair was released from jail.[22]

>On April 7, 2017, a court in East Baton Rouge Parish, Louisiana, convicted Will Hayden on two counts of aggravated rape and one count of forcible rape. The former charges carry a mandatory sentence of life in prison; his sentencing is scheduled for May 11, 2017.[23]

>On May 11th, 2017, Hayden was sentenced to two life sentences to be served concurrently plus 40 years.

So many of these type of shows popped up around the same time OCC too, there were several car shop ones as well. I specifically reemember an episode where they made a bike that was commemorating 9/11 firefighters or something like that.

damn

I looked into it, and the Kris and Stephanie child abuse thing is from spanking their kid with a belt, not sexual

>On May 11th, 2017, Hayden was sentenced to two life sentences to be served concurrently plus 40 years

He's gonna be in there a LONG time

>yfw he starts smithing ghetto prison guns for the inmates

Someone post the webm

/k/ in a nutshell

wait,

>based on the statements of the victim.
>nothing else

Are you fucking kidding me with this? Three life sentences on the word of a woman alone??

You might not be getting the full scope of the case from someone's copy pasted wikipedia article

I'm pretty sure even Louisiana does a more thorough investigation of that, i'm just copypastaing from Wikipedia

I mean, they PROBABLY found his fucking semen in someone

no, what makes it /k/ in a nutshell is the fact that Hayden was never actually licensed to produce and sell firearms, he was using the licence of the senior gunsmith who left the show and opened his own shop. Plus that time he "lost" some automatic weapons.

No, i've checked several articles now.

All they convicted him on was hearsay. No physical evidence of any kind could have been provided because it happened decades ago.

Is this justice? A woman says something and nobody is brave enough to say that she may be lying? he can't even get an appeal.

God help us all.

>they convicted him on three life sentences on hearsay

I don't believe you.

>talked to kids when i was younger

Oh god, i'm going to prison if i ever become famous.

It was this year.

Nobody cares about evidence. All they care is "woman accuses X, therefore X is a serial rapist"

Zero. None. Three Life Sentences because women said you did things.

This is terrifying.

welcome to the world of being a male, when one lie from a woman can destroy you

>be gun person
>liberals hate you
>make up stories
>three life sentences

>nobody anywhere will ever come to your aid because of the accusation of child rape

No wonder the liberals throw that out whenever they don't like someone.

I want to point out one of the women accusing him was HIS OWN FUCKING DAUGHTER.

And, yes, testimony is admissible evidence in court.

>Hayden said that the allegations are false and were made in retaliation by a vengeful ex-girlfriend, the 12-year-old girl's mother.

>He was subsequently charged with rape of a child based on the statements of the victim.

>based on the statements of the victim.
>based on the statements of the victim.
>based on the statements of the victim.
>based on the statements of the victim.

>step-daughter
>alleges
>life sentence
>x3

>Rebecca Ramsey, who said she trusted and cared deeply for Hayden, told an East Baton Rouge Parish jury of six women and six men, and one female alternate juror, that she walked into Hayden's home on that August 2014 afternoon to find what appeared to be an unclothed Hayden leaning over a preteen girl seated on a couch and kissing her intimately with his hands in her hair.

>"I couldn't believe he was doing this to her," a sobbing Ramsey said.

>Ramsey said she reported what she saw to the East Baton Rouge Parish Sheriff's Office the next morning and did not report to work. Afterward, she received online death threats and was essentially in protective custody for a while. Ramsey said she gained nothing from turning in her then-boss but "lost almost everything," including her many friends at Red Jacket Firearms, a Baton Rouge custom gun shop that served as the backdrop for the Discovery Channel "Sons of Guns" show from 2011 to 2014. The show was canceled amid his legal troubles.

>Hayden's court-appointed attorney, Bo Rougeou, asked the jury in his opening statement earlier Tuesday to put aside how they likely feel about Hayden and listen to the facts before making a determination.

>"Fame has two sides," Rougeou told the panel. "There's a target on your back."

>Prosecutor Sonya Cardia-Porter stressed to the jury that child sexual assault is a "crime of secrecy" and said it will be the jury's job to judge the credibility of the victims in the absence of DNA evidence.

>it cannot be overturned

>nobody would dare either way.

The Gulag has returned.

That gun show. Whatever it was called. Daughter was cute as fuck too

>women lie to get some broke as nigga thrown in jail because ???
>including his daughter

It's one thing if it's just the angry ex, but it was three seperate women, and with co-abberating witnesses.

Ehh.. they were both in the wrong pretty much. Sr. had a more of an old school militaristic style where he wanted everyone to show up promptly on time and just crank out bikes on a timely schedule, whereas Jr. was the laissez-faire artist who would never fully plan out his bike builds and instead choose to let himself get inspired as he worked. Two opposing work styles like that are bound to conflict.

The sad thing was how shitty and generic the OCC bikes were after Jr. left... it was painfully obvious that Jr. was about 90% of the talent at that place

>make up stories

PLEASE fuck off Sup Forums

You're literally defending a rapist without any knowledge of the case but a wiki article.

>It's one thing if it's just the angry ex, but it was three seperate women, and with co-abberating witnesses.

>we have no means of knowing how long they planned this

It does not matter how many different stories women make up, that's not evidence for a life sentence.

Show us the evidence other than hearsay, cunt.

You are literally calling him a rapist without any knowledge of the case besides a wiki article

You can tell he's a democrat.

They want to pull this same shit on everybody who challenges their power.

It should be a death sentence to bring false charges like this. Did anyone put them to the lie detector or any form of hard interrogation, or would that "shame the victim" bullshit prevent any possible application of justice?

>>It should be a death sentence to bring false charges like this

>get raped
>go to the police
>you cant prove it
>now you're getting killed as well

nice going

>Did anyone put them to the lie detector
Yes. Though I want to point out Lie Detectors are bogus.

The sentences are life because life sentence is mandatory for cases of rape. The alternative used to be the death penalty, but the supreme court ruled mandatory DP was unconstitutional

The issue lays with Louisiana state law, blame them, not some liberal bogeyman. Or are you going to claim fucking Louisiana is a blue state.

>be woman
>be mad at anyone
>lie
>they get locked up and the key is thrown away

Much better? Stupid cunt.

Of course it is, it's a nigger warren. They only vote for the people who keep them in chains.

And arguement discarded

Was Mikey /ourguy/?

Like you have ever been capable of challenging your convictions.

You raped me. Go to prison forever.

>no, i don't have to prove it, i'm a woman, we'd never, ever lie about anything ever.

are women the new jews?

youtube.com/watch?v=Y021WAdUlW8

Niggers are slaves. So if a black person willingly puts themselves into bondage by voting for a democrat and thus the welfare state, they are by definition a Nigger.

Have any witnesses, evidence putting us in the same area at the same time, illicit conversations, probable cause, or corroboration from several other victims?

If not time for your incel-mandated false accusation beheading.

>Have any witnesses

>pay people off
>"yeah i saw it"
Wew.

>evidence putting us in the same area at the same time
>put an hour of thought into it
>"yeah we were all there"
WEW

>illicit conversations
>i'm saying he said these things
>that's all that it should take
WEEEEEEEEW

>corroboration from several other victims?
>remember that guy who was mean to us? Lets send him up the river! Girl Power!

Just go fuck yourself. This is NOT justice.

Have you ever heard of Occam's razor? Maybe when women accuse men of rape it's because they were raped, not out of some cartoonish pettiness or because women think going through a rape trial is fun. Oh, but that would require women not being the poorly disguised demons that the fat manbaby handbook tells you they are, doesn't it? Nope, never mind, it's definitely all an orchestrated conspiracy.

>Maybe when women accuse men of rape it's because they were raped

Even a single case of a false accusation blows that out of the water. There are, in fact, countless examples.

>women should get extra rights in the court system because they're fragile snowflakes

At-fault divorces aren't bad enough? Just how many miles should i stay from a woman at all times to make sure i'm not able to be accused of rape and thrown in the gulag forever?

Have you ever been accused of a sex crime you didn't commit? You think it's fucking fun for the guy to lose everything even if he's exonerated?

bring this conversation back to based choppers

Sometimes there’s just a couple people in threads like this that I absolutely cannot believe exist. I’m not sure if it’s one guy or a couple that have been posting but it’s just fucking strange how they make the same argument over and over so angrily. Calm down, dude.

*kicks down door*

senior was in the right

jr was slacking off, surprised vinny worked for him

was a clip of him literally walking away leaving vinny to do all the work then senior gets mad at him for not working and he leaves again

also he broke off vinnys drill bit in the frame and fucking left it for him

Holy shit lol

Him pleading no contest is what fucked him over.

It doesn't matter. Family forgives.