Things I liked: >the whole movie being the resistance constantly being chased by the FO and slowly dwindling in size as it is picked off by FO fire >Holdo light speeding into the FO fleet was a powerful moment and well executed. >The force connection scenes between Rey and Kylo >Rey and Kylo vs Snoke’s guards in the throne room >Luke and Yoda bantering >Luke being a cheeky cunt
Things I didn’t like: >Leia force pulling herself to the ship after being blown out of space was ridiculous and dumb >Luke “fighting” Kylo as a force ghost was disappointing. Luke’s death was anticlimactic. >Canto Bight was just filler >DJ was under-utilised, basically a plot device >the kids were cheesy
Overall better than TFA. I was afraid it’d be overlong but it didn’t feel like it. I went in with too many expectations regarding how “emotional” it would be, but I didn’t get emotional once, except for Holdo’s sacrifice.
>Holdo light speeding into the FO fleet was a powerful moment and well executed. It's about fucking time they used a fucking warp missile. I've been waiting years to see this happen
Julian Lee
I agree with your pros and cons
But we really have to state how low the low points were
Everything with Snoke Rey and Kylo was great
Jace Carter
>great snokes lines were so fucking stupid
Gavin Collins
That scene was kino as fuck. And the silence afterwards was perfect.
I thought this was a great scene it was really nice seeing classic Yoda again
Michael Rivera
How would you have written them?
Gavin Thompson
The only thing good about this trilogy is genuinely Kylo Ren.
The rest is a total waste of time.
Nolan Ortiz
>A FUCKING PUPPET
Dominic Stewart
Snoke was shit desu. Basically a placeholder until Kylo takes over as the main villain. Pretty lazy writing I feel
Also, Poe’s mutiny felt awkward, probably because parts were cut.
I did like the flashbacks of a half-crazed Luke holding his green lightsaber over a young Kylo
The ending was shit. Literally “lookey here the rebellion is still here, because that stable boy no one cares about wants to be a jedi at some point in the future trilogy
Noah Gray
>Prequel fag wants shitty PS2 Yoda back
Andrew Myers
NotMonaco or whatever that fucking city was called was shit. Really killed the tempo of the film and didn't even look like something out of science fantasy.
It was straight up Monaco with space horses.
Jordan Russell
where did you watch it? im a bit slow here
Asher Powell
This. Although the fathier akshun sequence was alright I guess
The music wasn’t very memorable, which kinda surprised me.
However I did enjoy the visuals, it was kino overall
Kayden Taylor
>Rey and Kylo vs Snoke’s guards in the throne room
I loved that scene!
Elijah Garcia
shitty cgi is much better than a fucking puppet, they didn't even do a good job or improve it at all, looks exactly like the one from the old star movies. Jarring in such a new film.
Adrian Watson
holy shit that looks awful. reminds me of pic related
Luke Brown
I wanted to use that moment and yell something but I couldn't think of anything clever.
Brody Rogers
>twirling, twirling, TWIRLING towards victory
Ryder Baker
It looks worse than the old puppet, that’s the problem.
Logan Martin
London. 00:01 am opening screening. Really shitty, small screen at the old Odeon on Tottenham Court rd. some dumb schoolkids were getting drunk on wine behind me. The bitch behind me kept on putting her feet near my elbows. Before the screening she kept asking her bf who kylo was, what was a “snok”, basically she had no fucking idea about star wars yet still goes to the fucking opening night. Who the fuck does that. Also some lanklet in front of me wearing a douchey baseball cap blocked the lower portion of the screen. Really shit experience desu
Adam Parker
The sound from the 3d screening next door crept through during the silence, which totally ruined the emotion of the scene. Why don’t cinemas invest more in soundproofing ffs
Justin Thompson
In the real canon this doesn't work because getting too close to large objects when going into hyperspace pulls you out of it.
Carter Rivera
how did luke die??
Gavin Butler
>the whole movie being the resistance constantly being chased by the FO and slowly dwindling in size as it is picked off by FO fire
So like Empire Strikes Back with the Empire chasing the Millenium Falcon...
>Holdo light speeding into the FO fleet was a powerful moment and well executed.
So like how the Millenium Falcon light sped in Empire...
>The force connection scenes between Rey and Kylo
So like Luke and Anakin in Empire...
>Rey and Kylo vs Snoke’s guards in the throne room
So like Leia and Lando against the Stormtroopers in Empire...
>Luke and Yoda bantering
So like Luke and Yoda in Empire...
>Luke being a cheeky cunt
So like Luke in Empire...
Bravo Rian
Christopher Ward
THIS IS WHY YOU PROTECT YOUR FUCKING SOURCE MATERIAL LIKE THE TOLKIEN ESTATE.
YOU FUCKING DID THIS GEORGE, YOU IDIOTIC FUCK FACE. YOU LET THEM DEFILE YOUR CHILD AFTER YOU RAPED HER.
Christopher Stewart
He fades away on a rock.
Thomas Rodriguez
He said "Smell yah later, kid" and than inexplicably disappeared
Eli Scott
Physical exertion from projecting a force ghost while still being alive, also having achieved his goal of restoring balance in the force by teaching Rey about failure and she turning out to be a jedi instead of a sith
He watches the double sunset on achro and then disappears
Jacob Reyes
wait what the fuck? does he even get hurt or does he die of natural causes?
Henry Perez
>large objects i'm fairly certain it's actually large objects that have a gravitational pull. not just large objects.
Adam Lee
>runnimg all the way across your opponent with your back turned after hitting their weapon once what the fuck
Evan King
kill me with a blunt hammer
Michael Anderson
The strain of projecting a force ghost half way across the Galaxy. He didn't die though, he Kenobi'd. More powerful than you can possibly imagine now.
Colton Gray
literally doesn't and cgi has gotten a lot better since then
Matthew Morgan
It's basically what said. He got tired and died watching the sunset on his rock.
Juan Williams
It gets worse.
Gavin Powell
Tell us more about the Luke premeditating killing Kylo
Sebastian Bailey
BADASS
Oliver Wilson
Luke fading away into the sunset was kino imo. And he's definitely not 'dead' in a conventional sense, just given himself over to the force.
I'm really happy with the way the jedi vs sith or light vs darkness dichotomy was subverted here, it gave the SW movie lore a push I was waiting for. Luke was great and didn't just feel like Mark Hamil saying lines but like it was the actual character, only broken and defeated.
of course we won't actually be able to discuss this movie on here because like fucking clockwork Sup Forums will hate it for being too different and ruining star wars
Brody Cook
>So like Empire Strikes Back with the Empire chasing the Millenium Falcon... for the entire movie? >So like how the Millenium Falcon light sped in Empire... yup exactly like that scene where Han and Chewie sacrifice themselves to kamikaze the falcon into the fleet rupturing all the star destroyers and suiciding hand and chewie >So like Luke and Anakin in Empire... implying Anakin and not Vader. >So like Leia and Lando against the Stormtroopers in Empire... yup exactly like that. The stormtroopers pulled out their vibro blades and fought two lightsaber weilding jedi. exactly the same as kylo and rey in this film. >luke was also in empire and therefor this movie is a copy+paste you are a dumb faggot, don't go and watch the movie, you haven't seen it, you wont. you're just a dumb faggot redditor that sees some minor outrage and jumps on to the bandwagon. but gues what this movie didn't copy empire so you look like a massive fuckhead lol retard have sex
Charles Martin
The Hobbit 1,2 and 3
Michael Long
Please tell me this isn't actual footage...this is a blooper reel, right??? I just bought tickets. Fuck!!!!!
Adrian Gutierrez
"I can't see a thing in this helmet!"
Connor Gray
>you are a dumb faggot, don't go and watch the movie, you haven't seen it, you wont. you're just a dumb faggot redditor that sees some minor outrage and jumps on to the bandwagon. but gues what this movie didn't copy empire so you look like a massive fuckhead lol retard have sex
This is genuine, isn't it? Jesus christ, Sup Forums is quite literally being invaded with low-IQ, reactionary, hypersensitive Star Wars redditors.
Gabriel Rivera
Luke goes to Kylo in his sleep and searches Kylo's mind. he see's that Snoke has already turned him to the darkside and what Luke see's scares him enough to draw his lightsaber.
>In Kylo's mind he's seeing his teacher standing over him with his lightsaber drawn about to kill him
>In Luke's mind he in a moment of fear and bad judgement drew his sword but soon after realized he was making a huge mistake
basically by the time Luke is like "nvm not good idea" Kylo's already awoken and seen his master turn on him.
Bentley Williams
I didn’t see the movie yet but I saw the clip of Yoda. If force ghosts can now summon lighting and make physical contact with people I don’t see the difference if Luke is dead or not.
James Jackson
Is thsi cunt for real? FUCK ME DEAD Sup Forums is literally filled with soyboy faggots that think their IQ levels are important and not their T-levels. Such a little frail bugman soi boi faggot he gets mad when ANOTHER user is told to have sex. fucking virgin lmao.
Leo Rodriguez
Knights of Ren BTFO
Charles Phillips
are you having a stroke?
Easton Miller
How did Snoke and Kylo meet and how did Snoje influence him?
Henry Howard
Not explained lol. Also no knights of ren
Also Rey’s parents are drunkards who sold her off, unless that was also Snoke’s mind tricks and therefore isn’t true
Joseph Richardson
Not him, but that is just some lazy writing.
Hudson Flores
Knights of ren were the imperial guards, they're dead.
Brody Moore
Lukes character is ruined because it turns out the reason Kylo "turned" was because luke was about to execute him in his sleep due to luke fearing a prophecy. Same thing Vader did
Kylo kills snoke. Nothing special about him either. Rey and Kylo get together. It's like space twilight
Rey is literally the daughter of drunk junkies who are nothing special that sold her for alcohol.
Yoda shows up Luke is killed The black guy and ugly asian get together
Owen Lee
the basically filming Gallen Marek with everything reversed. >woman instead of man >exclusively light user to moderately dark user instead of vice versa its obvious the mouse is capitalizing Gallen popularity and y'all still buying it
Grayson Robinson
You mean the Praetorian guard? How are you so sure? The knights of ren were just the students Kylo took with him to slay the other students at Luke’s jedi camp. Also they have very differenr weapons from the ones used by the Praetorian guard. One of the knights even has a blaster iirc
Levi Martin
Doesn't say. There'es only really 1 scene where it is briefly touched on that Snoke had manipulated/planted seeds in the mind of a young Kylo. Basically any mysteries surrounding Snoke are redundant now.
Weirdest thing imo, is the Knights of Ren are nowhere to be seen this film and there is a strange mention from Luke that after Kylo went ape shit (cause Luke turned on him) he took some students of the temple with him and killed every student before burning it down and leaving with some of the jedi being taken with him. Now i think it's safe to say they're likely the knights of ren...
But this is the weird part, after all is said and don in this movie, you still have this weird plot line. The general idea of what happened is
>Luke almost turns on Kylo >Kylo see's this and fears for his life and attacks Luke like what happens next? Kylo has like 0 reason to go and kill all the jedi. His problems are with Luke. like what the fuck happened? >omg luke's an ass hole i'll kill all his students i mean ok whatever, doesn't really fit that well but whatever. >hey these guys trust me over Luke maybe if I show/tell them they'll join me makes more sense. clash of ideals/morals/opinions turns into a lightsaber clash. people loyal to Luke and don't believe he would attack a student vs Kylo and his trustworthy friends or whatever.
just like wtf happens now? Are the Knights of Ren all force users and originally students of Luke?
is there 12 random cunt jedi roaming the universe?
is Kylo actually on the dark side? (apart from han killing) like i guess we can assume he did the anakin thing and snoke said "Oh boy luke will turn on u i know it" and it happened so Kylo immediately ran to Snoke?
why was there so much buildup and production in Snoke's attire, backstory from being in unexplored parts of the galaxy, equipment, his black kyber crystal ring etc etc etc. was he literally a plot device for 1 and a half movies?
Henry Lewis
doesn't matter if you're also going super fast on non-lightspeed engines
Julian Edwards
What I'm basing it on is that there were 6 knights of ren and 6 of those imperial guards. They all use different weaponry and have a medieval armour motif going on.
If you think about it the knights of Ren would defs be guarding Snoke. They are also a pretty difficult obstacle for Kylo and Rey.
Carter Roberts
Also should add that the students would have grabbed what available weaponry was at the jedi temple so thats why that blaster is there.
The question is where did the red lightsaber come from?
Thomas Jones
JJ created a mess that can only be inherited and unfucked to some extent with patchwork and plotholes. The point is, they’re making it up as they go along.
The knights of ren used a variety of crude weapons, not one used lightsabers (remember that shot from tfa?). So they were probably less talented than Kylo and thus not really sith
Jackson Thomas
not the guy u quoted but have seen the movie. While I think what you said makes sense, I also beleive it doesn't make sense because (if we assume the knights of ren are the 12 jedi then Kylo didn't kill... wouldn't they be loyal to Kylo over Snoke?
can easily be explained as "snoke taught them too" but I don't know seems kinda just fucked.
Ayden Williams
Ren built it himself, using a cracked Kyber crystal probably provided by Snoke.
What color will they choose for Rey’s new lightsaber in XI? I’d go for yellow
Jordan Brown
yeah this whole director shit seems like JJ was like "whew yay! stahhh-woz!! my idea will be brilliant!!" then he turned to the fucken dark side after Riaan was like "nobody cares about Snoke lets kill him off" so he's back on directing 9 and will bring Snoke back to life or some shit i can almost fuck my life star wars is fucked
Thomas Miller
he killed the jedi because his experience with luke almost killing him turned him to the dark side further. sith don't like jedis so he killed the students, because they're on the other side, same reason luke was willing to kill kylo.
Levi Evans
whatever happened to that "new hue of lightsaber" or whatever that would be shown in this movie? was literally every cast and crew interview + visual dictionary + merchandising just misdirection shit?
Cameron Garcia
But Luke said he didn't kill all of them and took some under his wing.
Also, wouldn't it be more rational for Kylo to assume Luke has turned to the darkside? as opposed to going "ok sith are right im sith now"? I get Snoke already planted the seed, but to me it just seems more reasonable. Like Anakin in ep 3, he doesn't just become a sith. his first reaction is to condemn the jedi and say they're evil (denying that he himself is evil)
Jonathan Ortiz
Probably misinterpretation.
Unless I missed something. Or unless the shot of the kyber crystal in Rey’s craked sword suggests that her new lightsaber will be white? I thought it was just dead and lifeless
Connor Bennett
>it's not perfect >gives it a score of 100
what the shit? fuck this gay earth.
Chase Foster
it is real canon you fuckwit
Kayden Scott
Spoilers
Thing I don't get is after Snoke dies why does Kylo Ren have any reason to go after the rebels or his mother? Snoke wanted absolute control and Kylo just wanted to improve his powers but also to be close with Rey so why does he continue following Snokes orders after the cunts dead.